Airplane Review (Boeing 747-400) by a Pilot : A first for Team-BHP!

Thad E Ginathom · 8th April 2009, 01:25

Thank goodness for something to help us "rise above" the Skoda debacle.

My attention to the rest of the site has been sadly lacking for some days. This thread is a breath of fresh air

delhi2009 · 8th April 2009, 02:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by palioman

Hey ,you don't have to be brilliant to be a pilot !
all you've got to do is pass your tenth, nowadays it's 12th..probably a graduate in science is a plus, but not necessary.
Qualification requirement 1. Lots of money for the lessons, though some flying clubs in India fudge on this.
2. An influential person to allow a window of opportunity..probably a father as captain or some honcho in the airlines or political connections.
A Commercial pilots license is the bare minimum accquired after 200 flying hours, earlier it was 250.
I hate to be a party pooper but, being a pilot does not, repeat ,does not require above average IQs..just average.
Before anyone flames me, I am qualified on the Boeing 777.
But I just loove cars, and bikes.

What one needs is ability to take decisions in times you're under most stress and make sure those decisions let you stay alive ! Take for example the case of Air Transat Flight 236 (Air Transat Flight 236 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) , A wrong Human decision to use cross-feed caused the whole issue and a Captain who was able to handle the situation effectively despite being in enormous stress of loosing his and all the souls aboard changed the whole equation. So while one may not need above average IQ, one does need to be a person who can effectively handle such stress situations !

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 8th April 2009, 09:09

Hey this is a great thread. I wanted to be a pilot, never got around to actually doing it (I am trying to patao my younger son now). I guess that justifies my profession as a vehicle development and professional vehicle test engineer. I drive instead of fly. The 747 is my favourite airplane due to its distinctive upper deck shape and sheer size and whenever I am sitting in the lounge of Mumbai airport (my work involves travelling so I get this opportunity), I always make it a point to sit facing the runway and try and see as many 747s as possible taking off or landing. There seem to be too few of them left these days. I often see a "Saudia" aircraft in the mornings though.

I would love to get a photograph taken from inside the cockpit of the 747 when it is landing at Mumbai airport. I hope flyboy747 can provide it.

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

revtech · 8th April 2009, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by delhi2009

What one needs is ability to take decisions in times you're under most stress and make sure those decisions let you stay alive !

Couldn't agree more.its quick decision making and effective CRM that helps in situations out of the ordinary.some times even something routine may turn out to be ugly with a series of wrong decisions.

rev

im_srini · 8th April 2009, 12:38

Wow ! A 747 pilot on the forum !

Quote:

Originally Posted by delhi2009

Please check the attached pictures and tell me and all other Flight Simulator enthusiasts how close are they to a real cockpit. And the 2 similar photos are B777-300 Panel and Overhead (Have just learnt to start the beast and still learning to use FMC and enter all the flight data!!!)

Hi Delhi2009, the 2 panels you've posted (first 2 pics), are they from PMDG ?

SkyCougar · 8th April 2009, 12:39

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I would love to get a photograph taken from inside the cockpit of the 747 when it is landing at Mumbai airport. I hope flyboy747 can provide it.

Hey who's flying then if the pilot gets busy snapping. Jokes apart, wonder if you have seen the AN - 224 or the C 5 Galaxy flying or landing. It's all about the SIZE!

DKG · 8th April 2009, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyboy747

As one of my first instructors had told me – never let an airplane take you to a place where your mind has not gone 5 minutes before..

Wow golden words of wisdom !!

Quote:

A Boeing is more fun to fly.

A pilot friend says the same thing

BTW do check out:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifti...-together.html

abhisheksircar · 9th April 2009, 11:21

Before opening the thread I was wondering what could the Boeing be a metaphor for. Little did I ever thing that it was ACTUALLY a Boeing review.

But ofcourse a first in team-bhp. Thanks for sharing.

hillram · 9th April 2009, 11:42

All the flying i was done is a 3 hour flight with my instructor on a Cessna Single Propeller plane into the Tasman Bay in Australia.
This Boeing review is good,however I feel flying a Airbus is a different experiance.

sandeep.mishra · 9th April 2009, 13:27

For those who always wanted to become a Pilot but couldnt, go for the MS Flight Simulator Deluxe version. I purchased a deluxe edition recently which costs around 2k and am immensely satisfied with the investment. From Cessna to Boeing 747's, you have the options of flying all kinds of aircraft! u can tailor make your own mission or choose one listed in the drop down menu listed according based on the level of difficulty and competency required!

prateekswarup · 9th April 2009, 14:05

awesome read!

Sadly I wan't able to go for my SSC(Flying branch) Airforce a few years ago. Always love the concept of flying.... esp. after watching Top Gun.

Thanks for all the info flyboy and others

Had an opportunity to check out the AN-78 mid air refuelling plane a couple of years ago. Its was absolutely huge! Imagine carrying tons of fuel for other aircraft... fascinating!

sk456 · 9th April 2009, 14:21

Awesome.. The 747 IMO is the most beautiful bird in the sky today. The sight of one taking off or landing never fails to take my breath away.

OT- Even though the A-380 is huge and is supposed to have gorgeous interiors it is butt ugly from the outside.( happened to see one at Narita in March) .

Of course the queen was the Concorde which i had the fortune of seeing taking off and landing a few eons back.

revtech · 9th April 2009, 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillram

This Boeing review is good,however I feel flying a Airbus is a different experiance.

what makes you say that ? what are you basing that statement on ?

rev

delhi2009 · 10th April 2009, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by im_srini

Wow ! A 747 pilot on the forum !

Hi Delhi2009, the 2 panels you've posted (first 2 pics), are they from PMDG ?

The 2 are PSS - 777-300 Pics

The 1 on Final Approach is FlightCraft A330 Panel
The 1 on PHNL - KMIA Route is 747 Panel from Avsim.

9thsphinx · 10th April 2009, 19:34

The closest I could get to flying an aircraft was only on a Microsoft Flight Simulator PC game. Oh and that too after hundreds of tries, I could not even manage to Take Off.
Thanks flyboy for all the frenzy info on flying...

8th April 2009, 01:25	#106
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,169 Thanked: 27,946 Times	Thank goodness for something to help us "rise above" the Skoda debacle. My attention to the rest of the site has been sadly lacking for some days. This thread is a breath of fresh air
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DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,382 Times	Hey this is a great thread. I wanted to be a pilot, never got around to actually doing it (I am trying to patao my younger son now). I guess that justifies my profession as a vehicle development and professional vehicle test engineer. I drive instead of fly. The 747 is my favourite airplane due to its distinctive upper deck shape and sheer size and whenever I am sitting in the lounge of Mumbai airport (my work involves travelling so I get this opportunity), I always make it a point to sit facing the runway and try and see as many 747s as possible taking off or landing. There seem to be too few of them left these days. I often see a "Saudia" aircraft in the mornings though. I would love to get a photograph taken from inside the cockpit of the 747 when it is landing at Mumbai airport. I hope flyboy747 can provide it. Best regards, Behram Dhabhar
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abhisheksircar BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 524 Thanked: 1,753 Times	Before opening the thread I was wondering what could the Boeing be a metaphor for. Little did I ever thing that it was ACTUALLY a Boeing review. But ofcourse a first in team-bhp. Thanks for sharing.
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9th April 2009, 11:42	#114
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,942 Thanked: 1,326 Times View My Garage	All the flying i was done is a 3 hour flight with my instructor on a Cessna Single Propeller plane into the Tasman Bay in Australia. This Boeing review is good,however I feel flying a Airbus is a different experiance.
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9th April 2009, 13:27	#115
sandeep.mishra BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 88 Thanked: 4 Times	Boeing 747-400 For those who always wanted to become a Pilot but couldnt, go for the MS Flight Simulator Deluxe version. I purchased a deluxe edition recently which costs around 2k and am immensely satisfied with the investment. From Cessna to Boeing 747's, you have the options of flying all kinds of aircraft! u can tailor make your own mission or choose one listed in the drop down menu listed according based on the level of difficulty and competency required!
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9th April 2009, 14:05	#116
prateekswarup BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Delhi NCR Posts: 311 Thanked: 446 Times	awesome read! Sadly I wan't able to go for my SSC(Flying branch) Airforce a few years ago. Always love the concept of flying.... esp. after watching Top Gun. Thanks for all the info flyboy and others Had an opportunity to check out the AN-78 mid air refuelling plane a couple of years ago. Its was absolutely huge! Imagine carrying tons of fuel for other aircraft... fascinating!
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9th April 2009, 14:21	#117
sk456 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: @Noida/Gurgaon Posts: 570 Thanked: 7 Times	Awesome.. The 747 IMO is the most beautiful bird in the sky today. The sight of one taking off or landing never fails to take my breath away. OT- Even though the A-380 is huge and is supposed to have gorgeous interiors it is butt ugly from the outside.( happened to see one at Narita in March) . Of course the queen was the Concorde which i had the fortune of seeing taking off and landing a few eons back.
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10th April 2009, 19:34	#120
9thsphinx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 1,118 Thanked: 542 Times View My Garage	The closest I could get to flying an aircraft was only on a Microsoft Flight Simulator PC game. Oh and that too after hundreds of tries, I could not even manage to Take Off. Thanks flyboy for all the frenzy info on flying...
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