want to buy a good car audio system

navin · 6th February 2006, 10:59

yes 12db/oct @ 80Hz is an excellent place to start for LPF and HPF. If the bass is over powering decrease the LPF to say 70 or 60Hz if it is lacking increase it to 90 or 100Hz.

make adjustments slowly. dont use steep filters as they come with their attendant problems (phase, ringing, etc..). Unless ofcourse there is little option.

Set bass level and phase. then set EQ then set time alignment. I find it useful to have a pad and pen in the car when I am doing this.

Sam Kapasi · 6th February 2006, 12:46

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Originally Posted by rsjaurr

My sony walkman and diskman probably give me somewhat better sound with original sony headphone!!!!!!!!

Good Lord!

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Originally Posted by Driven

hi,,
congrats, on your new car audio install, but i would still suggest if you can drop infinity speakers and go for some good company

Good Lord!

navin · 6th February 2006, 15:12

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Originally Posted by Driven

drop infinity speakers and go for some good company like alpine or hertz or mbquart,, they sound hell lot better,,
i have used all these brands in the past 5 years and I am not too pleased with the performance of Infinity. Your HU, Amp is fine.

THe MB Quart of old is not around. Hertz is mostly sold at a higher price point that Infinity and hardly available in the US (where doc got his stuff from).

gunbir · 6th February 2006, 16:09

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Originally Posted by navin

THe MB Quart of old is not around. Hertz is mostly sold at a higher price point that Infinity and hardly available in the US (where doc got his stuff from).

True Dat... the current MBQ sucks. In the last few years, it has changed more hands than a 5 rupee coin... Rockford Fosgate has also washed their hands off and Maxxsonics has bought it. Maxxsonics is a low end brand and I expect they will do a DEI (ref what Directed Electronics did to ADS etc) on MBQ.

navin · 6th February 2006, 16:52

Gun, from what I have seen (not heard) of the current MBQ line I do not expect good things (atleast not as good as their legacy). Even the Cantons I saw did not live up to their "German" branding.

Damn they dont make anything like they used to not even audio engineers! :-) just kidding. the last dig was just a joke (even if Saul, Avery and co aren't around).

ScarySkulls · 7th February 2006, 13:36

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Originally Posted by gunbir

. BTW I will be in Ludhiana during 25-27th Feb for a cousin's wedding. If you want, drive over and we will fix 'er up.

Can I get to meet you also...??
Oh plz....

rsjaurr · 7th February 2006, 17:03

Thanx for ur response guys........

yeah i agree with u all that i need to fine tune it b4 i can really enjoy it.I will change xover settings as suggested by JB and navin right now.
And gunbir i will meet u there in ur cousin's wedding.Do write me address of venue.

I have not set any other setting except media expander as i like it on.I beleive time alignment will make some significant difference.As i could not arrange digital voltmeter [or multimeter] earlier,i will do it in next few days as i want to rest for 3-4 days after such a hectic fortnight.Gain settings r abt 40-50% right now.All Xover [on amp] r off.

But i think i have done something to my system.As wriiten earlier i dint install both tweeters making hole in dashboard.I thought of doing it later after listening it on different locations.So i my installer just used double tape and fixed it one dashboard.But my right tweeter came off[due to polish and poor quality tape] and came bw door and dashboard & got pressed.My installer told me that its not damaged but i am very concerned as i may not get one tweeter.But i can hear normal sound from it though.
!st pic shows dent on frill of tweeter and 2nd pic with grill removed,shows its paper cone [i guess] pressed.

[img=http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2747/02040611540504ps.jpg]
[img=http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/8636/02040611553702dn.jpg]

navin · 7th February 2006, 17:06

I did not see any pics.

mohit · 7th February 2006, 17:36

try it now

rsjaurr · 7th February 2006, 17:57

Actually i am having a problem with net.
ok..here it goes

that white shiny thing below i beleive is its cone which is dented.

navin · 7th February 2006, 19:04

ok. a) dont worry it realyl does not affect the sound soo much b) if you want to fix it try very carefully pressing the sides of the dent till the dent pops out. Ihave done this before but it is something you gotta have a feel for. maybe JB can help since he is closer.

gunbir · 7th February 2006, 21:25

look fixable. Take a peice of scotch tape, stick it lightly to the tweeter cone and pull out gently. If you cant do it, we'll do it when I get there.

Cheers

Driven · 9th February 2006, 13:29

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Originally Posted by navin

THe MB Quart of old is not around. Hertz is mostly sold at a higher price point that Infinity and hardly available in the US (where doc got his stuff from).

hi,,,, but WHY DO YOU WANT TO BUY FROM US. if you have everything avalable in india.... and at better or same price...

mohit · 9th February 2006, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Driven

hi,,,, but WHY DO YOU WANT TO BUY FROM US. if you have everything avalable in india.... and at better or same price...

Doc got his stuff from ebay. I'd doubt you can match that pricing here in India

yogi1771 · 9th February 2006, 14:51

hi members where in mumbai professional fitment of music system be done

6th February 2006, 10:59	#346
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,321 Thanked: 9,495 Times	yes 12db/oct @ 80Hz is an excellent place to start for LPF and HPF. If the bass is over powering decrease the LPF to say 70 or 60Hz if it is lacking increase it to 90 or 100Hz. make adjustments slowly. dont use steep filters as they come with their attendant problems (phase, ringing, etc..). Unless ofcourse there is little option. Set bass level and phase. then set EQ then set time alignment. I find it useful to have a pad and pen in the car when I am doing this.
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6th February 2006, 16:52	#350
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,321 Thanked: 9,495 Times	Gun, from what I have seen (not heard) of the current MBQ line I do not expect good things (atleast not as good as their legacy). Even the Cantons I saw did not live up to their "German" branding. Damn they dont make anything like they used to not even audio engineers! :-) just kidding. the last dig was just a joke (even if Saul, Avery and co aren't around).
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7th February 2006, 17:03	#352
rsjaurr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Batala Posts: 777 Thanked: 28 Times	Thanx for ur response guys........ yeah i agree with u all that i need to fine tune it b4 i can really enjoy it.I will change xover settings as suggested by JB and navin right now. And gunbir i will meet u there in ur cousin's wedding.Do write me address of venue. I have not set any other setting except media expander as i like it on.I beleive time alignment will make some significant difference.As i could not arrange digital voltmeter [or multimeter] earlier,i will do it in next few days as i want to rest for 3-4 days after such a hectic fortnight.Gain settings r abt 40-50% right now.All Xover [on amp] r off. But i think i have done something to my system.As wriiten earlier i dint install both tweeters making hole in dashboard.I thought of doing it later after listening it on different locations.So i my installer just used double tape and fixed it one dashboard.But my right tweeter came off[due to polish and poor quality tape] and came bw door and dashboard & got pressed.My installer told me that its not damaged but i am very concerned as i may not get one tweeter.But i can hear normal sound from it though. !st pic shows dent on frill of tweeter and 2nd pic with grill removed,shows its paper cone [i guess] pressed. [img=http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2747/02040611540504ps.jpg] [img=http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/8636/02040611553702dn.jpg]
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7th February 2006, 17:06	#353
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,321 Thanked: 9,495 Times	I did not see any pics.
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7th February 2006, 17:36	#354
mohit BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto / Kurukshetra Posts: 677 Thanked: 168 Times	try it now
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7th February 2006, 17:57	#355
rsjaurr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Batala Posts: 777 Thanked: 28 Times	Actually i am having a problem with net. ok..here it goes that white shiny thing below i beleive is its cone which is dented.
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7th February 2006, 19:04	#356
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,321 Thanked: 9,495 Times	ok. a) dont worry it realyl does not affect the sound soo much b) if you want to fix it try very carefully pressing the sides of the dent till the dent pops out. Ihave done this before but it is something you gotta have a feel for. maybe JB can help since he is closer.
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7th February 2006, 21:25	#357
gunbir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,465 Thanked: 33 Times	look fixable. Take a peice of scotch tape, stick it lightly to the tweeter cone and pull out gently. If you cant do it, we'll do it when I get there. Cheers
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9th February 2006, 14:51	#360
yogi1771 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 697 Thanked: 15 Times	hi members where in mumbai professional fitment of music system be done
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