[adhisk]

This is THE most detailed TM3 review I have seen till now! Kudos to you sir! A friend of mine has a black LR w optional wheels and having driven it extensively, I am sure our next car is going to be a Tesla! This thread is going to be an amazing reference point when the time comes and our lease is up. BTW, it made me so happy that you mentioned Somerset and Troy because I live 2 miles away from there! Thank you so much for the awesome read!

[extreme_torque]

For anyone wondering why Tesla does not spend anything on marketing or that why dont they have a PR department, this thread is a perfect example. The extremely happy owners.

[GTO]

Harshal, congratulations on owning the future of motoring . That is one incredible review & gives my own ownership thread a run for its money in terms of the detailing .

Having driven many EVs now, I can tell you that Tesla tunes its electric powertrains the best. They are the most responsive, the most fun to push hard and offer the best range. I'll say that Tesla is 5 years ahead of even biggies like VW, Mercedes & others when it comes to EV tech.

Your thread reminds me of the crazy fun I had in Boston with a Model 3 dual motor. The other car in the garage was a 6-cylinder GLE, yet I found myself taking the Model 3's keys more often. Heck, I had rented a Cayman off Turo and found it to be "slow" after the Model 3.

[v1p3r]

Fantastic thread - your love for your car really shines through. I remember driving the P90D when it was launched and being blown away by its acceleration as well as the UI/UX. Can't wait to see these on Indian roads.

[carthick1000]

That is a very long write up. It took me 2 evenings to even read it. I don't know how long you took to compile it. Btw, I do own a Model 3 SR+ here in the Netherlands. Nice to see such a detailed review. I will bookmark this review, just in case if I need to refer to some details on the features on the cars. Even the Tesla user manual is not so detailed.

Originally Posted by Harshal.Bhosale

A closer look at the front suspension - upper and lower control arms (wishbones) marked in red, steering arm / tierod marked in blue. Steering Knuckle / Upright highlighted in Green. Note the coil spring mounted to the lower control arm, and the anti-rollbar linkage connected to the coil spring itself.
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Another look from the back. Steering tie rod in Cyan, Steering Knuckle highlighted in green, driveshaft from the front motor/diff circled in red. Unique design of the lower control arm, its not one A-arm but rather two separate components resulting in two mounting points on the steering knuckle. The member with the spring mounted on it seems to be designed to constrain just the longitudinal motion and allow for vertical jounce/rebound, whereas the member behind it locates the suspension geometry in longitudinal as well as lateral direction. Its definitely weird, and if any suspension experts out there have any idea as to why they might have designed it this way I'd like to hear your opinion. This design is also probably why the turning radius of the car is so large - one of my only issues with the engineering behind the Model 3.
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The separate lower control arms with 2 mounting points to the upright is not unique. If you see most German cars (my experience is with BMW) and some Japanese cars with McPherson type suspension at front, you can see this type of construction. Also it is an engineering principle (If you are an automotive engineer, you might know the Vehicle dynamics books of Genta and Milliken & Milliken) to have two lower control arms (culminating at two points on the upright lower part to have an imaginary lower pivot point further outside of the upright) inorder to have control over the Scrub radius. Instead of me writing about it, I like this article of Roger Jackman (HR springs) who explain this crisply in 1 page:

Scrub Radius
BY ROGER JACKMAN
This man walks into a bar… “NORM!” He proceeds to belly up to the bar and begins to talk about the daily grind and the latest in his relationship with his wife. The bartender, a former sports icon, talks to a patron at the other end of the bar about the specifics of modifying the suspension on his Corvette. He was told that after changing to an aftermarket wheel and tire combination, he needs to modify the scrub radius a bit and wants to know what in the world they were talking about. Cliff is trying to explain that scrub has been in use since early man invented the wheel. He claims, “in order to get the perfect lateral friction to rolling resistance ratio, you must periodically ‘scrub’ the tires to expose the unused material.”

Does this scenario sound like you and your car buddies at the local watering hole after a club meet or romp through the countryside? I know I have heard it somewhere before. Now, I was able to get through school with a little intuition and a lot of B.S., but these qualities do not always work when I am dealing with inanimate objects that are not humored by my B.S. and theory. When dealing with suspension design and dynamics, little things that are easily overlooked like scrub radius can make a greater difference in your car’s handling and feel than all your theory and fervent tuning can accomplish.

To understand scrub, you must first know about Steering Axis Inclination (SAI). The steering axis is the line between the top pivot point of your hub and the lower ball joint of your hub. On a MacPherson strut, the top pivot point is the strut bearing, and the bottom point is the lower ball joint. On a suspension using upper and lower control arms, the pivot points are where the upright connects to the control arms. The inclination of the steering axis is measured as the angle between the steering axis and the centerline of the wheel, so if your camber is adjustable within the pivot points (i.e. Volkswagen) you can change the SAI.

Now back to the subject at hand. The scrub radius is the distance on the ground between the centerline of the tire contact patch and the point at which the SAI intersects the ground. If these two lines intersect at ground level, then you are said to have zero scrub. If the SAI intersects the ground at a point inside or outside of the centerline of the contact patch, you are said to have positive or negative scrub respectively.

You now know what elements make up scrub, now you may ask what it has to do with the price of tea in China? Well, the point at which the steering axis line contacts the ground is the fulcrum pivot point on which the tire turns. The location of this point within the contact patch has a great effect on steering effort, feel, and stability. If you have not already guessed, the easiest way to change scrub is by changing your offset with either new wheels, or hub centric wheel spacers.

If the scrub is zero, the scrubbing action of the contact patch is equal on either side of the pivot point causing the tire to act like a car with a welded differential, inducing a condition called ‘squirm’. In a straight line the tire tends to be stable and tracks well. As you turn though, the portion of the contact patch on the outside of the pivot point moves faster than the portion on the inside of the contact patch. Since the scrubbing area is equal on each side of the pivot point, yet the forces are different, the tire tends to fight itself and it becomes ‘grabby’ causing tire wear to increase and the steering to become unstable.

Positive and negative scrub radii have benefits in different types of suspension. A MacPherson strut assembly typically performs well with a lot of SAI and caster, a system negative scrub works well in. Because both SAI and caster increase the amount of camber on the outside wheel when steering, the fulcrum pivot point is at a point that has more leverage, requiring less steering effort. Negative scrub also helps reduce torque steer in front wheel drive cars. Positive scrub radius works well with suspensions that use dual control arms that use less caster and SAI to optimize geometry.

As with anything else, a little of a good thing is great, but lot of a good thing is not necessarily better. When you have excessive scrub, whether it be positive or negative, steering effort increases and road ‘feel’ increases, as the steering is more susceptible to road shock. Additionally, if you plan on doing some homework on, and modifying your scrub radius, you must take into account the amount of sidewall flex your tire will encounter under hard cornering. When the sidewall flexes, the contact patch moves in relation to the SAI and can make a slightly negative scrub radius become zero.

Well, now you know all about scrub, so the next time it comes up at the watering hole you have the confidence in knowing that your drunken compatriot is having more fun with creative banter than tuning and driving his car. That is not such a bad thing though. Order another beer and go with it. I will bet you can come up with something better.

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[docsr]

Harshal, congratulations on your purchase of your dream vehicle.your review is extremely detailed and is truly a work of love!
I was curious about the buying process in general in the US.... is there no discussion for discounts/freebies etc as with our local dealers here in India? Is the process that you have gone through specific for the Tesla or is it the same for all vehicles? Are EVs taxed differently that ICE cars in the US as well?

[51morris]

Originally Posted by Harshal.Bhosale

I like this picture for what it represents. This is the home of Henry Ford in Dearborn, Michigan, right behind my university campus (see "Fair Lane", Home of Henry and Clara Ford). The Model 3 represents the very same paradigm shift that Henry Ford brought about to the nascent automotive industry in the early 20th century. Horses to Petrol Cars = Petrol Cars to Electric. I like to think that the Model 3 is paying tribute to the man who started it all.


My favorite angle for this car - the rear three-quarter.
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Here's the story of how I ended up with this absolute stonking piece of machinery.

Hey Harshal,

Now that's what I call a review - my goodness! Took my own time to go through the whole thread and loved every bit of it. One of the best ownership reviews I have come across on this site. Brilliantly written and oozes passion for the car. Well done!

The first picture of the car is simply the best start to the thread. What a setting that is.. Tesla at the doorstep of old man Ford himself! Fantastic!

Cheers,
Praveen

[Harshal.Bhosale]

Originally Posted by skx007

This is an incredible review Harshal!!

I've always been fascinated with Tesla's and your review answers so many questions and doubts I've had about them. I have never read a more comprehensive, yet fascinating review in my life of any car. Pretty sure I'll be coming back to this review for years to come. Great job buddy and wishing the many happy miles in your incredible Saphira.

Being based in the Middle-east (no not in UAE, unfortunately) I hope I can drive these babies soon. Keep us posted on all the updates bro.

Thanks for your kind words! I’m glad you said that, somewhere in my mind I intended this to be a review which people (including me) could come back to, to refer to something in the future.

Originally Posted by ShivrajG

Wow! This is not a thread it is like a hand book to Tesla.

Thank you! Yes the intent was similar.

Originally Posted by SreeT

Just a small correction: The Guilia Quadrifoglio isn't available in AWD. Only the Stelvio Quadrifoglio is available in AWD. And it's also (thankfully) not based on Fiat's architecture. From the 8C onwards, Alfa Romeo went back to their roots of making driver's cars, thus they are not stunning looking front wheel drive Fiats anymore. Which is evidenced by the fact that none of the Giulia variants are available in FWD!

Thanks for that - learnt something new today! One of my acquaintances has a Quadrifoglio, which I hadn’t ridden in, but one of my friends has an AWD Giulia Sport, and I somehow got confused between the two.

Originally Posted by turbowhistle

What a fantabulous review, you know your stuff Dude! The details are amazingly written and I felt like I was reading an official review on T-BHP ( This should be made the official review for Model 3 otherwise )

The car looks amazing in that shade and am pretty sure it will serve you well for countless miles. Kudos on that plate as well, wish India had an option to get custom plates like this. It has so many practical as well as party tricks which can keep us nerds happy for long time. Although Tesla is not my favourite carmaker, I have tremendous respect for the company the way they have stepped up to the big manufacturers. The only grouse I have right now is the prices seems a bit high in Europe compared to US, which is same for Apple as well. A similarly specced Model 3 is around 53k euros which is around 62K USD

While looking at your Youtube vidoes, I saw you took it to the track as well. Can you describe your overall experience please? Is it worth taking your daily to the track or is it better to rent something good at track? I am contemplating taking my Cooper S to track but not sure if it's such a good idea.

I read your review as well, great job! Yeah the number plate thing in the US is pretty neat, I agree.

The prices do need to come further down, I guess with Gigafactory Berlin and its associated localized production and logistics costs, the prices will get lower. Plus it seems Elon wants to see this happen, he constantly says every chance he gets that their vehicles need to be more affordable - I feel the FSD and other software packages will provide them the margin in the future while the car will be sold close to at-cost.

Tracking the Model 3 is a tremendously fun endeavor - I was too scared to do it in the first year, it being my daily driver and all. Finally my colleague (whose Miata convertible you see in my video) convinced me to get out on the track and I must say, I wish I had done it sooner!

I’m not sure how it works in Europe (at least in the US I haven’t seen racetracks that allow you to rent a car to drive ferociously out on the track), but I can’t imagine that you’d have a good experience in a rented car on a track. Not to mention it would be severely expensive to rent a car for the track, and for regular rentals I’ve heard that if Hertz/Avis etc even get a whiff of you having been in the Nurburgring region in Germany, they fine you obnoxiously. I’m pretty sure you’ll enjoy tracking your own car - you don’t necessarily have to flog it to death, just enjoy driving it as fast as you’re comfortable, within the limits of wear and tear you would want to put - chiefly it is tires and brakes, so investing in a set of separate brake pads and tires is a good idea.

For most people, just having a spare set of wheels (meaning 4 extra alloys with mounted tires) is enough - just swap them out the morning of your track day and swap back to your regular wheels when done! My colleague does that on his Miata everytime - hardly takes him 15 minutes to do each time. I’m considering the same.

Originally Posted by Jabber

Beautifully detailed review Harshal.Bhosale. I especially liked the way you explained the powertrain

Wish you a loads of miles on your car. The mention of Somerset mall, Troy, MI brought back great memories.

Thank you, and yeah being a powertrain guy myself, I should be able to cover that portion well, hopefully - thanks for the confirmation!

Originally Posted by extreme_torque

I so envy you! I started a bit late, only started couple of months back late! I wish I had the foresight or the same knowledge about the company that I have now and I would have at-least quadrupled my stock in a year. Sigh.

Oh don’t even get me started (I sold quite a bit during Cybertruck unveil thinking “the stock can’t possibly go up after this stupid shit can it?” ) Luckily I bought back in during the first week of March after Covid crashed the market.

Originally Posted by vj123

Thats a great comprehensive review of your vehicle and the whole experience. Its nice to see more Teslas in our state.



We took pictures at the same location when we had tBHP meet last fall and here is the link to those posts - https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/team-...ml#post4683676

I see that you went to U of M as well, Go Blue.

Nice, just went through the thread - put me down for future meets!

Originally Posted by adhisk

This is THE most detailed TM3 review I have seen till now! Kudos to you sir! A friend of mine has a black LR w optional wheels and having driven it extensively, I am sure our next car is going to be a Tesla! This thread is going to be an amazing reference point when the time comes and our lease is up. BTW, it made me so happy that you mentioned Somerset and Troy because I live 2 miles away from there! Thank you so much for the awesome read!

This is pretty much why I went into so much detail - hopefully help others when they inevitably buy a Tesla (I still see a strong growth potential for Tesla in many countries). Are you thinking Model 3 or Model Y? Keep checking the existing inventory pages, sometimes there are cars with <1000 or <5000 miles being sold brand new with the full warranty etc for significant discounts, such as customer-returned cars or Test-drive vehicles from the showrooms.

Originally Posted by extreme_torque

For anyone wondering why Tesla does not spend anything on marketing or that why dont they have a PR department, this thread is a perfect example. The extremely happy owners.

Hahaha correct-o! Who needs marketing when there’s such enormous word-of-mouth publicity! I understand their philosophy of spending every available cent of profit back into making their products and manufacturing system better and better, and letting their products do the talking.

Originally Posted by GTO

Harshal, congratulations on owning the future of motoring . That is one incredible review & gives my own ownership thread a run for its money in terms of the detailing .

Thank you very much GTO. A comparison to your own thread is quite frankly, humbling - means a lot!

Originally Posted by GTO

Having driven many EVs now, I can tell you that Tesla tunes its electric powertrains the best. They are the most responsive, the most fun to push hard and offer the best range. I'll say that Tesla is 5 years ahead of even biggies like VW, Mercedes & others when it comes to EV tech.

I couldn’t agree more - 5 years ahead for sure - and I intimately know the powertrain development status of GM and Ford - having recently worked on test cell commissioning projects at the two as part of my day job, I got a chance to look at their future powertrain specs and hardware - the F150 electric and the GMC Hummer EV tri-motor setup. Can’t say much out here, but just the performance specs are enough to tell me that they won’t compete well with the Cybertruck on their own - not without dollops of marketing support and brand loyalty.

Originally Posted by v1p3r

Fantastic thread - your love for your car really shines through. I remember driving the P90D when it was launched and being blown away by its acceleration as well as the UI/UX. Can't wait to see these on Indian roads.

Thanks! Tesla gave me a P85D as a loaner for a week when I was getting my first windshield replacement via insurance (Don’t ask me why they needed an entire week to simply replace a windshield, I didn’t ask them either ), and it had the Insane Mode acceleration (named Ludicrous Mode in later model years) - it was, in a word - insane!! I’ll probably make a separate thread on it some time, it was an interesting experience but I just couldn’t see myself in such a huge car for a longer time - I only wish the Model 3 could get all the good stuff from the Model S, like the sexy (new, post 2017) front end, the sliding sunroof, and the Ludicrous acceleration mode. And maybe a hatchback like the Model S and Y, but that would call for an entire redesign of the 3-box chassis Lol.

Originally Posted by carthick1000

That is a very long write up. It took me 2 evenings to even read it. I don't know how long you took to compile it. Btw, I do own a Model 3 SR+ here in the Netherlands. Nice to see such a detailed review. I will bookmark this review, just in case if I need to refer to some details on the features on the cars. Even the Tesla user manual is not so detailed.

Yep, took me many months to put it all together - could’ve been quite faster if I had realized early on that I could fit 15 posts on one page and not just 10, meaning I didn’t have to all the photoshopping / collaging of multiple images and the associated procrastination haha.

Originally Posted by Harshal.Bhosale

Review Part 6 - Energy Consumption & Charging + Smaller yet Significant things + Accessories + Concluding thoughts
....

If you've made it this far into this thread, congratulations and thank you. It took me the better part of one and a half years to finally get it ready (factors contributing to this long timeline included laziness and an OCD for detail leading to project creep. Oh and life happened - I also got married in between).

Originally Posted by carthick1000

The separate lower control arms with 2 mounting points to the upright is not unique. If you see most German cars (my experience is with BMW) and some Japanese cars with McPherson type suspension at front, you can see this type of construction. Also it is an engineering principle (If you are an automotive engineer, you might know the Vehicle dynamics books of Genta and Milliken & Milliken) to have two lower control arms (culminating at two points on the upright lower part to have an imaginary lower pivot point further outside of the upright) inorder to have control over the Scrub radius. Instead of me writing about it, I like this article of Roger Jackman (HR springs) who explain this crisply in 1 page:

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This was a brilliant read! Thanks for sharing, and you’re right, it makes sense to have the two mounting locations create a virtual intersection point further “inside” the knuckle, achieving a bigger scrub radius without impacting the camber and steering geometry. However, I’m still wondering what it is that causes the Model 3’s turning radius to be so large.


Speaking of Milliken and Milliken, you took me right back to second-year engineering, the nights spent pouring over Milliken and Milliken (Race Car Vehicle Dynamics) trying to understand bump steer or scrub radius or other such concepts! We used to adjust our caster/camber/toe all the time, rotating the ball joints in and out one turn at at time, in sync, hoping to fine-tune the suspension for that perfect jounce-rebound travel and perfect steering feedback!

In fact, since you brought up the gentlemen, that takes me down another memory lane (summer of 2018) when I attended a presentation by Douglas Milliken, of RCVD fame. I met him outside the venue afterwards, and took this picture while he was explaining to me why the rear bumper of his car was inside his trunk!

Originally Posted by docsr

Harshal, congratulations on your purchase of your dream vehicle.your review is extremely detailed and is truly a work of love!
I was curious about the buying process in general in the US.... is there no discussion for discounts/freebies etc as with our local dealers here in India? Is the process that you have gone through specific for the Tesla or is it the same for all vehicles? Are EVs taxed differently that ICE cars in the US as well?

Hey thank you! So the buying process for Tesla is pretty much direct like I mentioned - no haggling, just place your order online through the website. The discounts offered to me were pretty much a one-time thing (due to end-of-quarter sales push, although sometimes test-drive cars from showrooms etc are sometimes also sold with similar discounts), and the price is all decided by Tesla corporate - what you see on the website is what you pay, be it the brand new orders that you place or the “existing inventory” section which allows you to view cars in local Tesla stores. Also, the sales guy has no say in the pricing. And they aren’t even paid sales-based commission from what I hear, although Tesla is tight-lipped about the compensation structure for their sales team - but what that means is no pesky calls / aggressive pitches to buy from them, it is a very pleasant interaction every time.

As for taxation, the sales tax varies by state, and is uniform for all purchases - vehicles to a small carton of milk (flat-rate GST if you will). In Michigan, the rate is a flat 6% for all cars, be it petrol or electric. No state tax rebate for buying an EV. In other states, I’m not so sure, but NJ and California have some tax rebates / direct discounts of some kind for EVs.

Originally Posted by 51morris

Hey Harshal,

Now that's what I call a review - my goodness! Took my own time to go through the whole thread and loved every bit of it. One of the best ownership reviews I have come across on this site. Brilliantly written and oozes passion for the car. Well done!

The first picture of the car is simply the best start to the thread. What a setting that is.. Tesla at the doorstep of old man Ford himself! Fantastic!

Cheers,
Praveen

Thanks! Yes it seemed very poetic to take a picture there, I had the caption in mind even as I clicked the picture hehe.

[turbowhistle]

Originally Posted by Harshal.Bhosale

I’m not sure how it works in Europe (at least in the US I haven’t seen racetracks that allow you to rent a car to drive ferociously out on the track), but I can’t imagine that you’d have a good experience in a rented car on a track. Not to mention it would be severely expensive to rent a car for the track, and for regular rentals I’ve heard that if Hertz/Avis etc even get a whiff of you having been in the Nurburgring region in Germany, they fine you obnoxiously. I’m pretty sure you’ll enjoy tracking your own car - you don’t necessarily have to flog it to death, just enjoy driving it as fast as you’re comfortable, within the limits of wear and tear you would want to put - chiefly it is tires and brakes, so investing in a set of separate brake pads and tires is a good idea.

For most people, just having a spare set of wheels (meaning 4 extra alloys with mounted tires) is enough - just swap them out the morning of your track day and swap back to your regular wheels when done! My colleague does that on his Miata everytime - hardly takes him 15 minutes to do each time. I’m considering the same.

I must thank you for a very elaborate response brother. There are some tracks around Berlin who let you drive a 911 or Huracan for 2-4 laps which costs around 400 euros. That's neat for a birthday or anniversary celebration! I had this in my mind when I asked. I have read some funny stories about people tracking Hertz car so won't attempt that
Thanks to Autobahns, I am not look at top speeds so just looking for pure fun. I have a hunch that Mini is going to enjoy the track day.

Also, I just realised I had retained my perfectly fine summer tyres when I switched to All-Season shoes and they are still in my Cellar. I just need to find a deal on used alloys and that should suffice for now. Will check for brake pads when I go for next oil change.

[carthick1000]

Originally Posted by Harshal.Bhosale

However, I’m still wondering what it is that causes the Model 3’s turning radius to be so large.

Packaging. Model 3 is deliberately designed to be a modular platform to accommodate single motor RWD and dual motor AWD versions in the same chassis design. This means, Tesla has to leave room for the front motor mounting and all related peripherals. This limits the maximum steering angle, which in turn affects the turning, which is about 11.8m (BMW 3 series latest gen has about 11.4m)

On the other hand, cars like bmw i3 and honda e, which are designed and packaged to be only RWD models do have a turning radius advantage. BMW i3 has a turn radius of about 9.9m. But Honda e takes the cake for EVs at about 8.6m turning radius. That is almost 45degrees of steering angle.

Trivia: The London Taxi's TX4 has the best turning radius for road going cars at 8.52m. It is a front engine RWD configuration.

[Harshal.Bhosale]

Originally Posted by turbowhistle

I must thank you for a very elaborate response brother. There are some tracks around Berlin who let you drive a 911 or Huracan for 2-4 laps which costs around 400 euros. That's neat for a birthday or anniversary celebration! I had this in my mind when I asked. I have read some funny stories about people tracking Hertz car so won't attempt that
Thanks to Autobahns, I am not look at top speeds so just looking for pure fun. I have a hunch that Mini is going to enjoy the track day.

Also, I just realised I had retained my perfectly fine summer tyres when I switched to All-Season shoes and they are still in my Cellar. I just need to find a deal on used alloys and that should suffice for now. Will check for brake pads when I go for next oil change.

Gotcha. I know of many tracks in the USA offering such supercar experiences as well, but reading about them (probably on TBHP itself), it seems for your $200-300 all you get is two or three laps of the track with a safety instructor by your side at all times, with you trying to tame a 500hp+ monster that you're completely unfamiliar with, while gingerly pressing on the accelerator and doing your best to memorize the lines of the track. It'll be over before you know it.

Like you said, best for a one-time anniversary or birthday celebration gift.

I love track days for the sheer thrill of dancing on the edge of grip, tires and tarmac conspiring with your steering and pedal inputs to play with the limits of physics! This can only be done if you're tracking your own car, and however slow/fast it may be, for a well-balanced sporty car, threading that fine gap between life and death is what makes it such an adrenaline rush! Sustained lap after lap after lap, hopefully with multiple sessions in a day (at least that's the format followed in the US for track-day events)! Then the lap times don't matter; the 0-60 or 0-100 timings don't matter; all that matters is the grin plastered on your face as you whip around in your seat this way and that, tires squealing all the way......!

Originally Posted by carthick1000

Packaging. Model 3 is deliberately designed to be a modular platform to accommodate single motor RWD and dual motor AWD versions in the same chassis design. This means, Tesla has to leave room for the front motor mounting and all related peripherals. This limits the maximum steering angle, which in turn affects the turning, which is about 11.8m (BMW 3 series latest gen has about 11.4m)

On the other hand, cars like bmw i3 and honda e, which are designed and packaged to be only RWD models do have a turning radius advantage. BMW i3 has a turn radius of about 9.9m. But Honda e takes the cake for EVs at about 8.6m turning radius. That is almost 45degrees of steering angle.

Trivia: The London Taxi's TX4 has the best turning radius for road going cars at 8.52m. It is a front engine RWD configuration.

That makes sense. Only so much room in the wheel wells, when you have the front K-frame limiting the suspension mounting points.

[Aditya]

Exceptional, unbiased & detailed reviews of cars that don't have an official review have started going to our homepage reviews box. It's the ultimate stamp of trust from Team-BHP (as a platform) because lakhs of visitors every month check out reviews from there & make purchase decisions.

Your review has also gone here. Thank you so much for sharing .

[Harshal.Bhosale]

Originally Posted by Aditya

Exceptional, unbiased & detailed reviews of cars that don't have an official review have started going to our homepage reviews box. It's the ultimate stamp of trust from Team-BHP (as a platform) because lakhs of visitors every month check out reviews from there & make purchase decisions.

Your review has also gone here. Thank you so much for sharing .

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WHOA. Just..... whoa!!

This means a lot to me - I couldn’t think of a greater honor on this platform than being lumped in with the official Team-BHP reviews! Like you said, this is the ultimate stamp of trust and validation from the T-BHP platform, and I am humbled at having received it. Thank you!

[GTO]

Originally Posted by Harshal.Bhosale

This means a lot to me - I couldn’t think of a greater honor on this platform than being lumped in with the official Team-BHP reviews!

Now that Tesla is entering India, your ownership review is especially important . It's almost certain that the Model 3 - already available in RHD - will be part of their offerings out here.

[Venkatesh]

Tesla Model 3 was UK’s best selling car in December. Almost 6000 examples of the EV were registered, beating the Volkswagen Golf by more than 1000



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