Team-BHP > Commercial Vehicles
Register New Topics New Posts Top Thanked Team-BHP FAQ


Reply
  Search this Thread
109,889 views
Old 21st November 2017, 11:39   #31
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: --
Posts: 24,813
Thanked: 74,989 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

Tesla's Semi - Charge port, the eight-pin Tesla Semi charging port is much larger than ports on Tesla’s current line of vehicles.



Quote:
The future semi will charge using a new network of Tesla Megachargers. Potentially, if the electric semi finds widespread success, there will be an entire network of these new super-fast chargers, which will likely only be utilized for the truckers, but who knows what the future holds. Musk has made many references to a much more powerful Supercharger down the road.
link
volkman10 is offline  
Old 21st November 2017, 23:05   #32
Senior - BHPian
 
gururajrv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: KA 01-09
Posts: 1,298
Thanked: 2,647 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

On a funny note, some creative mindset has gone ahead and imagined if ever the tesla semi-truck makes it to India, what kind of transformation it would go through

HORN OK PLEASE - lol this is epic
The Tesla electric Semi-Truck-373df07380c140df9ec3b0f022f23c24.jpeg

Link : Rushlane
gururajrv is offline   (10) Thanks
Old 22nd November 2017, 01:48   #33
Senior - BHPian
 
maddy42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Coorg
Posts: 2,166
Thanked: 1,487 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

Quote:
Originally Posted by gururajrv View Post
On a funny note, some creative mindset has gone ahead and imagined if ever the tesla semi-truck makes it to India, what kind of transformation it would go through

HORN OK PLEASE - lol this is epic
Attachment 1698305

Link : Rushlane
Mamoo will say - Number kidhar hai and emission test nahin kiya. Will be nice if this gets the number PB 01 A 8055

Quote:
Originally Posted by sri_tesla View Post
Tesla truck was pre-ordered by some of the largest companies. Many of them are ordering to test it seems. Based on results there will definitely more in future.

Loblaw (Canada's largest supermarket chain): 25
Walmart: 15
JB Hunt (USA's 3rd largest truck operator): number unknown
Meijir (US retail chain): 4

Loblaw announced earlier this month that they will move their entire cargo fleet to electric by 2030.
Heard about the company called Nikola making hydrogen fuel cell trucks? They had a presentation early last year and has a tie up with a truck builder to get their trucks on road.

Quote:
Originally Posted by V.Narayan View Post
Very heartening to see that Elon Musk is the disrupter needed for the automotive industry. Disrupters are bad news for entrenched players and great news for customers. Disrupters change the way we buy and use products and services; they change the way we even think of the product - AirBnB, Lyft, Uber; Google and Facebook from the last decade; Amazon from the 1990s and even our humble M800, in its own way, from the 1980s. In the next several years, unless they change, innovate and get a whole lot leaner I would not be surprised if some marquee names such as General Motors, Chrysler-Fiat might disappear before 2035. Not so long ago names like Pan Am, Woolworths, Hindustan Motors, Nokia, Compaq, Morris were everyday business names - but no longer.
I so want Tesla to succeed. They had to start everything from scratch. Charging network, auto driving, electric and had to deal with people calling their death on a daily basis. Their financials are the only thing which can cause their failure as they have a product which is amazing. Have driver the Tesla Model S, amazing car to drive and the accelaration is mind blowing. Just needs a more comfy interior, like a S class.

More power to Elon. The world is watching, especially the chinese.

Maddy
maddy42 is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 22nd November 2017, 11:26   #34
Senior - BHPian
 
maddy42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Coorg
Posts: 2,166
Thanked: 1,487 Times

I just watched the show for this truck inauguration and I really think Elon has hit so
Many industries and they still do not realise it. The numbers for this truck is insane to say the least.

Maddy
maddy42 is offline  
Old 23rd November 2017, 11:50   #35
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: --
Posts: 24,813
Thanked: 74,989 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

TESLA releases the expected price of its SEMI Electric Truck - $ 150,000 - 200,000!

Quote:
Regular production versions for the 300-mile and 500-mile range versions will be $150,000 and $180,000 respectively, while the company is also listing a ‘Founders Series’ version for $200,000.

For comparison, most diesel semi trucks today cost around $120,000.

link
volkman10 is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 23rd November 2017, 12:29   #36
Senior - BHPian
 
gururajrv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: KA 01-09
Posts: 1,298
Thanked: 2,647 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

Quote:
Originally Posted by volkman10 View Post
TESLA releases the expected price of its SEMI Electric Truck - $ 150,000 - 200,000!

link
Going by these prices, if this ever comes to India, imagine the prices against the current FX rate between INR vs USD standing at ~ Rs 64.78 to buy USD 1.

$150,000 (Rs 97,18,574.84) - for mile ranging 300 miles i.e. ~483kms
Name:  150000.PNG
Views: 1451
Size:  33.7 KB

$200,000 (Rs 1,29,57,413.14) - for mile ranging 500 miles i.e. ~800kms
Name:  200000.PNG
Views: 1426
Size:  34.0 KB

Source: XE

It proves to be expensive compared to the normal trucks and the running costs would pose a question to the minds of the prospective basic buyers depending on recharging the truck and the time taken to recharge the truck for the continual running during a transit. This somewhere does become like those days when people used to think Diesel investments are pricier than petrol even though Diesels are economical when it came to running costs. Electric powered vehicles will suffer the same fate against the petrol hybrids I believe keeping the truck concept aside which is again dependent on how the prices are fixed for each segment.

If I pit this semi-truck against the range of trucks Ashok Leyland has alongside the prices, I feel people will still stick to conventional trucks and tippers. I believe by the time Tesla makes its way to India, our legendary truck makers would have come up with EV powered mini or full sized trucks with competitive costs and lower maintenance. This is purely IMO.

Quote:
Ashok Leyland was established as Ashok Motors in the year 1948 and later rechristened to Ashok Leyland in 1955 after collaborating with British Leyland Motors under Hinduja Group. The automaker offers several products in its range of commercial vehicles from trucks and tractors to tippers and mini-trucks. Amongst the most popular models, Ashok Leyland DOST, Ashok Leyland 3718 IL and Ashok Leyland 3118 IL have taken the brand image to a whole new level. The price of Ashok Leyland trucks in India starts from INR 8.55 lakh, Ashok Leyland tippers from INR 14.30 lakhs, Ashok Leyland tractors from INR 18.85 lakh while that of Ashok Leyland mini-trucks starts from INR 5.33 lakhs (all prices ex-showroom). The company already started migrating to BS-IV standards in 2010 and has successfully implemented the technology across its range of vehicles.
Source

Last edited by gururajrv : 23rd November 2017 at 12:32.
gururajrv is offline  
Old 23rd November 2017, 16:37   #37
BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Nuremberg
Posts: 673
Thanked: 589 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

Quote:
Originally Posted by gururajrv View Post
Going by these prices...
Well truck with similar houlage capacity from Ashok Leyland is around Rs. 50 L. And it has maintenance cost and downtime as well.

This is scenario for today. In coming years equation is going to reverse once the technology becomes cheaper. In short span we have reached this 800 km range for full loaded truck. And this is going to increase further.
sushantr5 is offline  
Old 23rd November 2017, 19:58   #38
Senior - BHPian
 
gururajrv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: KA 01-09
Posts: 1,298
Thanked: 2,647 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

Quote:
Originally Posted by sushantr5 View Post
Well truck with similar houlage capacity from Ashok Leyland is around Rs. 50 L. And it has maintenance cost and downtime as well.

This is scenario for today. In coming years equation is going to reverse once the technology becomes cheaper. In short span we have reached this 800 km range for full loaded truck. And this is going to increase further.
Yes correct. Hope by then Tesla would be making products out of India which should further bring down the costs (MAKE IN INDIA).
gururajrv is offline  
Old 23rd November 2017, 21:13   #39
BANNED
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Dehradun
Posts: 948
Thanked: 8,340 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

Quote:
Originally Posted by sushantr5 View Post
Well truck with similar houlage capacity from Ashok Leyland is around Rs. 50 L. And it has maintenance cost and downtime as well.
40 tonnes or 400 quintals

Looks like you are neglecting the overloading factor, here Tata 2515 are used for hauling that much load.

More epic?
Come to UP or Haryana or Punjab and you will find the large 2 axle trailers which carry 40-45 tonnes of sugarcane being pulled by Mahindra Arjun 605 or Mahindra 595 Turbo.

Even more epic needed?
150 quintal carrying trailers, 3 of them behind a single John Deere tractor.

There comes the point, until it's a long luggage, Indians are not going to spend 90 lac until it is some special case.

In fact, Elon Musk needs to look at this video, it will make him think what sort of vehicles he needs to design for India:

VKumar is offline  
Old 24th November 2017, 07:21   #40
Senior - BHPian
 
sandeepmohan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wellington
Posts: 3,223
Thanked: 5,842 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

Quote:
Originally Posted by VKumar View Post
There comes the point, until it's a long luggage, Indians are not going to spend 90 lac until it is some special case.
I am sorry to say but a video of a John Deere tractor hauling 1.5 tons isn't a good example of trying to prove what we have achieved. Let us see how long it takes to cover 1000km with that load and the state of the driver/drivers after they complete that trip.

Indians not willing to spend 90lacs? When did we ever hesitate to spend big bucks when the returns are bigger. The best example I can talk about is the success of our Volvo and Scania buses. Road transporters are lapping them up. In over a decade of such advanced buses being available, none of the companies are even looking at our local players. Almost every and any lucrative travel route you see today is handled by a Volvo or Scania. It is getting to that phase where all you see are these new generation buses.

The same is taking place in our logistics sector as well. These new trucks can be on the road almost 365 days a year. All they need is a driver swap.

The new Tesla truck isn't a special case. The way I see it, it is possibly a game changer. Knowing Musk and what he has managed to achieve with his electric cars, we are going to see a change in the way the world trucks.

Trust me, if Musk decides to hold a road show for his new electric truck in India, there will be queue of prospective customers keen on adopting the technology.

I see no reason why a Tesla truck can't work in India. We have fantastic highways today. It can only be a win situation for the logistics company. The only problem we have to contend with is power but hey, Musk has a solution for that too. The Supercharger. We have ample sun in our country. It is perfect. All Musk needs to figure out is an anti theft device for the Supercharger.

Long haul carriers, Logistics companies want savings. Modern day diesel trucks are delivering this today. Tesla's new semi is the next step to even more savings.

Last edited by sandeepmohan : 24th November 2017 at 07:23.
sandeepmohan is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 24th November 2017, 08:42   #41
BHPian
 
jeevan007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 78
Thanked: 147 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

A product like Tesla Semi would go a long way in promoting a conducive and healthy environment in the capital region. Here’s a look at how’s Tesla going to get it done!

http://www.news18.com/news/auto/delh...l-1585133.html
jeevan007 is offline  
Old 25th November 2017, 11:39   #42
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: --
Posts: 24,813
Thanked: 74,989 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

Tesla's Semi-Truck zipping past, and quickly the truck disappears into the distance once it builds up speed Accelerating .

volkman10 is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 11th December 2017, 07:22   #43
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: --
Posts: 24,813
Thanked: 74,989 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

Tesla's Semi makes appearance in the open, though Tesla has 2 years as committed to bring the production of this truck ( 2019). Video of the truck in below link.

There are speculations of the TESLA SEMI specifications as the battery size.
Quote:
Tesla Semi’s specs don’t appear to be possible with the current battery cells that Tesla uses in its current vehicles in term of weight and cost. Most analysts seem to agree that at least some significant incremental improvements in Li-ion batteries would be required or even a breakthrough with a new type of batteries.

The Tesla electric Semi-Truck-screenshot20171209at113812am.jpg
The Tesla electric Semi-Truck-screenshot20171209at113833am.jpg

Link
volkman10 is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 11th December 2017, 09:45   #44
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,132
Thanked: 2,631 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

Quote:
Originally Posted by VKumar View Post
40 tonnes or 400 quintals

Looks like you are neglecting the overloading factor, here Tata 2515 are used for hauling that much load.
Those days are long over, smaller trucks do overload a bit, but most of them are any way under rated (ie 2 Tr in export market is labled 1.2 Tr here) in current era most transporters do not even take the full sanctioned load. Remember just 5 years ago, when we used to see cleaners running behind trucks strugling at 10 kmph on gradients, and in case of a halt the immediately used to put a big stone behind the rear wheel to prevent roll back. Now most trucks are crewed by single driver, and the 3718 5 axle which has gross capacity of 37 tons usually runs with a gross below 30 tons. The 3118 with gross of 31 tons runs with a gross below 25. They often do that with the retractable axle lifted. At todays salary level and man power shortage conditions, it is cheaper to pay additional tax for a vehicle a size larger than to have one more crew member.


Quote:
Originally Posted by VKumar View Post
More epic?
Come to UP or Haryana or Punjab and you will find the large 2 axle trailers which carry 40-45 tonnes of sugarcane being pulled by Mahindra Arjun 605 or Mahindra 595 Turbo.

Even more epic needed?
150 quintal carrying trailers, 3 of them behind a single John Deere tractor.
These are only short distance operations.
Rahul Rao is offline  
Old 13th December 2017, 09:10   #45
BHPian
 
rohitoasis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Palakkad
Posts: 627
Thanked: 1,426 Times
Re: The Tesla electric Semi-Truck

Tesla has garnered pre orders for 267 numbers till date with the latest order by PepsiCo for a 100 numbers.

Quote:
The electric big rigs will join PepsiCo’s existing fleet of nearly 10,000 diesel semis to serve specific routes in North America.

PepsiCo follows Wal-Mart, J.B. Hunt, Anheuser-Busch, and food distributor Sysco in placing Tesla Semi orders. Reuters reports Tesla has received 267 reservations so far. Initially, Tesla charged $5,000 per truck to place a reservation but that has since risen to $20,000.

While 267 trucks sounds like a lot, it’s just a drop in the bucket compared to the 260,000 Class-8 heavy-duty diesel trucks produced in North America each year. Reuters suggests the relatively small orders placed by companies so far reflect the industry’s uncertainty about electric trucks replacing diesels.

Tesla’s ability to fill large orders of trucks may also be a factor in the companies’ decisions. The automaker continues to struggle with production of the mass-market Model 3, and is far behind in deliveries. Tesla has also been burning through cash at an astounding rate, and recently posted its largest quarterly loss yet. Still, Tesla says production of the Semi will begin in 2019.
Motortrend
rohitoasis is offline  
Reply

Most Viewed


Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks