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Originally Posted by audioholic Exactly, and this would have taken both pilots by surprise during the turn and would have caused a big disaster. Not sure who deserves the bashing in this case. It was a major goof up. This also deserves a thread of its own IMO.
[*]South runway controller either isnt told about this or has missed this communication and clears the aircraft for take off[*]North runway which has now been declared as single runway for both arrival and departure[*]Another aircraft cleared for north runway departure[/list]Somehow, the timing is like both of them took off together. But to me its very shocking that such a lapse could occur. And what boggles me further is why this switch frequently from single runway to dual and so on. I guess someone here can throw some light and correct me. Why on earth cant they have two runways operational with a constant assignment of take off and landing? I understand that if there is something pressing, then one of the runways can be shut. And IIRC, both runways now have been upgraded to CAT3b landing hence there is no question of switching runways due to visibility. | Quote:
Originally Posted by sagarpadaki They seem to be more hype than stating what actually happened. |
Quite over sensationalized, typical of our media. Though this incident was very serious!
From what I’ve seen, standard instrument departure for both the runways in this case 09R(south) & 09L(north) share a common waypoint ahead of the north runway. The SID 09R calls for a left turn to join the same path as 09L after takeoff to head to the previously mentioned waypoint, probably why parallel takeoffs are not done here. In this incident, that left turn could have potentially caused a disaster. Pilots who have flown out this airport please add in.
The Swiss cheese theory working out with a happy ending in this case, even with the ATC & crew not realizing their mistake, both the aircrafts are equipped with TCAS which would have already seen this coming and given out advisories to crews of both AC to avoid a collision. The ATC made a BIG mistake for sure, but the crew should also have checked their clearance, I believe the frequency is the same and they would have heard the other crew getting their clearance as well(?) or maybe they dint catch that with the similar iFly callsigns(?) we have to wait for the DGCA report on this. Quote:
Originally Posted by sagarpadaki If ATC tried to cover up, any clue on how the info leaked out? |
From an article about this from Hindustan Times… Quote:
The DGCA further said the incident was not recorded in any logbook, nor was it reported by the Airports Authority of India (AAI).
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If it was not reported by both crews or ATC, the aircraft must have snitched on them ![Smile](https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.png) Airbus planes won’t let you do anything not normal like exceeding speeds, abnormal pitch/bank or any other unusual attitudes without it being reported via the datalink to operator(?) airbus pilots on this forum can give some more info please. If there was a TCAS advisory in this incident could it have been reported by the aircraft to ops? again Airbus pilots please jump in. Quote:
Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao Is that wording meant to imply ATC staff handling traffic on each of the runways, or are there two actual control towers that manage the runways independently while coordinating with each other? |
Never flown into Bengaluru but I don’t think they have two towers there. It should imply two controllers for each runway as is the case. An airport this size usually different controllers handling delivery, ground, takeoff/landing and whatever comes afterwards. All handing off aircrafts to each other in their sequence. Extremely fun to watch! |