Quote:
Originally Posted by kiku007 Sorry man. There’s fundamental issues with Tesla’s autonomous driving technology development and delivery program. Some of these are also about ethics. There are numerous articles discussing it in detail. |
I dont read too many media articles to be honest because I rarely come across information that I dont already know either from my own research or that of the Tesla community but mostly because of FUD and the fact that mainstream media rarely gets it right.
As an example, this is what the headline of one of the biggest media houses in America was recently "Mercedes leapfrogs past Tesla on automated highway driving" - the reality is that its a highly gimped system which works only upto 40 miles per hour (who drives at 40mph on a highway), cant be raining, needs dense traffic because it needs to follow cars to work and does not change lanes autonomously either. All it does is it allows you to take your hands off steering wheel if all of those sundry conditions are met and is only approved in Nevada which has some of the most lenient automation rules in the US. Nevada allows all automation levels to operate on public streets as long as the vehicle can stop if there is a malfunction in the system. They dont even issue any permit or license for it.
Here's the Mercedes system in action by the way. Now contrast this with the video I posted earlier of Tesla driving on its latest Beta.
https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/st...715716608?s=20 Quote:
Originally Posted by kiku007 I work in quality assurance and IMHO there’s a huge difference between the Apple iOS beta program and Tesla’s Autopilot beta program. My view is that Tesla is being reckless. |
It is not a like for like comparison. Beta version of operating system isnt uncommon while autonomous driving has never been solved. So how do you benchmark the Tesla's system against others - judge the system for what it can do now compared to others and take an educated bet on a company you think will be the first one to solve it - with 4mn cars on the road already doing 123mn miles daily and with every car data mining - who do you think has the most amount of real world data to train their AI system on?
Also, Autopilot is an optional purchase - the standard system works as well as any typical ADAS system out there but has much better lane keeping and is also much better at passive safety (braking for pedestrian, staying in lane etc etc) and improvements are only an off the air update away.
https://thedriven.io/2023/01/23/tesl...safety-rating/ Quote:
Originally Posted by kiku007 |
I leave the result of the lawsuit to the judge and the jury. Its not the first time a lawsuit has been filed against Tesla but would highlight more media FUD, copying verbatim from the article - "The share price also fell 5.7% on 16 February 2023 after NHTSA forced a recall of more than 362,000 Tesla vehicles equipped with full self-driving beta software because they could be unsafe around intersections." This so called recall is an off the air update, a button press for Tesla.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kiku007 I don’t know how many litres of Kool-Aid one should drink to buy the Cybertruck. It looks like a glorified Flintmobile. ![Rolling Laughter](https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/images/smilies/Rolling laughter.gif) |
I was literally speechless when Cybertruck was announced - I thought the company had lost its mind, that they would go bankrupt and was sincerely hoping that this was some sort of an elaborate joke in typical Elon fashion.
But there is method behind the madness. I cant write down all of it all here - there are plenty of resources out there but the gist is, capability wise it would be far beyond anything thats available and it is designed to look this way, partly because of the way it is going to be manufactured (cold roll steel, exoskeleton) and because it has to be unlike any other pick up truck on road because American pick up truck buyers are generally very loyal to their preferred brand.
The fact also is that people generally do not know what they want - if you asked people what would be a perfect phone before iPhone came out - they would have said something like, a phone with a 5mp camera, flash, gps and a 3.5mm jack with a color screen and full qwerty keyboard.
Asking people what they want is NOT how disruption takes place. Whether Cybertruck is going to be successful or not is anyone's guess but if you ask me, it is going to be category defining product in its capability, performance and durability and is now my fav Tesla product by far. I even love the way it looks precisely because it looks that way.