[sajo]

The other Day I saw the Siddhi Vinayak transport Prima transporting some JCBs on its back. Looks very good and moves at a fair clip too.
So its not limited then to transport stuff for TMLs.

@Jeepster, that FM9 owned by HP used to be a fairly common site in around Pune earlier. It always used to seem fantastically clean and well driven compared to some of its brethren on the road.
I thought they operated a fleet of these, but I guess its only 1.

[Ashley2]

Originally Posted by chanu

I am astonished and impressed with the way the flat bed is constructed to accomodate three cabins and with proper way of arrangement.

The source of this design is from Lohr.
FInd details attached.
Lohr Eurolohr.pdf

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Ashley2

The source of this design is from Lohr.

Amazing design. Good to see these trailers in on Indian roads. Also thanks to our road infrastructure looking up. Such trailers couldnt have been a possibility in India without better infrastructure.

Thanks ashley2 for the pictures and details.

[jeepster]

some high resolution pictures taken from a PDF file at LOHR.

[Transsenger]

AL few days back received orders from VRL for 600 vehicles, in which 500 are the 3123 Multiaxle 8x2 truck with 230Hp CRS (Common rail system...i believe!) engine. This new model developed has 30.5feet loading span. With this AL is trying to repeat history, when earlier(2008-09) AL had launched 2518 with 32feet loading span, taking even TML by surprise. And it did take some time for TML to respond with their "LPT2515C XL". The AL2518 was an instant hit among FMCG transporters.

[prmd_cochin]

TATA 8X8 HMV trucks for the IA.

[Ashley2]

Originally Posted by Transsenger

.... This new model developed has 30.5feet loading span. With this AL is trying to repeat history, when earlier(2008-09) AL had launched 2518 with 32feet loading span, taking even TML by surprise. And it did take some time for TML to respond with their "LPT2515C
XL". The AL2518 was an instant hit among FMCG transporters.

Yes, 2518 has its own range of customers who carry bulk and voluminous goods. VRL is a huge respondent to this product and they have good numbers in their fleet too.
Coming to this 3123 - so far 31T rigid axle vehicles are main stay only in bulk cargos like cement, fly ash,coal and iron ore with their 24.5 feet load body.Now AL is clever enough to take this to another segment of cargos like white goods and market load which is requires more loading span - 30.5feet.
I think this should be a game changer in the 31Tonners.
Good move by AL!

[SirAlec]

Originally Posted by prmd_cochin

TATA 8X8 HMV trucks for the IA.

It looks beautiful. Any details on the specs. Is it made by TATA itself ?

[julupani]

Yes these are going to be made in India, by TML at its Jamshedpur plant. Some technicians will also be deployed for some time in Israel for purposes of inducting this vehicle for the Israeli Army. The other major tech spec is that these are powered by the 280hp cummins ISLE engine, with a future option of using other engines.

[SirAlec]

IMO 280hp is the lowest in the ISLE series. Does military vehicle needs to be Euro/Bharat complaints?

[Ashley2]

More truck carriers...

This time is from AL.

[Ashley2]

A SVLL - 4928 doing its duty in NH7.

[im_srini]

Originally Posted by Ashley2

A SVLL - 4928 doing its duty in NH7.

^
Quite a display in the rear window of that truck indeed Ashley, on a more serious note, why does the intake split & merge so many times before the filter ? Is there a functional need for all that complexity ? Or is it just for aesthetics ?

[julupani]

The SVVL tractor seems to have its downward view mirror removed, which is now mandatory for all tractor-trailers. Also you will notice SVVL have gone in for a secondary fuel tank on the left side of the trailer as well.

The complicated design of the intake, is to maintain proper flow patterns and velocities. As the air filter has been placed in the middle, the air intake require to take a few turns, making for a slightly complicated flow, requiring the splitting and merging. You can also see the different shapes of the vanes at the point of intake, they are not all horizontal, but at different angles.

In the ALL U truck, the auxiliary coolant tank seems so odd. It seems like they had forgotten to package it in and had to add it on at the last moment. Also I am surprised that ALL still provides nylon cross-ply tyres on its U trucks!! They should have moved completely to radials. It also seems like the axles are shared with their normal trucks. This is where the Prima differs from the U-trucks. You can see a lot of these small things which bring down the cost of the U-truck. The Prima share almost no parts, other than may be some fasteners etc, with the standard Tata trucks. Like Autocar India had put it in their test drive for the Prima 4028S, the Prima is a complete revolution in Indian trucking industry rather than an evolution. The U-truck is still an evolution, though a slightly big one.

[Ashley2]

Originally Posted by julupani

Also you will notice SVVL have gone in for a secondary fuel tank on the left side of the trailer as well.

Thats almost a common practice in many long haul vehicles.
I have seem tractors with fuel tank capacity upto 1150 - 400litres ( std fitment ) + 750 litres ( seperately added)

Originally Posted by julupani

In the ALL U truck, the auxiliary coolant tank seems so odd. It seems like they had forgotten to package it in and had to add it on at the last moment.

This is the convenient way of placing the auxillary coolant tank as this does not require to tilt the cabing for refilling. ANd this is not a "forgotten and added finally kit " this is the practice in ALL - take a look at 2516 RMC, Ecomets etc

Originally Posted by julupani

Also I am surprised that ALL still provides nylon cross-ply tyres on its U trucks!! They should have moved completely to radials.

Thats not a big problem.. Radials are still available as option.

Originally Posted by julupani

It also seems like the axles are shared with their normal trucks. This is where the Prima differs from the U-trucks. You can see a lot of these small things which bring down the cost of the U-truck....

No the axles are not shared with the regular models. They have a bigger track, bigger braker drums and even they are packed with silicon grease with which the service frequency is upto 40K KMS - one of the key aspects of U-trucks.

Originally Posted by julupani

The U-truck is still an evolution, though a slightly big one.

U- truck is the need of hour for ALL as well as Industry ( though I am not aganist Prima for its elusive design and taking the game altogether to different field)