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Very nice review Hayek. I have read the first impressions of many new EV purchases by fellow members but this was very nicely explained, especially the charger installation part, which will help future owners like us. By society, do you mean a large multi tower apartment group? Like those LIC quarters blocks.
Great review and I am must say that you have built a really nice garage! Eagerly waiting for your new purchase next year as its gonna be quite interesting to see what's gonna replace X3 (unless you have already made up your mind).
Thanks for the illuminating review. I think, thanks to this review, I might finally have a dream car.
I have always wondered how people have such a clear idea of what their "dream car" is. I have never really had one.
So my dreams also have to have some nexus with reality. Do I want a… BMW 3 series having driven a 320d F30 extensively on the highways and within the city? Sure, it is a gem to drive but it suffers from the low ground clearance vice, so no. How about an X3 or a Merc AMG of some sort? They're mostly really cool cars but I wouldn’t be okay with the ownership experience. And that’s not because of cost (even though I certainly can't afford those cars at this point). It’s because of the time and the headache popularly (but not without exception) associated with German ownership. This is one reason why I picked (bet on) the less capable XUV300 TurboSport for myself over the Taigun GT/ GT+. I also insured myself from the headaches by paying Wheels Wisdom. And beyond cars like these, which make driving fun, I don’t really want to own anything else. I'd love to drive everything, but not own too much.
For the same reasons of practicality, my dreams have no patience to consider an Aventador or something like that which I can’t drive for more than 200 metres in Bengaluru without scraping something underneath. Plus, what will I do with that handling and power and torque? How often will I use it? My dream car must be a car I get to enjoy, not one I admire in the garage. My dream car has to be my daily driver, or at least a frequently used second car.
This Ioniq 5 (and the EV6) is the first car I’ve looked at and thought: Wow, I’d love to have that car. I particularly like how they have gently gotten away from templatised designs/ silhouettes. It is presently certainly out of my reach, but as dream cars go, this one smells like it mightn't be entirely confined to my dreams in the future.
Great review. Eagerly waiting for the newer version to be launched in India. The current version has a smaller battery than the global version (72 vs 77), misses out on the HUD, and doesn't have the heat pump (if someone can confirm) for the battery.
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Originally Posted by siren373
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Great review. Eagerly waiting for the newer version to be launched in India. The current version has a smaller battery than the global version (72 vs 77), misses out on the HUD, and doesn't have the heat pump (if someone can confirm) for the battery. |
The heat pump is not used for battery pre conditioning, if that is what you are inquiring ? It is used to keep car interior warm. This is not needed for the vast majority of our country, as we rarely use the heating inside the car. Hence, hear pump is sold only in cold countries. It is reverse of ac and keeps car interior warm. In India, it uses resistance heating ..which is like your electric clothes iron(if you need to warm the interior of the car).
Heat pump is vastly more efficient that resistance heating . And as I said earlier, not applicable for the vast majority in India.
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Originally Posted by Seeler_Rebeiro
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The heat pump is not used for battery pre conditioning, if that is what you are inquiring ? It is used to keep car interior warm. This is not needed for the vast majority of our country, as we rarely use the heating inside the car. Hence, hear pump is sold only in cold countries. It is reverse of ac and keeps car interior warm. In India, it uses resistance heating ..which is like your electric clothes iron(if you need to warm the interior of the car).
Heat pump is vastly more efficient that resistance heating . And as I said earlier, not applicable for the vast majority in India. |
From Shimla, where it can get cold in the winters, so was hoping it won't hurt to have that if it is standard on global variants.:) Also, hoping we get the AWD version down the line. Don't mind paying 4-5 lakhs more for that crazy acceleration. Although, given the hit on range is around 50 miles, it's not a deal breaker. I'm more concerned about the smaller battery which impacts the range significantly.
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Originally Posted by siren373
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From Shimla, where it can get cold in the winters, so was hoping it won't hurt to have that if it is standard on global variants.:) Also, hoping we get the AWD version down the line. Don't mind paying 4-5 lakhs more for that crazy acceleration. Although, given the hit on range is around 50 miles, it's not a deal breaker. I'm more concerned about the smaller battery which impacts the range significantly. |
Aah, yes. in the mountains it would help to have the heat pump. I am from Mumbai and did a recent Mumbai Goa trip. The capacity of the battery is more than sufficient ( goes to about 420-430 kms from 100% to 20% capacity, and that is with A/C on for throughout the journey and 4 occupants and full load of luggage). Driving up the ghats is not a challenge compared to my ICE vehicles that i owned earlier (Palio 1.6, Sunny) and the electric motor torque is really something to experience.
More than the ~6KWH increase in battery capacity that the new version includes, what would help is more fast chargers alongst the highway. It has a long way to go, but i am encouraged by investments pouring in that area.
Thanks all for the various comments. Will try to address some questions.
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Originally Posted by iliketurtles
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My only wish is that they launched it with the AWD powertrain that’s there in the EV6.
Do keep this thread up to date with details. |
Yes, the AWD would have been nice and I would probably have paid ₹ 5 l extra for it - but this is good enough for me and for Indian roads.
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Originally Posted by Axe77
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One question please:
Just curious to know, if your building did not support the native fast AC charging set up and only had the means to use a normal 15 AMP plug for slow AC charging, would this have affected your decision to purchase an EV? Asking because my Mumbai apartment complex for the foreseeable future does not look like it’ll enable anything except this 15 AMP set up. This may well be the case for our second home in Pune as well |
Personally, I would not have taken the plunge for an EV without the ability to fit the 11 KW charger in my slot. But if I think of it objectively, you use 20% charge or 15 units for about 100 km. So if your daily driving distance is that much or less, a 2.5 KW charge from a 15 amp plug will be enough to top up overnight. Not sure what daily charging from 60-80% would do to battery life though. Given your regular Pune runs, you would probably want a fast charger at at least one end so you can get to 100% overnight and then top up a bit using the 15 amp plug at the other end.
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Originally Posted by BlueGod
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Good review. Could you please let me know if the lack of support for the left knee is a big concern ? |
Not sure what this is about.
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Originally Posted by dockap
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I got my Ioniq 5 in black colour around 3 months back. I sold all 5 of my ICE cars and now have 3 electric cars. Nexon Ev Max, MG ZS Ev and Hyundai Ioniq 5. I have also installed a 15 kW Rooftop solar power plant. |
That is called going all in. Do start a thread or post your observations regularly - would be good for all of us as early adopters.
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Originally Posted by Turbanator
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There must be a repair kit that normally includes a Compressor and some liquid you can fill to stop the leak. Works well though, it will not help you if the tyre is damaged. |
This is a potential concern. But decided to live with this risk.
Thank you for the detailed writeup. I could almost feel the car through your words.
Also a couple of days back I saw the Ioniq parked outside and it is true what you said about it being even more breathtaking in the flesh.
And that also makes me wonder why can't the ICE cars be designed to be stunners like their EV siblings?
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Originally Posted by Seeler_Rebeiro
(Post 5691232)
More than the ~6KWH increase in battery capacity that the new version includes, what would help is more fast chargers alongst the highway. It has a long way to go, but i am encouraged by investments pouring in that area. |
Hey @Seeler_Rebeiro, did you travel through the Konkan region for the Mumbai to Goa journey? If So, I wanted to check the overall charging infrastructure in the Konkan. Plugshare still shows limited charging points, but I want to know how EV owners drive in the Konkan region (Especially in Maharashtra districts Raigad, Ratnagiri, and Sindhudurg section!) and handle charging challenges. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Axe77
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- Lack of a spare wheel. All the talk around range and fast charging is blunted if one can’t have complete peace of mind while going far. Of course this is increasingly becoming a norm in the premium segment but nevertheless - it’s still not something I’ve made peace with.
- The all white interiors really are avoidable. They should at least have given the option of a more manageable upholstery color.
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While the Ioniq5 does not have a spare, it comes with these kits to help you look after situations related to tyre punctures. A tyre inflator and a puncture kit.
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Originally Posted by linuxworld
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Hey @Seeler_Rebeiro, did you travel through the Konkan region for the Mumbai to Goa journey? If So, I wanted to check the overall charging infrastructure in the Konkan. Plugshare still shows limited charging points, but I want to know how EV owners drive in the Konkan region (Especially in Maharashtra districts Raigad, Ratnagiri, and Sindhudurg section!) and handle charging challenges. Thanks |
No, I did the Mumbai Pune Kolhapur Belgavi route.
I would avoid the Konkan route. Woefully inadequate for charging infra. Even on the route I took, you have a lot of options till Pune, and then it begins to get sparse. Once again in Goa there seems to be sufficient options.I relied on Jio BP, BPCL and chargers at McDonalds/Burger kings between Satara and Belgavi.
Congrats Hayek ! Wonderful car indeed. It complements your BMW and VW SUV’s nicely. With the transport strike going on and long ques at fuel pumps having an EV is a boon to have in one’s stable.
The lack of USB C ports is a glaring miss. And I didn’t like the fixed stubby drive selector lever on the steering column.
Rest, it is fantastic!
Cheers and enjoy your new ride.
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