The Heavy Trucks thread

urzdeepu · 13th March 2011, 08:49

Here are two trucks that i saw recently.

One is an Artik 3516 with ABS. My question is does these trucks now come with ABS? heard that trailers should be equipped with ABS.
An Ecomet with a modified cabin which serves the purpose of an Air catering vehicle . Cabin has been beautifully cut to make it a single seater.

amit V8 · 15th March 2011, 01:27

the above is a AL 3516. 3516 = 35ton 160/165bhp. H = Hino series engine. 6DTi = 6 speed tranny.

ABS is probably the name of the coach maker...these trucks are never fitted with abs.

Ashley2 · 15th March 2011, 08:16

[quote=urzdeepu;2276095]Here are two trucks that i saw recently.

One is an Artik 3516 with ABS. My question is does these trucks now come with ABS? heard that trailers should be equipped with ABS/quote]

All tractors are fitted with ABS since April 2007.This includes rigids also if they carry hazardous goods.

SAE40 in veins · 16th March 2011, 21:12

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Originally Posted by amit V8

the above is a AL 3516. 3516 = 35ton 160/165bhp. H = Hino series engine. 6DTi = 6 speed tranny.

6 in 6DTI surely stands for 6 cylinders as 4CTI stands for the 4 cylinder W 04 derived Hino Engines. My doubt was the diffrence between ETI and DTI as these nomenclatures are found in vehicles with 5 speed trannys also. IMHO It sure has something to do with the cylinder head design or the type of fuel pump used(Inline , Distributor etc).

amit V8 · 18th March 2011, 01:11

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Originally Posted by urzdeepu

Here are two trucks that i saw recently.

One is an Artik 3516 with ABS. My question is does these trucks now come with ABS? heard that trailers should be equipped with ABS/quote]

All tractors are fitted with ABS since April 2007.This includes rigids also if they carry hazardous goods.

ABS stands for Anti lock brakes..right? my question is does these old models (excluding AL U series, TATA prima etc) come fitted with power brakes to accommodate abs?

here is the entire specification of the cab version of the 3516H tractor. there is no abs written.
Ashok Leyland 3516 H Review, Ashok Leyland 3516 H Price Quote , Finance Ashok Leyland 3516 H, Comparison, Insurance - Automotive at MaxAbout.com

Ashley2 · 18th March 2011, 08:18

[quote=amit V8;2282794]

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Originally Posted by Ashley2

ABS stands for Anti lock brakes..right? my question is does these old models (excluding AL U series, TATA prima etc) come fitted with power brakes to accommodate abs?

here is the entire specification of the cab version of the 3516H tractor. there is no abs written.
Ashok Leyland 3516 H Review, Ashok Leyland 3516 H Price Quote , Finance Ashok Leyland 3516 H, Comparison, Insurance - Automotive at MaxAbout.com

ABS stands for Antilock Brake System.
The review is very old and its not fully updated also.
I am not able to guess the model of the tractor with registeration number. If its post 2007 its sure will have ABS.
BTW not only U-Trukcs and Prima all other tractors also have ABS.

SAE40 in veins · 18th March 2011, 10:48

To add a little more to ABS. 'Antilock braking system' is a new convenient expansion for ABS and originally it stood for 'Antiblockier system' - The german for 'Antilock Braking system'

Ashley2 · 22nd March 2011, 22:04

Seems that Scania is pulling out of JV with L&T. Their plan of setting up a plant in India is almost withdrawn.
Source : MotorIndia

julupani · 23rd March 2011, 07:14

Well, they may withdraw from the JV, but I doubt any CV maker would like to miss out on the pie of selling trucks in India for the next 2 decades.

Ashley2 · 26th March 2011, 23:07

Al - 2516 - Rmc

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Ashley2 · 26th March 2011, 23:58

THis had twin diesel tanks located one on each side. Total of 700 litres (400+300)

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ranjithrnath · 27th March 2011, 01:37

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THis had twin diesel tanks located one on each side. Total of 700 litres (400+300)

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The exhaust pipe is placed pretty close to the diesel tank. Isn't that dangerous? Especially chances of a fire in the long run due to the high temperature of gases from the engine

julupani · 27th March 2011, 07:12

Surprised somebody actually went for the extra-fuel tank on the standard Tata trucks. He also has gone in for radials on the rear tyres, along with single piece wheels I think. He also has retained the company supplied mud-flaps, which is rare on a chassis built truck.

Ashley2 · 28th March 2011, 09:18

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Originally Posted by ranjithrnath

The exhaust pipe is placed pretty close to the diesel tank. Isn't that dangerous? Especially chances of a fire in the long run due to the high temperature of gases from the engine

This is a common sceanrio in recent trucks.

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Originally Posted by julupani

Surprised somebody actually went for the extra-fuel tank on the standard Tata trucks. He also has gone in for radials on the rear tyres, along with single piece wheels I think. He also has retained the company supplied mud-flaps, which is rare on a chassis built truck.

I have seen brand new trucks even when taken for registration will have twin diesel tanks. I have seen 600+450 litres. The fuel line is taken from only actual tank and the fule is pumped from the auxillary tank to main tank using a fuel pump.

julupani · 28th March 2011, 16:43

The extra tanks that you see on these trucks are optional fitments available on most Tata trucks, so obviously they will have such a tank fixed when they go in for registration itself.

Whenever there is a secondary tank, it is used as an auxiliary tank only. Two separate fuel lines, one from each tank is not used.

There is no danger at all to running the exhaust pipe close to the fuel tanks at all. Fuel will need to rise to very high temperatures indeed to light inside the fuel tank. Exhaust gases in the exhaust pipe are already losing most of their energy to the atmosphere, and thus are not that hot at all.

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urzdeepu BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Thrissur Posts: 188 Thanked: 108 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread Here are two trucks that i saw recently. One is an Artik 3516 with ABS. My question is does these trucks now come with ABS? heard that trailers should be equipped with ABS. An Ecomet with a modified cabin which serves the purpose of an Air catering vehicle . Cabin has been beautifully cut to make it a single seater. Attached Thumbnails
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15th March 2011, 01:27	#482
amit V8 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: kolkata Posts: 1,070 Thanked: 217 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread the above is a AL 3516. 3516 = 35ton 160/165bhp. H = Hino series engine. 6DTi = 6 speed tranny. ABS is probably the name of the coach maker...these trucks are never fitted with abs.
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15th March 2011, 08:16	#483
Ashley2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NH7 Posts: 2,115 Thanked: 1,524 Times View My Garage	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread [quote=urzdeepu;2276095]Here are two trucks that i saw recently. One is an Artik 3516 with ABS. My question is does these trucks now come with ABS? heard that trailers should be equipped with ABS/quote] All tractors are fitted with ABS since April 2007.This includes rigids also if they carry hazardous goods.
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18th March 2011, 10:48	#487
SAE40 in veins BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 246 Thanked: 266 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread To add a little more to ABS. 'Antilock braking system' is a new convenient expansion for ABS and originally it stood for 'Antiblockier system' - The german for 'Antilock Braking system'
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22nd March 2011, 22:04	#488
Ashley2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NH7 Posts: 2,115 Thanked: 1,524 Times View My Garage	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread Seems that Scania is pulling out of JV with L&T. Their plan of setting up a plant in India is almost withdrawn. Source : MotorIndia
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23rd March 2011, 07:14	#489
julupani Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bhubaneswar Posts: 1,762 Thanked: 539 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread Well, they may withdraw from the JV, but I doubt any CV maker would like to miss out on the pie of selling trucks in India for the next 2 decades.
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26th March 2011, 23:07	#490
Ashley2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NH7 Posts: 2,115 Thanked: 1,524 Times View My Garage	Al - 2516 - Rmc Al - 2516 - Rmc
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26th March 2011, 23:58	#491
Ashley2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NH7 Posts: 2,115 Thanked: 1,524 Times View My Garage	Tata 2518 BSIII THis had twin diesel tanks located one on each side. Total of 700 litres (400+300)
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27th March 2011, 07:12	#493
julupani Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bhubaneswar Posts: 1,762 Thanked: 539 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread Surprised somebody actually went for the extra-fuel tank on the standard Tata trucks. He also has gone in for radials on the rear tyres, along with single piece wheels I think. He also has retained the company supplied mud-flaps, which is rare on a chassis built truck.
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28th March 2011, 16:43	#495
julupani Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bhubaneswar Posts: 1,762 Thanked: 539 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread The extra tanks that you see on these trucks are optional fitments available on most Tata trucks, so obviously they will have such a tank fixed when they go in for registration itself. Whenever there is a secondary tank, it is used as an auxiliary tank only. Two separate fuel lines, one from each tank is not used. There is no danger at all to running the exhaust pipe close to the fuel tanks at all. Fuel will need to rise to very high temperatures indeed to light inside the fuel tank. Exhaust gases in the exhaust pipe are already losing most of their energy to the atmosphere, and thus are not that hot at all.
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