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| Re: Journeying into the electric future – My Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor Review Two important updates that happened recently: 1. I purchased FSD at a discount! (June 2020) |
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| Tesla Model 3 LR beats Performance variant in Carwow rolling race Note to Mods: I am not sure which thread this post belongs to. Please attach this post to the appropriate thread if deemed necessary. The latest of the brilliant drag race series by Matt Watson's carwow whcih involved the three variants of the Tesla Model 3 seems to have thrown in quite some surprises: 1) While the Performance won the drag race, the LR variant is quite close behind while the entry level variant was last. 2) The rolling race was where the surprise lies. They did three rolling races - one at 30 MPH (48 Km/hr), one at 50 MPH (80 Km/hr) and one at 70 MPH (112 Km/hr). In the latter two, the LR variant was actually faster than the performance variant with the entry level variant very close behing which effectively means that the extra price you pay for the performance variant (+ drop in range) vis a vis the LR variant is just for the increased power at launch! Now, they haven't really explained why the LR actually seems to be quicker at higher speeds. Perhaps a knowledgeable Bhp-ian could explain this intriguing outcome. Last edited by dragracer567 : 27th March 2021 at 15:21. |
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| Re: Tesla Model 3 LR beats Performance variant in Carwow rolling race Quote:
As for why you see the P being the clear winner in the 0-60mph sprints while the Dual Motor catches up in the higher speed test runs - that's because Tesla has just programmed the Dual Motor variants to have a slightly slower torque curve off the line. ![]() Elon had alluded to this in his tweets in the past, and indeed, I have tried my hand at tweeting at him to offer a Track Mode "software unlock" paid option to Dual Motor Model 3 owners like me.. but no luck so far ![]() ![]() | |
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BHPian ![]() | Re: Journeying into the electric future – My Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor Review Great ownership and review thread! I too like the S design: ![]() Thank you for a detailed write up. There is almost no reason to upgrade from one Tesla model to another. I wish you many happy and safe miles in your beautiful car. |
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| What Happens If You Smash Tesla Model 3 Screen While Driving? ICYMI: <From the quirky and bizzare Internet> Here's what happens if you smash a Tesla's center display while driving: The center display controls practically everything inside the car, so what happens if you destroy it with a sledgehammer? Just how durable is the Tesla model 3 center glass display screen? What happens if you destroy it? Time to find out. YouTuber TechRax finds out Watch on: Spoiler Alert The car keeps driving/ running, you really donot need that screen/ display/ console to keep the car running!! Source IG/ FB: DigitalTrends YouTube: TechRax |
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| Re: What Happens If You Smash Tesla Model 3 Screen While Driving? People have gone from smashing smartphones to now touchscreens on cars ! ![]() Never driven a Tesla, but I assume the touchscreen is the one that controls all the A/C controls and music system etc. So yeah technically the car will still drive, but without control over the creature comforts that we are used to. Hope the next video doesn't involve smashing the whole car ! |
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| Re: What Happens If You Smash Tesla Model 3 Screen While Driving? Quote:
I find such videos absolutely disgusting. Let's see what happens if we do this. I mean, this is even beyond first world problems. Destroying a sweet ride like that and for what? Views? I really abhor this social media culture. Everybody wants attention and is ready to pay any price for it... Willingly destroying a beautiful car which many of us will be lucky to own and drive like this...for views? Such people don't have any morality other than money. I understand that they do it to sell their videos etc but come on... Is it just me who hates stuff like this? ![]() | |
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| Re: Journeying into the electric future – My Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor Review Amazing thread Harshal - chronicling your time and updates done to Saphira in such great detail! |
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Senior - BHPian | Re: Journeying into the electric future – My Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor Review I cannot stop smiling to myself as I read through the thread. So this is what a car buying experience of the future would look like! Excellent thread and thanks for including all the details, the videos every step of the way. Just read the posts starting from the FSD purchase on and it sure has whetted my appetite to read the entirety of the thread. What struck me apart from the technology aspect is how far ahead Tesla is in the relationship between the customer and the manufacturer. The constant OTA upgrades that help you continuously spec up your car, the largely onsite service with limited trips to the service center all this bring into stark reality how far behind the curve the regular manufacturers are in this game. Truly back to the future stuff! ![]() Drive on, Shibu |
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| Re: What Happens If You Smash Tesla Model 3 Screen While Driving? Quote:
It's also absurd that people take these videos seriously. I mean of course the car will run without a screen, this is essentially smashing your monitor and being surprised the CPU still works ![]() | |
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| Re: Journeying into the electric future – My Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor Review Alright guys, some really bad news and some really good news. Bad news is, I lost the car :( Totalled by insurance company for underbody battery damage! This happened a few months ago and I haven't had the strength to type it all up, but after seeing the T-BHP Newsletter email today and seeing Saphira at the top, I felt the time has come. Also, I feel comfortable enough now (especially in light of the good news) to open up about the incident. We were on a road trip from Michigan to the west coast and back, and this happened on the return journey. Basically, a random metallic object (most likely a differential casing or something similar) was lying on the highway / was freshly dropped from some previous vehicle, and ended up damaging three vehicles including Saphira. It was the middle of the night and the middle of nowhere (incident happened on I-40 East, about an hour east of Kingman, AZ at around 9 PM - we had just stopped for a Supercharging break and were heading for a hotel in Sedona). Luckily I do have dashcam footage of the incident, but it did nothing to help nor harm me as it was just a rogue object. Here's a video of the incident captured on dashcam: As you can see, it appeared quite suddenly, and because the car was on Autopilot, a sudden disengagement + yanking the steering wheel could've produced who knows what result. At the end of the video you see the other affected vehicles - an SUV and a semi truck. The SUV just got a tire burst + broken wheel (I think), they installed a spare and were on their way in half an hour. The semi truck eventually had to be towed away (I think damage to the radiator or something like that. Initially we suspected that the part fell off of the semi itself, but the truck driver claimed that he got hit by the same object as us). Speaking of damage to Saphira, well
Some pictures from the night: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I was understandably in shock, too numb to think straight. One quick glance at the underbody with a flashlight told me all I needed to know, that this was not going to be an easy repair. I quickly called 911, my insurance company, and Tesla roadside, in that order. The car thought it was fine, actually if you look at the Alerts / log photo above, it did not even know that the battery had taken a hit - no cell damage, no coolant leakage / pressure/temperature warnings. As far as the car thought, the low tire pressure in one tire (front right) was all it knew. Still, the battery was at a pretty high SoC (having just juiced up at a Supercharger), so I was right to be worried about that aspect - lucky nothing else pierced, or maybe a testament to Tesla's engineering that an object that could shatter an alloy wheel could only produce a small shear force on the battery shield casing. The police officer arrived about half an hour later and took statements from all three vehicles involved, and that formed the basis of my insurance report. Insurance helped me book a rental car right then and there for the next day, luckily there was an Enterprise rental very close to the hotel we were heading towards that night. The tow vehicle arrived and the vehicle was loaded up. In terms of continuing our onward journey though, we were extremely lucky that we had friends in another car traveling with us in this particular leg of the road trip (they had flown from Michigan to Vegas and we were doing the Nevada - Arizona - Utah leg together). They were just a couple of miles behind us when this happened, in fact the first thing I did even before we came to a full stop was to call them and scream "STAY IN THE LEFT LANE STAY IN THE LEFT LANE", upon which they narrowly missed hitting the same damn thing and were able to pull up a few hundred feet ahead of us. It was their presence that helped me work through the situation, otherwise I was too numb to make the right decisions at that time. We loaded up all the stuff from my car into their rental car (a not-so-huge Mazda CX-30, honestly what exactly is that car? a lifted hatchback? A trimmed down crossover?). So eventually, 6 people (4 friends + me+wifey), their luggage along with the entire contents of my Tesla, of which there was a LOT because we were carrying all sorts of oddities like air mattresses and blankets and what not - everything was crammed into the poor little CX-30 and we made our way in extreme discomfort to our hotel in Sedona, about a two and a half hour journey made with eyes wide open for debris on the road! The bags were crammed in all the footwells except the driver (one of my friends, the poor guy himself had a backpack resting in between him and the steering wheel as he drove), while my other friend in the front passenger seat had bags in the entire footwell area + up on the dash, I had no idea how she sat cross legged in that space for the entire trip! Eventually we made it to the hotel and the next day we got a rental car, a Nissan Maxima which would be our steed for the remainder of our trip. I was honestly in no mood to enjoy the trip, but after much internal deliberations, decided to put aside my feelings for a few days and have fun while we were with our friends. We covered some amazing places, including parts of Sedona I had never seen before, the Grand Canyon south rim trail (only first 2 miles, up to the appropriately named "Ooh Aah!" point), and the absolutely gorgeous Zion National Park being the highlights of the trip. But that's another story. Saphira meanwhile, was shipped off to the nearest Tesla service center, that being the one in Las Vegas. From there, we received a quote for $18000, which included a complete battery replacement + wheel and tire replacement. ![]() I was completely mind-blown that a full battery replacement would be necessary, and even tried debating with the Service center reps over it, but they said they cannot allow any repairs to the battery that has taken such a high speed hit. I'm glad they didn't repair it though, as my confidence in the pack would've been somewhat degraded after that, especially every time I went to a Supercharger. This was just an initial quote estimate however, while the final quote would've been drawn up after the front of the car was opened up to check for damages to the bumper / underbody plastics etc. I forwarded this to my insurance claims adjuster (Progressive), and they left me in suspense for quite a few days, during which two options were on the table:
The collision part really bugged me though. Apparently, submitting the video to them sealed the case, because in their words, "stationary" objects on the road are not covered under Comprehensive coverage, because it is expected that the driver will avoid them. Only moving objects other than vehicles are considered under Comprehensive, for example a deer crossing the road and running into your car. So no matter which option was chosen, I got a collision on my driving record, which will shoot up my insurance rates for the next couple of years at least. In the end, after internal financial calculations, Progressive decided to declare my car a total loss, and their vehicle appraiser came up with a pretty generous offer for my car - approximately $46000. If you remember, I bought the car for around $49000. Not bad for 2 years and 37,000 miles on the clock! The market value of the car definitely held up, and I think a good chunk of it was the FSD package I had. Non-FSD Model 3's of my vintage were going for around $4000 less at that time (of course, if this had happened in the last few weeks, the craziness in the US used car market could've seen me recoup even more than I put into the car!) Basically though, the Progressive appraiser provided a detailed report of 5 similarly equipped Model 3's that had sold for similar prices, and they calculated my price based on those. I was satisfied with what they offered and asked them to draw up the paperwork. ![]() I accepted the offer and that was it. Saphira was no longer mine! :( ************************************************** Chronologically, these are the last pictures I have of her in the Las Vegas Service Center. I wasn't even allowed near her as they had placed High Voltage Danger signs all around! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() For a few months after this, I missed Saphira terribly. I'd keep opening the app, checking out the location like a creepy stalking ex. For the longest period of time, it stayed at the Copart salvage yard in Vegas. One day though, I noticed that the location had suddenly changed to somewhere in Delaware - that meant that the car was sold to somebody at a salvage auction. No doubt that somebody could very easily just weld the underbody portion of the battery casing, and have a brand spanking new Model 3 with FSD for a pretty good price! What happened next was wild though - a few weeks later, I opened the app to find that the car was in - surprise surprise - Ukraine! ![]() ![]() ![]() I had read on Tesla forums about salvaged Model S's ending up in poorer eastern European countries where there is a demand for such cars with lack of transparency on regulations (i.e. what is legally a salvage car in the US may not necessarily be a salvage car in those countries). After this, I stopped checking the app for location details as if felt like intruding on their privacy, but I did notice an interesting catch - they (and at this point I was sure it was a third-party high-tech service center of some sort) had managed to convert my Dual Motor all-wheel-drive Model 3 to a Performance Model 3, as noted by the red line under the Dual Motor badging in the app! ![]() ![]() After this, the journey well and truly came to an end, as the new owner (whoever this dealer ended up selling the car to in Ukraine) formally requested Tesla for a transfer of ownership, of which I was informed via email by Tesla, and after that paperwork was done, I lost access to the app. ![]() And that, was the end of it. No more Model 3. No more Saphira. No more Tesla.... Or was it??Apparently, fate wasn't done with me. Out of the dark clouds came a glimmer of sunshine, a different kind of hope. A few weeks before this incident happened, I had received this message on Linkedin. ![]() It seems that fate loves to toy with you in the strangest of ways. No, I wasn't considering a switch at this point in my life (I was beginning to consider the possibility of a switch at some point in the near future, but that was it). Anyway, one thing led to another (the process was quite challenging in a good way), and I started working with Tesla last month! ![]() So that's the good note which I'd like to end this story at. Obviously, this thread may no longer be necessary as I do not own a Model 3 anymore. Also, I cannot share any internal Tesla information, but I can speak to publicly known facts. If there is value in keeping this thread open, for example with the recent sightings of a Model 3 in Pune, there might be renewed interest so I may be able to answer people's questions about the car in general. Thanks for reading this far, and have a good day! This is Saphira, signing off! (I'd be lying if I said I didn't choke up while writing all of this tonight) ![]() ![]() ![]() Last edited by Harshal.Bhosale : 3rd July 2021 at 15:19. |
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BHPian ![]() | Re: Journeying into the electric future – My Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor Review Harshal loses Tesla. Tesla finds Harshal ![]() Indeed it was too bad that the scattered objects lying on highways is a menace in most US highways. During my work related travels to US, I got acquainted such scattered objects. It is usually fallen off from some other vehicle. And when I see cars parked on the shoulder, I normally slow down a bit and move over to the other lane, as this is a potentially unsafe situation. Unfortunately it turned out bad in your case. Looking at the positive side, no injuries whatsoever. And getting hit by ~$3500 depreciation for a 39000mile driven car is like almost nothing. And ending up with a job at Tesla is like icing on the cake. Overall a bumpy ride for saphira but a good destination for Harshal. Thanks for sharing the price of the battery pack. $15000 for 75kWh. So $200/kWh. Btw CX-30 is a Mazda 3 on stilts, but with more practical boot, rear visibility and interior space unlike Mazda 3. Last edited by carthick1000 : 3rd July 2021 at 15:40. |
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| Re: Journeying into the electric future – My Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor Review Sorry to see the care totalled but on the upside you got good value from the insurance company and you could now go ahead and buy the same car or perhaps the Model Y with a company discount. If you get the new Model 3, you get additional features plus extra range too, thanks to that Octovalve. |
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| Re: Journeying into the electric future – My Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor Review Hey, just stumbled upon this beautiful thread - I ordered a 2021 Model Y Long Range, Red color (paid $2600 extra) with a 7 seater configuration (additional $4k) and black interior here in Toronto, Canada. The estimated date of delivery changed from early September to end of this month- am pivoting from a 2019 Lexus RX 350 (one of the most reliable vehicles here in North America) to this spaceship. Went for a loan this time around as Tesla's lease terms were sub-optimal- hope to see the spaceship sooner than later. Total damage was $76,480 CAD. |
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