advice on upgrading my sony system for my zen??

mclaren1885 · 20th October 2005, 09:12

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Originally Posted by aseem

However great setup Mc Laren.... I am sure you are tooo excited. Now begins the tough part.... to begin to enjoy your system and resist upgrades. I know I am having a hard time not resisting adding more

so true aseem..well best of luck with your upgrade..i too am planninng an upgrade within the next 1-2 months..going to get a better amp to drive the stuff..though it will set me back by a lot and make my pockets severly light its worth it..

Vivekphadnis · 20th October 2005, 09:58

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Originally Posted by rsjaurr

Vivek whats the price of these 2 amps u r getting?

I am not sure. I have to ask around.

navin · 20th October 2005, 10:05

gunbir, wow thanks for the news. if and when i could afford the 450 i was thinking of running it at 2 ohms. I will have to revise my subwoofer plans now.

Vivekphadnis · 20th October 2005, 10:08

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Originally Posted by navin

Vivek I used the 340. I intend to get teh 450 and then run the front and rear speaker in bridged mode. between the 340 and 450 i'd have 8+1 channels. bridged they'd be 4+1. so you can get the 240 for now and when you need more power get another 240 and bridge both.

My guess is that the HU's 22W is driving the 936 and 426 pretty well so far. So, I think 50W should be sufficient. If I need to add a sub later, I can always get a monoblock. Was also wondering if this 50W per channel is enough for front components if I upgrade in the future. What say?

But I hope both the 240 and 320 are good sounding. McLaren tells me stores do not let you listen to the amps before buying them.

navin · 20th October 2005, 10:13

if you upgrade you can bridge the 50W amp to make it a 100W/2ch amp. that is what i intend to do. sometimes 2 4ch amps can cost less than 1 4ch amp and 1 monoblock.

Vivekphadnis · 20th October 2005, 10:19

Have you (or anyone) listened/used the 240? I am sure they sound great but just asking.

navin · 20th October 2005, 10:24

I use the 340 which is it's close cousin. I tested it against the GTA 450 and 504 and you know the rest.

Vivekphadnis · 20th October 2005, 10:45

Let's see. What I buy depends on the price. If the 320 is not too expensive, I might buy it. Otherwise, the 240 will have to do for some time.

Autophile · 20th October 2005, 12:54

Welcome to forum deepak...its nice to have you here and It was a pleasure meeting you in bangalore.

The Output stages of 450 are Class A/B Mosfets and are pre-bridged to give out mono output for sub. Thats why it is happy driving the 4 Ohm and above loads. The Class AB sub section sounds better unlike someother 5 Channel amps which have Class D sub section.

The subwoofer is wired in 8 Ohms because it is quite sensitive and also the cabin of Zen is small. With this configuration you achieve good balance between sub and speakers and overall nice SQ...that was the prime motto in this car.

Sam Kapasi · 20th October 2005, 13:18

HAHA Deepak! HAHAHA Deepak!! Welcome amigo!

mclaren1885 · 20th October 2005, 13:59

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

So finally the disco '82 has some good sound in it!!

Congratulations my little man!

no sam nnnooo..the disco 82 is severly injured...i dont know if it was beacause of u leaving bangalore or JB coming here that the rain gods were kind enough to shower their blessings on us..and due to this heavy downpour one of the neons read the left got damaged and aint working as water has entered the tube..so will replace it once the rains are done with..

i still can remember the shock on sams face when he sat in my car and found out that i had stripped my earlier system off just the day before...sorry sam that i had to take u around for those days without any music..but ya this time it wont be the same..sams exact quote was " she is still a virgin"..ok ok before u guys get all weird ideas sam was referring to my car as my entire dash was fitted exactly like it was in a new car without the HU in place..

though im happy with my new setup im equally sad as the disco 82 has lost its charm,one that it was know for among the bhpians..hehe cant forget the way sam started clapping and jumping on seeing the disco 82 in action

.. i remember seeing a 5yr old kid do that looking at some monkey do exhibits in the zoo

...and the next time i saw sam was doing the same..only differnce being this guy weighed a ton and was 6.xx ft tall..hehe..

abey yeh sab kya hey?? stuart little, little man..aur kuch rehgaya hey tho bol de taki sab sun sake..hehe..looks like u have found urself a stalker in the means of v1p3r..haha..have u read his signature

...

PS:guys im taking a complete break from music for two days starting with today..this is just to gear up in time to take the eyeballer in my hands this saturday..imagine 10 days of mayhem in the eyeaballer at VY and then another 5 days tuning my system up..my ears will surely desert me if i keep troubling them so much...

dasrani · 21st October 2005, 00:11

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

HAHA Deepak! HAHAHA Deepak!! Welcome amigo!

muchos gracias !! senor. hope to hear from you soon

dasrani · 21st October 2005, 00:14

i guess you have to agree to disagree ! i've used the hybrid models of the 5 channel models that you "do not like " with exceptional results. also, i've wired the 5th sub channel of a 450 at 2 ohms and have driven the amp pretty hard over an extended period of time. never has it once shut down.

gunbir · 21st October 2005, 09:12

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Originally Posted by dasrani

i guess you have to agree to disagree ! i've used the hybrid models of the 5 channel models that you "do not like " with exceptional results. also, i've wired the 5th sub channel of a 450 at 2 ohms and have driven the amp pretty hard over an extended period of time. never has it once shut down.

Deepak... Nobody wants to disagree. I dont doubt you have had different results. Simply stated facts from our own experience.

navin · 21st October 2005, 09:50

I promise when I get a 450 I will get to the bottom of this. I suspect if what gunbir says it true one of 2 things could happen

a) the 5th channel amp is really 2 channels bridged.
b) the speaker gunbir is using has a impedance drop below 2 ohms some where in it freq. curve (I would suspect somewhere near but not at Fs).

20th October 2005, 10:05	#273
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,285 Thanked: 9,457 Times	gunbir, wow thanks for the news. if and when i could afford the 450 i was thinking of running it at 2 ohms. I will have to revise my subwoofer plans now.
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20th October 2005, 10:13	#275
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,285 Thanked: 9,457 Times	if you upgrade you can bridge the 50W amp to make it a 100W/2ch amp. that is what i intend to do. sometimes 2 4ch amps can cost less than 1 4ch amp and 1 monoblock.
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20th October 2005, 10:19	#276
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	Have you (or anyone) listened/used the 240? I am sure they sound great but just asking.
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20th October 2005, 10:24	#277
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,285 Thanked: 9,457 Times	I use the 340 which is it's close cousin. I tested it against the GTA 450 and 504 and you know the rest.
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20th October 2005, 10:45	#278
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	Let's see. What I buy depends on the price. If the 320 is not too expensive, I might buy it. Otherwise, the 240 will have to do for some time.
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20th October 2005, 12:54	#279
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	Welcome to forum deepak...its nice to have you here and It was a pleasure meeting you in bangalore. The Output stages of 450 are Class A/B Mosfets and are pre-bridged to give out mono output for sub. Thats why it is happy driving the 4 Ohm and above loads. The Class AB sub section sounds better unlike someother 5 Channel amps which have Class D sub section. The subwoofer is wired in 8 Ohms because it is quite sensitive and also the cabin of Zen is small. With this configuration you achieve good balance between sub and speakers and overall nice SQ...that was the prime motto in this car.
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20th October 2005, 13:18	#280
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 7,000 Thanked: 2,438 Times View My Garage	HAHA Deepak! HAHAHA Deepak!! Welcome amigo!
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21st October 2005, 00:14	#283
dasrani BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25 Thanked: 40 Times	i guess you have to agree to disagree ! i've used the hybrid models of the 5 channel models that you "do not like " with exceptional results. also, i've wired the 5th sub channel of a 450 at 2 ohms and have driven the amp pretty hard over an extended period of time. never has it once shut down.
	() Thanks

21st October 2005, 09:50	#285
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,285 Thanked: 9,457 Times	I promise when I get a 450 I will get to the bottom of this. I suspect if what gunbir says it true one of 2 things could happen a) the 5th channel amp is really 2 channels bridged. b) the speaker gunbir is using has a impedance drop below 2 ohms some where in it freq. curve (I would suspect somewhere near but not at Fs).
	() Thanks