How does A Tactile Transducer Work?

vigsom · 30th December 2009, 16:24

Gurus,
I saw an ad in an automag a few days back on the Rockford Fosgate IBeam transducer.

Does this mean,subs would go out soon?

Was curious to know if anyone has tried it out and how it sounds/works?

Rockford Fosgate® - IB-200

clevermax · 30th December 2009, 16:32

A friend of mine is having a Rockford Fosgate ICE setup in his Swift. It sounds awesome. I'll ask him if he knows anything about it.

BTW, I hope you've already had a look at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactile_transducer

"A shaker transmits low-frequency vibrations into various surfaces so that they can be felt by people. This is called tactile sound. Tactile transducers may augment or in some cases substitute for a subwoofer."

This is like injecting vibrations all over the car when you play music with bass. His poor Swift.

greenh0rn · 30th December 2009, 16:52

I know this looks amazing, but IMHO it is much as a substitute for a real sub as a microwave is for a real coal-fired bar-be-cue

clevermax · 30th December 2009, 17:04

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Originally Posted by greenh0rn

I know this looks amazing, but IMHO it is much as a substitute for a real sub as a microwave is for a real coal-fired bar-be-cue

I like that comparison very much!!

m4ugr8 · 30th December 2009, 17:07

It creates vibration simply, Its like a subwoofer only but with vibrations only. The application can be in sedans, where the bass does not travel fully inside the cabin. Mount this thing under your front seat and the chair vibrates giving you sensation of bass. But at a pricing of close to 30K its better to buy a better subwoofer.

greenhorn · 30th December 2009, 17:09

its like fixing a vibrator ( the mobile phone kind , for those of you with overactive imaginations) to your car

If you have listened to vibrator headphones, I imagine the effect should be similar

vigsom · 30th December 2009, 17:18

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Originally Posted by greenh0rn

IMHO it is much as a substitute for a real sub as a microwave is for a real coal-fired bar-be-cue

good one

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4ugr8

It creates vibration simply, Its like a subwoofer only but with vibrations only. The application can be in sedans, where the bass does not travel fully inside the cabin. Mount this thing under your front seat and the chair vibrates giving you sensation of bass. But at a pricing of close to 30K its better to buy a better subwoofer.

I saw that it is priced at approx $350 on Amazon.I also came across one Buttkicker BK-LFE which works on the same principle and costs approx $170

Question is - has anyone tried it out?

d_himan · 3rd January 2010, 15:29

Some excerpts from the Autocar Jan issue Ad I found interesting:

a. Can be used with/without a traditional subwoofer
b. energizes listener's auditory cortex without pressurizing surrounding air - transmits information via bone hormonics/skin galvanic and other direct stimulus routes
c. can be felt ONLY by the listener when attached to a resonant surface
d. Optimum SQ level is often reached when you can just feel rather than hear the bass

Vigsom: the ad claims its different from a 'butt shaker' - butt shakers provide a narrow band of low frequency vibration which the brain translates as 'shaking' whereas the IBEAM delivers a broad band of deep bass output that the human brain can recognize

I thought all of this was gibberish until I saw the rockford fosgate logo on those boxes - dying for an audition!

frankmehta · 3rd January 2010, 17:38

i had seen this a couple of years ago in the Crutchfield catalogue. Didn't/STILL don't make too much out of it. Seems like a failed concept!

navin · 4th January 2010, 10:55

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Originally Posted by frankmehta

i had seen this a couple of years ago in the Crutchfield catalogue. Didn't/STILL don't make too much out of it. Seems like a failed concept!

Oh this stuff ahs been around (in varous forms) since the late 80s. In fact in 1994-5 I wired up the rear seat of my Zen with 4 "Shakers" from a company called Aurasound powered by a Pioneer GM2000 amp. To be honest it did little. No way did it replace a subwoofer. Maybe they can supllment a sub.

http://moesrealm.com/home-theater/re...s-shaker-pros/
http://myhometheater.homestead.com/tactile.html

greenh0rn · 4th January 2010, 16:17

Slightly OT, but my bed shakes and I get some tactile feedback through my bum when I wire up a regular Creative 2.1 set-up to my DVD player (using a stereo female to 2 RCA males adaptor), keep the sub (5.25" driver in a ported enclosure) on the floor, and watch an action movie like "The Taking of Pelham 123". Try this for an experience.

Punzabi · 6th January 2010, 12:01

Looks tempting but don't know how it would sound or in this case feel

30th December 2009, 16:24	#1
vigsom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NSEW Posts: 4,009 Thanked: 29,823 Times	How does A Tactile Transducer Work? Gurus, I saw an ad in an automag a few days back on the Rockford Fosgate IBeam transducer. Does this mean,subs would go out soon? Was curious to know if anyone has tried it out and how it sounds/works? Rockford Fosgate® - IB-200
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clevermax Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tvm/Amsterdam Posts: 2,112 Thanked: 2,897 Times View My Garage	A friend of mine is having a Rockford Fosgate ICE setup in his Swift. It sounds awesome. I'll ask him if he knows anything about it. BTW, I hope you've already had a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactile_transducer "A shaker transmits low-frequency vibrations into various surfaces so that they can be felt by people. This is called tactile sound. Tactile transducers may augment or in some cases substitute for a subwoofer." This is like injecting vibrations all over the car when you play music with bass. His poor Swift. Last edited by clevermax : 30th December 2009 at 16:40.
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greenh0rn BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 427 Thanked: 153 Times	I know this looks amazing, but IMHO it is much as a substitute for a real sub as a microwave is for a real coal-fired bar-be-cue
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m4ugr8 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,290 Thanked: 129 Times View My Garage	It creates vibration simply, Its like a subwoofer only but with vibrations only. The application can be in sedans, where the bass does not travel fully inside the cabin. Mount this thing under your front seat and the chair vibrates giving you sensation of bass. But at a pricing of close to 30K its better to buy a better subwoofer.
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greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	its like fixing a vibrator ( the mobile phone kind , for those of you with overactive imaginations) to your car If you have listened to vibrator headphones, I imagine the effect should be similar Last edited by greenhorn : 30th December 2009 at 17:28.
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d_himan BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 864 Thanked: 958 Times	Some excerpts from the Autocar Jan issue Ad I found interesting: a. Can be used with/without a traditional subwoofer b. energizes listener's auditory cortex without pressurizing surrounding air - transmits information via bone hormonics/skin galvanic and other direct stimulus routes c. can be felt ONLY by the listener when attached to a resonant surface d. Optimum SQ level is often reached when you can just feel rather than hear the bass Vigsom: the ad claims its different from a 'butt shaker' - butt shakers provide a narrow band of low frequency vibration which the brain translates as 'shaking' whereas the IBEAM delivers a broad band of deep bass output that the human brain can recognize I thought all of this was gibberish until I saw the rockford fosgate logo on those boxes - dying for an audition! Last edited by d_himan : 3rd January 2010 at 15:31.
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frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,029 Thanked: 3,667 Times View My Garage	i had seen this a couple of years ago in the Crutchfield catalogue. Didn't/STILL don't make too much out of it. Seems like a failed concept!
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4th January 2010, 16:17	#11
greenh0rn BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 427 Thanked: 153 Times	Slightly OT, but my bed shakes and I get some tactile feedback through my bum when I wire up a regular Creative 2.1 set-up to my DVD player (using a stereo female to 2 RCA males adaptor), keep the sub (5.25" driver in a ported enclosure) on the floor, and watch an action movie like "The Taking of Pelham 123". Try this for an experience.
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Punzabi BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: PB-08/Adelaide Posts: 143 Thanked: 44 Times	Looks tempting but don't know how it would sound or in this case feel
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