Re: Car Audio Advice from the Audio Gurus: Use "Search thread" before posting a new Q! Folks,
Guidance needed for an audio upgrade of my 3rd gen honda city. Its a pre-owned car that I bought 1.5 yrs back, previous owner had installed a mapmy india dual DIN system with rear camera, speakers are untouched (factory ones). I was never happy with the sound quality, but spent my initial time to spend on the mechanical bits and now its time for the audio upgrade.
I am interested in mainly sound quality, I don't listen at high volumes at all and I don't want any unnatural or heavy bass. To give an idea of what I like, at home I use AKG 701 and studio monitors for listening - mainly classical (western and indian), bollywood and all south indian music, soft rock etc. No heavy metal or hard rock or trance.
My reqs in the decreasing order of priority, budget of 50-60k.
1) Sound quality, this is the main reason for upgrade. Things like TA, equalisers become essential as they help in getting a good soundstage and tuning the system to my taste.
2) Bluetooth for office calls, USB and Aux input
3) Rear camera feed, this has become a safety issue for me - apartment has a lot of small kids and I am really scared as these kids play hide and seek around car parking !
4) Would have liked Android auto integration
After a lot of reading in the past 6 months and some PMs to various ppl in the audio forums, I had shortlisted on the following
1) Pioneer HU 5890 or Alpine 560E - around 30k with steering controls
2) 6.5 components for the front Morel tempo Infinity referene components (15k) or Alpine R series (20k)
3) Co-ax at rear, same company as components whichever i pick (6-8k)
4) Damping using dampmats (5k)
5) New panels needed on dash which is a bummer, this costs 4.5k
Amplifier was/is missing and thats intentional - budget + safety fear. I travel a lot with my small kid on the back seat strapped to a child seat. So I keep getting "nightmares" about having an amp and potential fire safety. I know a professional installer will ensure that this is not an issue, but it will take sometime for me to overcome my fear. So I was planning to do this later.
I was happy and on the verge of ordering this, found a friendly installer who also seems to have decent knowledge and he is nearby. So I picked him as I am mentally prepared for multiple visits to fix rattles, tuning etc. I stopped browsing the ICE forum for sometime as I kept changing my plans looking at the information posted here. I nearly started this process, but made the "fatal" mistake of coming back here this week and I am lost again.
The following points are the ones that bother me about the list,
1) Having come up with the list, I was never happy with the HU change as it meant a lot of work on the dashboard and 4.5k for the dash panel was a major irritant. I don't mind spending for something that will help in improving the audio quality, but this was adding nothing to that.
2) Not getting good android support was another put-off for me. I was/am very keen on Alpine HU thanks to SQ, but the 30k one didn't have that support. Pioneer also has support only on 8* series, which is another 5k. Although its not important now, I am wondering whether a 4-5yr plan makes sense without android support.
3) Lack of amp, leaving aside the safety issue - I was not happy that whatever HU I get, it alone wont get the full value out of the comps.
So I am now thinking that I will leave the HU and spend that money on a good amp. Use the pre-out or line converter and feed it to the amp. Now this will make the HU the weakest system in the link, but I am tending towards this direction for the following reasons.
1) Hoping that we get to see more and more HUs with Android support and good SQ in the next year.
2) Avoid any dashboard work, saves me some rattles.
3) Most importantly, investigate and understand the external sound processor approach - I am clueless about this now, any help is appreciated. I got this idea from reading GTOs thread about high end audio installs, NAvin and folks have talked about using such a system to reduce the amount of surgery on the dashboard.
What do you folks feel? I understand that SQ is going to be bad, but I am just looking at buying myself 6 months to 1 year so that I can decide on the approach for fixing the source issue. Will the current HU be so bad that this whole approach doesn't make any sense? Should I ditch this whole line of thought and just go with what I had planned originally?
If I ditch the amp path and stick to the original plan, does the above list make sense? Specifically the components, I don't mind spending 20k for the components - but based on theory and talking to some folks, the consensus seems to be that there won't be a big difference between a 15k or a 20k component. So I might spend the extra 5k on more damping.
I know the post is too long, but this whole ICE thing has been bugging me for a long time and this time I really want to act on it. This is the 3rd or 4th time in the last 5 years where I start planning and then drop the plans thanks to this kind of confusion :-).
Mods: If you feel that this should be a new thread, please move it. Given that I haven't bought or installed anything new thread didn't make sense for me. |