[inwester]

They still haven't fixed the ride. My car was not a lemon. It probably didn't help that I live in the NYC area, where the roads aren't the best, but still we're not talking India levels of road conditions. People all over the world from UK to US to Australia have said the same thing, on ALL Model Y variants, regardless of the tire size. Here are some 2022 videos from 2 different countries. The car is great in many aspects, poor in others. Funny this will go on to become the most selling car in the US soon. To each their own, I rest my case on this topic.

https://youtu.be/W3H5yNq1_Nc

https://youtu.be/7KP8x2pEcbo

[gvarma9989]

Originally Posted by inwester

The handling is poor as well, except in straight line. The steering doesn't inspire confidence at all and at high speeds its downright dangerous and car doesn't handle well, IMHO. Any European car, with some luxury or sport heritage, handles FAR better than Teslas' in my opinion, definitely Model Y is the worst handling car among all Teslas'.

Tesla has poor ride quality, combination of stiff suspension and low profile tires, there is no other way around it.

Poor handling?
Completely disagree with your statement.
Model Y handles better than Q5, X3 and Macan, which I have driven extensively.

Performance?
It feels light years ahead of traditional German cars.

IMO,
Colleagues who leased Tesla hate them, because they can't buy them back?
People who bought them generally has a positive ownership experience.
I can see the pattern

No car is perfect. Model Y has plenty of cons, handling/performance is not of them.

Few pictures from my cross country drive.

[ariendj]

The Model Y handles better than the standard German competitors. I did a back to back ride recently when I rented a X3, GLC and previously owned a Q5.
The bottom heavy Tesla due to the battery is very planted and its a hoot to drive on windy roads.

On a side note, this was a shot taken few weeks back on our Model Y at the Smokey Mountains.

[mobike008]

Originally Posted by lexusES350

I'm not sure if those rumors of people selling their reservations is true as Tesla is not allowing Transfer of Reservations/Titles as far as I know. Leaving that aside, there are definitely scalpers who buy Teslas and immediately put them in resale market and make slight profits.

Cool. I want aware that reservations cannot be sold or transferred. Got to see that loophole is locked as I see plenty of folks selling immediately for a profit as the waiting timelines too high.

Originally Posted by lexusES350

Trust me, it handles very well and has good enough ride quality. I was in two minds about ride quality between LR and P and did test drives of both models many times. However, even between my test drive (March 2022 VIN#423* block) to my own car (June 2022 VIN#494 block) ride quality has been made better. There are numerous reports out there as well which claim that they have improved upon the ride quality in MY's. Perhaps they tweaked the tune a bit to make it less bumpy and rough. Its noticeably smooth than the car I drove on test drive.

Interesting. MYP that I drove was brand new so probably the one that got the updates that you mention above. It drove pretty good and there was absolutely no complaints from a handling perspective.

Originally Posted by lexusES350

That's an excellent news, you've got a great rate. If Tesla Insurance is available in your area, check them out. They were very competitive too when I was shopping around. As I said, I decided to stick with State Farm due to bundling I have with them.

You can say that again. I think, I just bust the myth that Tesla Insurance is super expensive. LOL!

Originally Posted by carthick1000

Thanks mobike008 for putting together a comprehensive write-up of your Model Y Performance test drive. I am glad to hear a lot of positive things from a BMW user.

Thanks Karthik. After driving my X3M 40i, my benchmark has become my own car.

All other cars including the regular BMW’s feel good to drive but, not exciting (Including my recent drive of an X3 30i e- A hybrid, more on it on my ownership report thread later).

Compared to my car, MYP felt almost same or maybe even better from a pure performance perspective.

My simple need when I get behind a steering wheel is it should be exciting to drive. MYP passed that test with flying colors.

Originally Posted by carthick1000

The above disadvantages are not existing in model 3 from the past. Only 3P used to have a bit stiffer suspension tune but nowhere near model Y. Very recently, I test drove both M3P and MYP and it seems Tesla has tweaked their suspensions and M3P feels much livelier dynamically than the older model 3. MYP felt to me as still too stiff for my taste. It seems to have a go kart type suspension without any feedback.

Interesting view from a Tesla Model 3 owner who has clocked 50K kms.

My recent test drive of M3P was slightly on the contrary. I felt the suspension of M3P quite stiff or maybe the roads that I drove (University of Washington- UDUB area is notorious for patchy roads) was not conducive. But, I felt the M3P ride on harder side.

Originally Posted by akhilesh

Subjective opinions aside, here is the Model Y undergoing the "moose test" and absolutely acing it. According to the magazine, Model Y is one of the best cars they have done this test with. It also aced the test when compared with BMW iX3, admittedly a common platform being used for both ICE and electric and the Chinese NIO ES6. And its not even the Performance model.

Thanks for sharing. That is commendable for such a tall SUV (MYP, I reckon is the tallest of the 3 in that test). I’m sad my car didn’t do that well. Lol!

Originally Posted by gvarma9989

Tesla has poor ride quality, combination of stiff suspension and low profile tires, there is no other way around it.

Poor handling?
Completely disagree with your statement.
Model Y handles better than Q5, X3 and Macan, which I have driven extensively.

Performance?
It feels light years ahead of traditional German cars.

IMO,
Colleagues who leased Tesla hate them, because they can't buy them back?
People who bought them generally has a positive ownership experience.
I can see the pattern.

No car is perfect. Model Y has plenty of cons, handling/performance is not of them.

Few pictures from my cross country drive.

I agree on Q5 and X3 regular versions. I have driven both quite a few times.

Out of the two, X3 is any day a more driver focused car while the Q5 to put it simply, is a boring car to drive.

I am surprised you found the MYP better than a Macan. I never drove one but, I am sure they drive better than a BMW and probably a Tesla. Any more thoughts on why you felt MYP was better than a Macan?

Nice pictures, Thanks for sharing.

Originally Posted by ariendj

The Model Y handles better than the standard German competitors. I did a back to back ride recently when I rented a X3, GLC and previously owned a Q5.
The bottom heavy Tesla due to the battery is very planted and its a hoot to drive on windy roads.

On a side note, this was a shot taken few weeks back on our Model Y at the Smokey Mountains.

This is exact response I get when I speak to my friends who own a Tesla. None of them even own a Performance version and they all gush like school kids about how well it drives.

Comparing the performance with well known German cars like the ones you listed above and they not fairing well tells a story how far the EV makers have come from a performance perspective.

Tesla Model 3 Performance Test Drive Report (2022 Model)

When I test drove the Model Y Performance, I was bowled by its performance as well as handling. Admittedly, the ride was slightly on harder side but, nothing to complain about.

But, when Inwebster posted about his unhappy experience with a Model Y, I was taken aback as it was exactly opposite to what I felt. I mean, the Y felt decently planted, good handling for large SUV and performance was blistering.

I decided to test drive the affordable “super car” in their lineup— Yup, the Tesla Model 3 Performance

I called my friendly Tesla Pal- Jason who gets me into a test drive faster than I can say “Test Drive” to hook me up for a test drive.

I had called him on Saturday and told him I am scheduled to be in that area on Monday (August 1st) as I had to drop my BMW for service. His immediate response was what time you want to come in and I told him 10:00am on Monday (August 1st, 2022) and he confirmed the TD appointment immediately.

When I reached the Tesla showroom, he told me he got a brand new (< 1 Month) old 2022 M3P for my test drive. It was charged to 270 miles and ready to go.

I never had a better experience with any dealership in my life till date. His actions and service is faster than the acceleration of Tesla Model 3 Performance. And, I did tell him that and we both had a good laugh. LOL!

Super happy with his service as he was not selling me a car, he was selling me an experience.

While Tesla gives a 1-hour as standard test drive, Jason winked at me and said, take it for a longer spin and come back in 3-hours as he had no other appointment that morning being a Monday. But, I had to get back to work myself but, I still took the M3P for 1.5 hours spin and drove over all surfaces and roads.

I will keep my review short as I had already outlined my feedback on Tesla Model Y Performance and will focus on the differences between the Tesla Model Y Performance and Tesla Model 3 Performance

MYP vs M3P

Acceleration

MYP was blistering fast and felt like you are being launched in air. But, the M3P left me shocked and scared witless as it reaches speed limit (speed locked to 85mph) in a blur.

It’s just not legal for a car to be this fast and be driving around public roads in that unassuming guise.

The acceleration difference between the MYP and M3P while on paper is not much (0-60mph in 3.5 Seconds vs 0-60mph in 3.1 seconds), in reality you can feel the difference due to :

Lower Center of Gravity
Seating Position
305 LBS lighter

I’m not new to powerful engines and drive a 4-second 0-60mph BMW but, M3P acceleration left me absolutely speechless and if you are not careful or judge the distance between you and car ahead, it can be disastrous.

Steering and Handling

Steering feels overtly heavy but, is accurate and well weighted, with three different settings that adjust the level of steering effort. It’s pretty sharp like MYP, M3P changes directions quickly and with just with a flick of the steering wheel input.

Handling is lithe and lot better than the MYP which itself is not a slouch in this department.

M3P has all the advantages of being a sedan. Lower center of gravity, larger 21” Ubertine wheels, Sticky tyres makes the car feel drive in supercar territory.

A simple google search list the following cars that are “slower” than a M3P. I was not aware and was shocked to see some of my favorite cars in that list.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/tesla-m...lly-fast-cars/

Ride

Contrary to Karthik’s view, Ride quality n M3P was slightly harder than the MYP. I felt the imperfections of some of the backroads seep through the cabin but, when on freeway, ride becomes smooth.

In short, if I was looking for hard core performance that knocks the socks of sports cars that cost 2 or even 3 times its cost, I would get the Tesla Model 3 Performance eyes closed.

Here are some pics of M3P that I test drove. It was a super-fun experience thanks to Jason.

[gvarma9989]

Originally Posted by mobike008

I am surprised you found the MYP better than a Macan. I never drove one but, I am sure they drive better than a BMW and probably a Tesla. Any more thoughts on why you felt MYP was better than a Macan?

My BIL used to own a Macan 2.0 before he switched to Model X.

We are regulars at:

- Santa Cruz Highway - 18
- La honda - 84

In both Macan/Teslas, some of the best windy roads in the country from car enthusiast perspective.

Macan overall package? I would rate it above Model Y.
It is not exciting on winding roads.
There is no rush, feels too sorted and lazy when compared with Model Y/P.

Model Y/P steering feels twitchy in a good away.
It is eager to change direction,
Combined with low centre of gravity and acceleration,
It is super fun at switchbacks.

You feel like driving a Go kart with over clocked engine braking.
Regen braking is most underrated feature of Model Y/P.
One you ace the Regen, you can get a huge sense of control/security to push the car around.

Model Y ride/build quality is a huge negative over Macan.
High speed braking is below average when compared with Macan.

[mobike008]

Originally Posted by gvarma9989

My BIL used to own a Macan 2.0 before he switched to Model X.

We are regulars at:

- Santa Cruz Highway - 18
- La honda - 84

In both Macan/Teslas, some of the best windy roads in the country from car enthusiast perspective.

Macan overall package? I would rate it above Model Y.
It is not exciting on winding roads.
There is no rush, feels too sorted and lazy when compared with Model Y/P.

Model Y/P steering feels twitchy in a good away.
It is eager to change direction,
Combined with low centre of gravity and acceleration,
It is super fun at switchbacks.

Oh! you are comparing the Model YP with a Macan 2.0. Well, now it makes sense as it makes a lot less power (I think 250 horses around) and cannot be compared with a YP which is literally double on the horsepower.

I agree on the build quality side. There is a lot of improvement that they need to work on but, going by the backorders they need to deliver, they seem to be focused on churning out as many as they can.

Hope they continue to improve on the quality issues which has been the only sore point with a Tesla.