Omni Pick-up.. competitor to Tata Ace??

salilpawar1 · 26th May 2007, 17:16

How about Maruti launching Omni Pickup to counter the threat of Tata Ace in its market share.....?

Globally it is (was) known as Suzuki Carry.

In Pakistan, sold as Suzuki Ravi...

For images and specs.. click link below..
PakWheels.com :: Suzuki Ravi 2005 Specifications Pakistan

tushky · 26th May 2007, 18:55

in some countries ,it is Known As Chevrolet Super Carry. Pick up and Van too.

GeekSrik · 26th May 2007, 19:36

should sell well in competition to tata. yet another "ACE" up marutis sleeve

Alfa_Kilo · 26th May 2007, 20:23

It won't work, because:

1. All versions of the Carry are petrol engined (or LPG/CNG), while the Ace is powered by an oil burner.

2. The Ace's chassis, suspension and axles are much tougher than the Carry, which makes it better suited for the typical overloading prevelent here.

speedzak · 26th May 2007, 21:49

CNG version will do here. There will be many takers.
Just remember the very very cheap maintenance costs Omni comes with.

msdivy · 26th May 2007, 21:59

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Originally Posted by salilpawar1

Globally it is (was) known as Suzuki Carry.

Isn't Suzuki Carry same as Maruti Versa?

narayan · 26th May 2007, 22:53

as such it defently looks like a good idea...but lot of other factors before maruti actually does this....

1) capacity availability
2) it has to start a whole new dealer channel bcos a CV buyer is quite diff from a passenger car buyer..
3) does maruti have the expertise to tap thsi market segment ? TATA has a traditional stronghold with transport operators...it just makes logical sense forthem to buy a tata vehicle...may not be the case with a maruti
4) would maruti want to do it at all ? why would maruti want to get a CV image when it is trying to step up the car market itself segment wise...this would not do too well to the brand image.... there are exceptions though ( like VOLVO which is a CV and passenger car brand )
5) lastly cheap diesel is defently require ( CNG is not yet commonly available- so transporters may not go for this ) - and maruti does NOT have a small , cheap diesel engine

iraghava · 27th May 2007, 00:55

Actually over the past few days I've seen a similar pickup van with the name Virgo on it. Anyone know which manufacturer is this from?

low_bass_makker · 27th May 2007, 01:16

saw this type of pick up many times in the faridabad local car market many years back...but when I enquire that from where did one buy it they told me that when maruti was setting up in gurgaon they had imported this type of vehicle for internal material handing....and these type of vehicles can carry not more than 600 kgs at one go..

esteem_lover · 27th May 2007, 02:55

Actually it is very difficult for maruti to penetrate the cargo vehicle business. That is where TATA has etched a name for themselves.

v1p3r · 27th May 2007, 04:22

You're missing something very important. The first, international picture, says 4WD!!!

And why on earth would Suzuki sell a vehicle called Ravi in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan?!

salilpawar1 · 27th May 2007, 10:18

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

You're missing something very important. The first, international picture, says 4WD!!!

Yes, it is a 4WD. Check out the link below...
FOR SALE 1990 Suzuki DB41T 4WD DIFF Lock Carry Truck/office@monkys.jp

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And why on earth would Suzuki sell a vehicle called Ravi in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan?!

Because there is a river called Ravi (pronounced as Raavi) which exists in Pakistan

Quote:

Originally Posted by esteem_lover

Actually it is very difficult for maruti to penetrate the cargo vehicle business. That is where TATA has etched a name for themselves.

If you consider urban areas, Omni delivery vans sell handsomely since Maruti has an "upmarket image" compared to Tata...

Quote:

Originally Posted by msdivy

Isn't Suzuki Carry same as Maruti Versa?

Maruti Versa is the next generation of Maruti Omni nee Suzuki Carry

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

Actually over the past few days I've seen a similar pickup van with the name Virgo on it. Anyone know which manufacturer is this from?

It is made by an unknown manufacturer probably Taiwanese and yes, it looks very similar to the Omni

By the way, this is Premier Automobiles' competitor to Tata Ace.. -- Premier Roadstar

tushky · 27th May 2007, 15:32

You Guys are talking about this one.
i spotted today. but the quality of vehicle is poor. engine is not so refined. even this vehicle look like 90's. i have a doubt. i guess this vehicle is not from Suzuki.

low_bass_makker · 27th May 2007, 15:43

like above pickup van...mahindra has also launched a similar vehicle with diesel engine...don't remember the name....

salilpawar1 · 28th May 2007, 10:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

like above pickup van...mahindra has also launched a similar vehicle with diesel engine...don't remember the name....

It's the Mahindra Champion

Quote:

Originally Posted by tushky

You Guys are talking about this one.
i spotted today. but the quality of vehicle is poor. engine is not so refined. even this vehicle look like 90's. i have a doubt. i guess this vehicle is not from Suzuki.

The vehicle is obviously not a suzuki since it is caught testing in Pune.
Headlamps are like the first generation Maruti Omni
The indicator and bumper has been lifted from the Omni.
The large grille suggests that it's a diesel or is it a decoy?
The "ON TEST" sticker is very similar to those used by Tata, isn't it, Tushky?
The taillamps are those found on Force (Tempo) Minidor...
By the way, about six months ago, I'd spotted a test mule of the four-wheel version of Force Minidor.

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tushky Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 1,277 Thanked: 2,844 Times View My Garage	in some countries ,it is Known As Chevrolet Super Carry. Pick up and Van too.
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GeekSrik Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,281 Thanked: 22 Times View My Garage	should sell well in competition to tata. yet another "ACE" up marutis sleeve
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Alfa_Kilo BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jaipur Posts: 328 Thanked: 13 Times	It won't work, because: 1. All versions of the Carry are petrol engined (or LPG/CNG), while the Ace is powered by an oil burner. 2. The Ace's chassis, suspension and axles are much tougher than the Carry, which makes it better suited for the typical overloading prevelent here.
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speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,346 Thanked: 28 Times	CNG version will do here. There will be many takers. Just remember the very very cheap maintenance costs Omni comes with.
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narayan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 3,132 Thanked: 2,488 Times View My Garage	as such it defently looks like a good idea...but lot of other factors before maruti actually does this.... 1) capacity availability 2) it has to start a whole new dealer channel bcos a CV buyer is quite diff from a passenger car buyer.. 3) does maruti have the expertise to tap thsi market segment ? TATA has a traditional stronghold with transport operators...it just makes logical sense forthem to buy a tata vehicle...may not be the case with a maruti 4) would maruti want to do it at all ? why would maruti want to get a CV image when it is trying to step up the car market itself segment wise...this would not do too well to the brand image.... there are exceptions though ( like VOLVO which is a CV and passenger car brand ) 5) lastly cheap diesel is defently require ( CNG is not yet commonly available- so transporters may not go for this ) - and maruti does NOT have a small , cheap diesel engine
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iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 7,997 Thanked: 281 Times View My Garage	Actually over the past few days I've seen a similar pickup van with the name Virgo on it. Anyone know which manufacturer is this from?
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low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,813 Thanked: 306 Times View My Garage	saw this type of pick up many times in the faridabad local car market many years back...but when I enquire that from where did one buy it they told me that when maruti was setting up in gurgaon they had imported this type of vehicle for internal material handing....and these type of vehicles can carry not more than 600 kgs at one go..
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27th May 2007, 02:55	#10
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 513 Times View My Garage	Actually it is very difficult for maruti to penetrate the cargo vehicle business. That is where TATA has etched a name for themselves.
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v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,359 Thanked: 7,449 Times View My Garage	You're missing something very important. The first, international picture, says 4WD!!! And why on earth would Suzuki sell a vehicle called Ravi in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan?! Last edited by v1p3r : 27th May 2007 at 04:24.
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tushky Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 1,277 Thanked: 2,844 Times View My Garage	You Guys are talking about this one. i spotted today. but the quality of vehicle is poor. engine is not so refined. even this vehicle look like 90's. i have a doubt. i guess this vehicle is not from Suzuki. Last edited by tushky : 27th May 2007 at 15:44.
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27th May 2007, 15:43	#14
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,813 Thanked: 306 Times View My Garage	like above pickup van...mahindra has also launched a similar vehicle with diesel engine...don't remember the name....
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