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Old 21st August 2020, 15:03   #1
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Lunaz unveils electrified classic Rolls Royce cars from £350k

Lunaz Ltd, a Silverstone based electric powertrain solution provider, has unveiled all-electric versions of the classic Rolls Royce Phantom and Silver Cloud. The company will do a ground up restoration on these old cars and add their electric powertrains. Only 30 such slots are offered with a starting price of GBP 3,50,000.

A 1961 Rolls-Royce Phantom V has been restored by Lunaz. The company will also offer Silver Clouds in a variety of body styles including four-door limousine, two-door coupe and drophead coupe for interested clients.

On the inside, the 1961 Phantom by Lunaz is offered in an eight-seat configuration with a front bench for 3 occupants, rear bench for a further 3 passengers and 2 additional jump seats. The fully tailor made restoration process enables owners to customise the interiors as per their liking. A modern infotainment unit with 2 screens at the back is also incorporated into the car.

Rolls-Royce Phantoms by Lunaz are powered by the firm’s proprietary electric powertrain with a 120 kWh battery pack, which is said to offer a range of 483 km on a single charge. The company has reused the car's original switchgear but repurposed it for the updated powertrain including the integration of a battery range meter and power gauge. The car comes with both home charging and rapid charging systems.

The company also makes other electrified cars based on classic Jaguars and Bentleys amongst others.

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Old 21st August 2020, 18:00   #2
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Re: Lunaz unveils electrified classic Rolls Royce cars from £350k

In the speedometer (or whatever meter it is), it shows negative figures as well.
Could someone knowledgeable throw some light upon this?

Also, what are the power figures of this electric power train?
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Re: Lunaz unveils electrified classic Rolls Royce cars from £350k

These conversions are one way to keep them running for years to come despite tightening norms. But I doubt people getting their hands on one would use it that frequently. Hope there is sufficient support for years to come.
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In the speedometer (or whatever meter it is), it shows negative figures as well. Could someone knowledgeable throw some light upon this?
I marked that negative side also. Probably would be to show the amount for regenerative braking in the 'power' gauge. Modern cars from Rolls Royce do not have a conventional tachometer but a 'power reserve' gauge which shows how much remaining power is available. This is somewhat of an opposite of a tachometer. The person who thought this actual deserves an applause. Fancy stuff.
Edit: Added a pic of one from a 2014 Rolls Royce Wraith Review (source):
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Re: Lunaz unveils electrified classic Rolls Royce cars from £350k

I'd rather buy this than those ugly new Phantoms. Actually, I'd rather buy this than a lot of cars.
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Mod Note: Thread moved to the Electric Vehicle section! Thanks for sharing.
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This is such a cool idea. All those restorations of old cars which are expensive and take insane amount of time and yet you don't get a reliable option and many engine / drivetrain components not available could be made simpler with this.

I know it won't be original and authentic but to preserve the heritage of the car this is such a cool option. Just have the body and interiors intact and put in a EV powertrain.

You get a reliable option. Anyways these are meant for show and small distances and not for cross country trips.

This could be a big thing. Restorations with EV power trains.
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Old 31st August 2020, 14:52   #7
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Re: Lunaz unveils electrified classic Rolls Royce cars from £350k

I'm in love with this idea. Beautiful amalgamation of past and future.

Having said that, I cannot imagine being driven around in one of these except for maybe car shows etc. While Rolls is not exactly subtle, this is even more ostentatious. Think Korean Dictator types. Not British Monarchs.

You know what I think they should do, electrify a Morgan. Now that would be electrifying.

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Or even one of the Singer Porsches. But that would be pure pornography.

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Oh man, I can feel the fizz coming on.
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In the speedometer (or whatever meter it is), it shows negative figures as well.
Could someone knowledgeable throw some light upon this?
The figures in negative surely indicate regeneration from braking. I am sure pretty much everybody here understands what regeneration is. So fear of repetition notwithstanding, here is what regeneration is. Regeneration or regenerative braking is used to convert a part of the kinetic energy of the vehicle into elecricity and fed back to the vehicle batteries. For doing this, the motor is controlled such that voltage higher than the battery voltage is produced on the bus (battery cables, simply put). This means the current, earlier flowing from battery to motor(s) now flows in the opposite direction, thus charging the battery. Some of the vehicle's kinetic energy is used in this process, which ultimately results into reduction in speed, i.e. braking action. Naturally, higher the vehicle speed (and mass too), more the regeneration possible.

Now, this can not only be done during braking (i.e. when the brake peddle is pressed) but also when the vehicle is coasting. This can also give a feel of engine braking (loss of speed when accelerator is released) experienced in a conventional fossil fuel based vehicle.

This improves the efficiency of the electric power train system which of course results in improved range. Coming to the negative numbers in yellow - they simply indicate the amount of regenerative power being fed back to the batteries. Now I am pretty sure that for the 0 to +100 and 0 to -50 markings, the actual scale of power is different. That is, if 100 corresponds to 100kw power, -50 doesn't mean 50kw of regenerative power.

Good thing is that theoretically 100% regeneration is possible (it has it's own systemic inefficiency though). Depending on the vehicle manufacturer's preference of range and vehicle feel/handling, the amount of regeneration is decided. Typical figures are in the range of 20-30% of maximum vehicle power.
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Re: Lunaz unveils electrified classic Rolls Royce cars from £350k

That is One stunning looking car. Absolutely love it. The electric motor is like icing on top of the cake. No more reliability issues in terms of the motor at least. Plus, the saying would still hold true: the only thing you hear inside a Rolls Royce is the clock ticking.

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Re: Lunaz unveils electrified classic Rolls Royce cars from £350k

They are willing to do Bentleys and Range Rovers too.

Top Gear spent some time with the Bentley. The details especially inside are real good.

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