The Light and Small Commercial Vehicle Thread

kadri007 · 9th January 2010, 18:04

Saw a new Force Motors SCV called Trump seems to be bigger than earlier models

fx45 · 9th January 2010, 19:01

yes i saw this new FOrce today too at Matunga Mumbai, looks good, fit and finish levels also seem to be improved, this is almost same size and wheelbase as HMs RTV (hope people remember RTV..

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raj_5004 · 9th January 2010, 19:15

hey guys i thought i should share this here too-

Mahindra Maxximo | Powered by 1st 2 cylinder C2 CRDe engine

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interesting features i noticed-
1) 2 cylinder CRDe engine
2) nice dashboard
3) drive by wire accelerator!!!
4) DOHC tech
5) independent front suspension with Mcpherson struts, no outdated leaf springs!
6) dead pedal, even my scorpio doesnt have one!
7) car like handbrake
8) stylish instrument console
9) its crash tested too! video in website.

price not revealed but i expect it to be in the range of 3-3.5 lakhs.

Trapezio · 9th January 2010, 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by raj_5004

hey guys i thought i should share this here too-

Mahindra Maxximo | Powered by 1st 2 cylinder C2 CRDe engine

Does this site work?

Also, the Ace 2010 is already released in selected ares. Its promotions has not started on a national level.

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 10th January 2010, 01:58

Kadri - the Trump was mentioned few pages back.

raj_5004 · 10th January 2010, 10:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trapezio

Does this site work?

Also, the Ace 2010 is already released in selected ares. Its promotions has not started on a national level.

its working in my browser buddy.

also, i have heard the Ace 2010 has a front end like the new tata venture & has a 1 ton payload capacity as opposed to 0.8 tons of the present ace.

teamveevee · 12th January 2010, 00:26

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

i have heard the Ace 2010 has a front end like the new tata venture & has a 1 ton payload capacity as opposed to 0.8 tons of the present ace.

Super ACE 1.0 ton is a new product, sold along with ACE 0.8. Venture is based on Super ACE.

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Originally Posted by pypkmsrikanth

Tata has made a comeback in MTC Chennai. Yesterday I saw a Tata - Marcopolo bus SLF bus under the JNURM scheme plying on the C70 route, will try to capture a pic one of these days.

As per the news paper reports earlier, MTC(or is it including Coimbatore?) will be getting 1000 AL and 500 TM buses per JNNURM.

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Originally Posted by santoshnair

the ibus 2 a rapid intervention vehicle

Interestingly it looks like the bus is made by Alma Motors. Whom should we give credit for this beautiful bus?

raj_5004 · 13th January 2010, 12:37

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Originally Posted by teamveevee

Super ACE 1.0 ton is a new product, sold along with ACE 0.8. Venture is based on Super ACE.

Ohh, so its the other way round! thanks.

amit V8 · 13th January 2010, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by raj_5004

also, i have heard the Ace 2010 has a front end like the new tata venture & has a 1 ton payload capacity as opposed to 0.8 tons of the present ace.

Quote:

Originally Posted by teamveevee

Super ACE 1.0 ton is a new product, sold along with ACE 0.8. Venture is based on Super ACE.

this link explains the difference-

www.indiaautomotive.net/2009/09/tata-motors-i...

also the new piaggio ape truk plus unveiled at the AE 2010 to compete with the tata ace 1 ton.

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source-MOTORINDIA ONLINE EDITION: Piaggio launches one-tonner Ape Truk Plus

Finject · 14th January 2010, 15:34

The Maxximo excites me a lot. The engine is far superior than any other in its segment. Mahindra claims that this is the first of its kind C2 CRDe engine in its segment. This means that the Maxximo will be more powerful than the Ace or other players in the LCV segment. Definately much better than the 3 wheeled ones on the road. I see this working pretty well in the market. Considering that Tata Ace dominates almost 90% of the market share, it would be interesting to see how much the Maxximo is able to eatup.

The website works fine in my browser and I must say I am surprised and stunned to find such a well designed website for a CV. Mahindra has definitely taken this aspect of designing seriously atleast

indianchiefrsd · 25th January 2010, 17:42

Since the Maxximo, The Trump and the Ace are covered lets see some more.

I have collected each of the Pictures from an Article in the December Issue of BS Motoring. I am also Attaching an excel file with the difference in specs of the Maxximo, Ace and Force M4 Super which is something I posted in one of my other threads except that I have added the Force M4 super to the comparison as well.

Why BS Motoring, cos they did a nice writeup explaining the segment to the avg man like my self and I think it makes for an Interesting read though its not exactly detailed.

Which is why I worked out the Excel file which will follow in my next post.

Some of the data isn't complete and that's cos Force decided that there website was for other things and not to give all the Information on the products they make and sell.

Read Away.

First is the Force then Followed by the Mahindra's (not included the Maxximo since its already in the Thread). Then followed by the Piaggio.

indianchiefrsd · 25th January 2010, 17:52

Mods sorry for the back to back posts.

Okay now we have the Piaggio Continued followed by the TATA Magic.

The Excel is also attached as promised.

kadri007 · 25th January 2010, 18:23

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Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR

Kadri - the Trump was mentioned few pages back.

The older Trump from Force is called Trump 15, its a 790 Kg payload. It just looks like M4.

But the new Trump is called Trump 40, its much bigger than the earlier model and has 1100 Kg payload.

indianchiefrsd · 25th January 2010, 18:51

Right you are Kadri, the Bolero Maxxi truck and the TATA super Ace will I believe compete with the trump 40 in the category for the 1+ tonne category.

The Bolero as the car won an award in consumer satisfaction as conducted by the TNS Automotive Survey. Considering the sales figs and the fact that the Bolero Maxxi truck has the same engine. Any Idea as to which is the better amongst the 3. I am leaning towards the Ace just by the sheer number I see in Mumbai but I may be wrong, hence the question

kadri007 · 25th January 2010, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by indianchiefrsd

Right you are Kadri, the Bolero Maxxi truck and the TATA super Ace will I believe compete with the trump 40 in the category for the 1+ tonne category. Any Idea as to which is the better amongst the 3. I am leaning towards the Ace just by the sheer number I see in Mumbai but I may be wrong, hence the question

I think Tata Ace Super and Force Trump 40 are very new to market and in Bangalore at least they are not in good numbers. I saw only 1 Trump 40 till now.

Also Trump has one more strong competitor , the Ape Truk Plus which was launched few months back.

Also I saw a few Premier Roadstar in Mangalore. Seems to have picked up in few places.

Now customers have got some good choices including the recent Mahindra Maxximo.

I think it will take some time for everyone to prove. But truly the SCV (Small Commercial Vehicle) segment has become hot and exciting.

9th January 2010, 18:04	#1
kadri007 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore/Mangalore Posts: 433 Thanked: 7 Times	The Light and Small Commercial Vehicle Thread Saw a new Force Motors SCV called Trump seems to be bigger than earlier models Attached Thumbnails
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9th January 2010, 19:01	#2
fx45 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,823 Thanked: 386 Times	yes i saw this new FOrce today too at Matunga Mumbai, looks good, fit and finish levels also seem to be improved, this is almost same size and wheelbase as HMs RTV (hope people remember RTV.. )
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9th January 2010, 19:15	#3
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,241 Thanked: 3,164 Times	hey guys i thought i should share this here too- Mahindra Maxximo \| Powered by 1st 2 cylinder C2 CRDe engine interesting features i noticed- 1) 2 cylinder CRDe engine 2) nice dashboard 3) drive by wire accelerator!!! 4) DOHC tech 5) independent front suspension with Mcpherson struts, no outdated leaf springs! 6) dead pedal, even my scorpio doesnt have one! 7) car like handbrake 8) stylish instrument console 9) its crash tested too! video in website. price not revealed but i expect it to be in the range of 3-3.5 lakhs.
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10th January 2010, 01:58	#5
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,541 Thanked: 758 Times	Kadri - the Trump was mentioned few pages back.
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14th January 2010, 15:34	#10
Finject BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 99 Thanked: Once	The Maxximo excites me a lot. The engine is far superior than any other in its segment. Mahindra claims that this is the first of its kind C2 CRDe engine in its segment. This means that the Maxximo will be more powerful than the Ace or other players in the LCV segment. Definately much better than the 3 wheeled ones on the road. I see this working pretty well in the market. Considering that Tata Ace dominates almost 90% of the market share, it would be interesting to see how much the Maxximo is able to eatup. The website works fine in my browser and I must say I am surprised and stunned to find such a well designed website for a CV. Mahindra has definitely taken this aspect of designing seriously atleast
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25th January 2010, 17:42	#11
indianchiefrsd BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 74 Thanked: 0 Times	A break Up of the Various players in the segment. Since the Maxximo, The Trump and the Ace are covered lets see some more. I have collected each of the Pictures from an Article in the December Issue of BS Motoring. I am also Attaching an excel file with the difference in specs of the Maxximo, Ace and Force M4 Super which is something I posted in one of my other threads except that I have added the Force M4 super to the comparison as well. Why BS Motoring, cos they did a nice writeup explaining the segment to the avg man like my self and I think it makes for an Interesting read though its not exactly detailed. Which is why I worked out the Excel file which will follow in my next post. Some of the data isn't complete and that's cos Force decided that there website was for other things and not to give all the Information on the products they make and sell. Read Away. First is the Force then Followed by the Mahindra's (not included the Maxximo since its already in the Thread). Then followed by the Piaggio. Attached Thumbnails
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25th January 2010, 18:51	#14
indianchiefrsd BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 74 Thanked: 0 Times	Right you are Kadri, the Bolero Maxxi truck and the TATA super Ace will I believe compete with the trump 40 in the category for the 1+ tonne category. The Bolero as the car won an award in consumer satisfaction as conducted by the TNS Automotive Survey. Considering the sales figs and the fact that the Bolero Maxxi truck has the same engine. Any Idea as to which is the better amongst the 3. I am leaning towards the Ace just by the sheer number I see in Mumbai but I may be wrong, hence the question
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