[impala]

Originally Posted by Livnletcarsliv

So finally, after going through this thread, I am now even more confused.

I always had the question of whether Shell is worth the premium or not?

I had been using Shell consistently for quite a while but I too had to explore other options due to price of VPower petrol and not finding Shell pumps in KL and TN. My first preference now after trying HP Power, BP Speed, Shell VPower and IOCL XP95 is XP95. I am pretty convinced that it's not placebo effect that XP95, which also has the highest RON of the above set, drives smoothest; and probably gives marginally better mileage. I have found 2-3 reliable IOCL pumps so far that vends XP95. Second preference is Speed from any BP COCO, followed by Shell VPower. I have had very mixed experience with HP Power.

Any comments about MRPL HiQ pumps, anyone? I recently tried the one near Sarjapur, Bangalore after finding 3 PSU pumps on the way closed. Staff were friendly and professional. Didn't feel any issues like louder engine sound too which I usually 'feel' after filling non-premium petrol too. This outlet has a 4.7 rating on Google which is the highest I have ever seen of any petrol outlets!

[DRIV3R]

Originally Posted by impala

Any comments about MRPL HiQ pumps, anyone? I recently tried the one near Sarjapur, Bangalore after finding 3 PSU pumps on the way closed. Staff were friendly and professional. Didn't feel any issues like louder engine sound too which I usually 'feel' after filling non-premium petrol too. This outlet has a 4.7 rating on Google which is the highest I have ever seen of any petrol outlets!

Often fill at the very same pump, it has been consistently good so far.

[pranavGTI]

Originally Posted by SideView

Hi folks,

What are these pumps (hp & bp) pumps offering that Nayara and shell guys are not ( i know shell can be a couple of Rs expensive) but if the fuel quality is better shouldnt the trucks and volvos also select the same? As it would be better in the long run? (My other guess is they are giving better repayment terms like fill now, pay at end of month etc which the private companies might not entertain)

Or

Is it that the whole shell > bp, hp for fuel quality just a hog wash.

Or

They bribe drivers and give some kickbacks, as they dont own the trucks and maintenance headache is upto the owner and not the driver.

I don't see a reason for a pump owner to bribe lorry drivers. Here is another perspective.

In Tamilnadu, lorry associations own and operate lot of fuel pumps by dealing directly with oil corporations. Please read LOA = Lorry Owners Association.

1. When any heavy vehicle (Goods or bulk LPG carrier) owned by a member of LOA fills fuel in an association owned pump anywhere in TN, a discount between INR 1 – 2.5 per liter is given. To get the discount, driver must present the LOA membership card and Fuel card. Cash back is added to the fuel card.
2. Bulk LPG carriers are given fuel cards by the state-owned oil companies when awarding transport contract. This fuel card is connected to the contract account. LPG carriers are obliged to fill fuel only from the oil company fuel pumps. LPG carriers get additional loyalty points which can be redeemed as cash back or fill extra fuel.
3. State-owned oil companies work with lorry associations for additional benefits to vehicle owners to increase fuel sales. For example, Ashok Leyland’s 3520 (12 Wheeler) dual tank has capacity of 500 liters. In a month a vehicle would fill fuel minimum 3 times. Difference between high Fuel prices at Shell / Nayara / Reliance / Essar and discounted price at LOA pumps is more money per vehicle on annual basis. Now you may do the calculation for a fleet.
4. Majority of vehicle owners prefer fuel cards for above reasons. End of the day it is business. A rupee saved is a rupee earned.
5. I have experienced better fuel quality at LOA pumps. They are at par with COCO. At some places even better.

These are few reasons that I know why heavy vehicles prefer IOCL, HPCL and BPCL pumps.

[RM Motorsports]

As of this month, number of petrol pumps by company.

[Ford5]

Have a question about HP Power. The one available in bangalore at most HP bunks costs 107 rupees and there’s no indication of how many octane it is, or if it’s just 87/91 octane with additives.

HP website mentions “Power 99” comes with the 99 octane rating, but and only 3 pumps in bangalore stock it.

Hence my question about what could be the octane rating of regular “HP Power” fuel?

[Born 2 Be Wild]

Originally Posted by Ford5

Have a question about HP Power. The one available in bangalore at most HP bunks costs 107 rupees and there’s no indication of how many octane it is, or if it’s just 87/91 octane with additives.

HP website mentions “Power 99” comes with the 99 octane rating, but and only 3 pumps in bangalore stock it.

Hence my question about what could be the octane rating of regular “HP Power” fuel?

HP power is regular petrol with added additives ron rating minimum 91, so its always 91 ron and above in most cases 92-93 range with additives.

[Ford5]

Originally Posted by Born 2 Be Wild

so its always 91 ron and above in most cases 92-93 range with additives.

Ah ok, so IOC XP 95 with true octane rating of 95 octane costs 108 bucks, the same as “Regular” HP power + additives resulting in less than 95 octane.

No wonder I didn’t feel any difference between HP power costing 108 and regular HP petrol costing around 102, the additives used didn’t make their presence felt.

Better to use IOC XP 95 then as engine feels livelier and it actually is MIN 95 octane without additives costing the same as “Regular” HP Power.

Wonder if “Power 99” from HP is true 99 octane rating or not?

[Born 2 Be Wild]

Originally Posted by Ford5

Wonder if “Power 99” from HP is true 99 octane rating or not?

Power 99 is discontinued now in most places as HP has launched Power 100, which has 100 octane rating and yes they are absolutely true with octane ratings,A particular batch is only dispatched from the oil depot after its tested for octane rating.

[Ford5]

Originally Posted by Born 2 Be Wild

which has 100 octane rating and yes they are absolutely.

The Power 100 page reads “developed an octane boosting additive formulation that can increase the Research Octane Number of BS VI Gasoline to 100”

Sounds to me like this is only via additives and is not a base octane rating of 100?

[Born 2 Be Wild]

Originally Posted by Ford5

The Power 100 page reads “developed an octane boosting additive formulation that can increase the Research Octane Number of BS VI Gasoline to 100”

Sounds to me like this is only via additives and is not a base octane rating of 100?

Xp100 power 100 speed 97 all are derived using octane boosters, hope that clears your doubts

[sen2693]

Not sure if Instagram links violate policy of this forum, Mods please delete if they do -

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cu-yl...RlODBiNWFlZA==

There are few comments on this discussion on how cheating in bunks is near impossible with the updated tech and all. However, this reel shows how only 200ml was filled for a 1L fill up.

This makes you lose trust on going to PSU bunks. I was planning to move away from Shell given the mileage was no longer justifying the 12 rupees price difference but these incidents, plus numerous comments here as well on folks being distracted while filling up, really make me rethink if the price is worth the peace of mind.

[kiran_aithal]

Originally Posted by sen2693

However, this reel shows how only 200ml was filled for a 1L fill up. This makes you lose trust on going to PSU bunks.

but these incidents, plus numerous comments here as well on folks being distracted while filling up, really make me rethink if the price is worth the peace of mind.

Generally, I have an idea of how much fuel the tank may need to get full. But siphoning off small quantities will go undetected .

Though my better half and some friends (and of course, the fuel pump staff) express their displeasure of me getting out of the car to inspect the 'Zero' and the filling, I continue to do it religiously. I engage in small talk only after the filling starts but my eyes are constantly on the meter (sometimes we have to go to such great lengths just not to be cheated). This is irrespective of PSU or Pvt bunk.

BTW, Fuel (at least Diesel) prices in non-metro bunks of Shell are comparable to PSU bunks. I experienced this twice. Not sure if this is the case everywhere.

[sen2693]

Originally Posted by kiran_aithal

Generally, I have an idea of how much fuel the tank may need to get full. But siphoning off small quantities will go undetected .

Though my better half and some friends (and of course, the fuel pump staff) express their displeasure of me getting out of the car to inspect the 'Zero' and the filling, I continue to do it religiously. I engage in small talk only after the filling starts but my eyes are constantly on the meter (sometimes we have to go to such great lengths just not to be cheated). This is irrespective of PSU or Pvt bunk.

BTW, Fuel (at least Diesel) prices in non-metro bunks of Shell are comparable to PSU bunks. I experienced this twice. Not sure if this is the case everywhere.

Yeah, having a mileage/fuel log and filling tank full each time helps give idea of how much fuel am going to fill. That and checking zero should be a good practice to avoid being underfuelled.

But if bunks can alter with quantity, what is the guarantee that the quality cannot be altered. Not saying all bunks do it. Am sure most dont than the ones that do. But finding out the ones that are fair, especially in unknown places is very important.

[Altrozed]

Hello folks.
Couldn't find any post on this info and hence posting here.
Nayara petrol is now 3rs cheaper than market price if filled for minimum 2000rs and payment mode is card/UPI. The offer is valid for next 3 months.

It is cheaper by 2rs if filled for minimum 1000rs.

Fill and drive safe.

Please merge with any other post for larger reach.