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gaddiwale · 23rd December 2009, 23:39

Gurus I have selected the following products for my Ritz -

1. HU - Kenwood KDC-MP6043U (50W X 4) = ~8000/- or Sony CDX GT696UT (52W X 4) = ~8000/-

2. Front speakers - Pioneer TS-A643 (280W) 16 cm 4 way or Sony XS-GTX 16402 (300W) 16.5 cm 4 way

3. Rear - Pioneer TS-G622 (180W) 16 cm, 2 way or Sony XS-GTF16252 (190W) 16 cm 2way (~1050/-)

what the Gurus said?

navin · 23rd December 2009, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaddiwale

2. Front speakers - Pioneer TS-A643 (280W) 16 cm 4 way or Sony XS-GTX 16402 (300W) 16.5 cm 4 way
3. Rear - Pioneer TS-G622 (180W) 16 cm, 2 way or Sony XS-GTF16252 (190W) 16 cm 2way (~1050/-)...what the Gurus said?

Most gurus here will not recommend Sony speakers and there are better speakers than Pioneer too. In your budget think JBL, Blaupunkt, Bull Audio etc..

greenhorn · 24th December 2009, 00:08

there are a lot of fake pioneer speakers ( and the originals don't sound too good anyway

)
Pio HU's are fine, but speakers ? nah!

mailmaldi · 25th December 2009, 17:24

gurus,
how do i ensure that watever ice'ing (amongst other things like security system) i get done on my new car does not damage anything in the car and doesnt void warranty. I mean apart from going to a known accessory shop.

gaddiwale · 25th December 2009, 21:52

Today I have done the ICEing of my Ritz Vdi. I have visited almost all the shops in and near Vashi. Though Gurus doesn't recommend Sony speakers as well as little sceptical about Sony HU, but after searching in the market I lost my confidence on the shops as market is full of grey market stuff. In case of Sony I was getting box pack current product and B&W. Before installation I had a demo of the speakers and found the quality is not that bad and everything was well within my budget. So I'm happy.

HU - Sony CDX-GT696UI
Front USB, Aux-In, Made for iPod and works with iPhone. 3 audio preouts (F, R and Sub out). Max power output 52W X 4 (@ 4 ohms). Can play MP3, WMA, AAC formats. Two colours illumination - Blue and Green.
MRP - Rs. 9900/-. Two years warranty.

Speakers - Sony XS-GT69402 (16 cm) for all four doors
Coaxial 4 way: Woofer 16 cm cone type, Midrange 3.5 cm B.D type, Tweeter 1.1 cm dome type, Super tweeter 0.8 cm dome type. Max. Power 300 W, Rated impedance 4 ohms, weight ~ 860 gms per speaker.
MRP - Rs. 3490/- for a pair. One year warranty.
Got a good deal of Rs. 14000/- for the whole package (HU - Rs. 8100/-, 4 Speakers - Rs. 5900/-)

Performance - Mainly I heard Bollywood songs, some instrumentals with good bass and FM. I'm satisfied with the quality of sound at low as well as high volume. Will post some pictures tomorrow.

greenhorn · 25th December 2009, 23:39

@ mailmaldi. stick around while they are installing stuff. make sure they dont cut any wires/break/damage anything. Ensure that the installers use a wiring harness, and make it clear to the installer that you dont want to cut anything, and that you will be watching. You may have to fork out a bit extra ( for the wiring harness etc)

binz · 26th December 2009, 00:28

Hey, help please!

Which is a better choice SQ wise:

Blaupunkt bahamas mp46 or a pio p1y ..

kumar7 · 27th December 2009, 15:58

Though there is a thread I opened for explicit requirement but thought to specific query here.

I wanted to go for GTO 1214 (1400W, Rs 5.5K) Sub but as its not available so dealer suggested me to buy GT5 1204BR (1100W, Rs 8K) Sub. I have JBL 1004 Amp which currently supporting comp 608c and other 2 channels are available for Sub.

For time being dealer suggested to use GT5 1204BR (obviously I paid for it) till he arrange GTO 1214 (he said he will try but don't want to commit). He will take back GT5 1204BR after few days if I don't want to go with it.

What you recommend?

kumar7 · 27th December 2009, 15:58

Though there is a thread I opened for explicit requirement but thought to specific query here.

I wanted to go for GTO 1214 (1400W, Rs 5.5K) Sub but as its not available so dealer suggested me to buy GT5 1204BR (1100W, Rs 8K) Sub. I have JBL 1004 Amp which currently supporting comp 608c and other 2 channels are available for Sub.

For time being dealer suggested to use GT5 1204BR (obviously I paid for it) till he arrange GTO 1214 (he said he will try but don't want to commit). He will take back GT5 1204BR after few days if I don't want to go with it.

What you recommend?

Mod: My laptop was hanged so didn't realized so could you please delete other similar posts.

nura · 27th December 2009, 16:15

I was looking at the specificatons of some speakers & under the heading Thermal Protection I found HALO + PTC. What do the terms HALO & PTC mean? Googling didn't help. Some of the speakers had only PTC under the same heading.
Thanks in advance for your replies.

harry10 · 28th December 2009, 02:50

Need urgent ICE advice from knowledged bhpians-

Headunit- Pioneer 2190 for 5500 bucks and 3190 for 6000. Which one to take? Priority for HU was usb and both had them.
Speakers- Require the front and back ones both. Budget for speakers 6-7k.
Amp- Is this required?

Anything else required?
Total budget is between 10-15k
Kindly reply urgently.
Thanks!!

navin · 28th December 2009, 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry10

Headunit- Pioneer 2190 for 5500 bucks and 3190 for 6000. Which one to take? Priority for HU was usb and both had them.
Speakers- Require the front and back ones both. Budget for speakers 6-7k.

Take the 2190 an use the extra 500 to get some damping done. Even a little bit of damping in the doors helps a lot.

harry10 · 28th December 2009, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

Take the 2190 an use the extra 500 to get some damping done. Even a little bit of damping in the doors helps a lot.

Thanks!
What about speakers and amp?

navin · 28th December 2009, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry10

Thanks!
What about speakers and amp?

a decent amp will cost about 6-7K so unless you have the budget for that (plus for RCA cable etc..) you can alwasy add that later.

for about 7K you can get 4 JBL GT5 or Bull Audio 6" coax speakers for the front and rear. Just stay away from Sony etc.. stick to a company that does speakers well.

Technocrat · 28th December 2009, 13:47

Ok before you laugh this is a genuine query.

I am not asking it to be used a full range but only for Mid Bass

Say I want a Front only setup & want good bass & my car's door's cant accommodate an 8 inch mid bass which is both big & expensive.

Now theoretically a 6X9 has effective surface area of an 8 inch woofer.

So if it is fed the right set of frequency wouldn't this save both space & money?

The only constraint I can think of is that most if not all 6X9s are designed for bigger enclosures(Boot) which it might not get in the door.

Is this the only limiting reason or is there more to it?

23rd December 2009, 23:39	#9826
gaddiwale BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 400 Thanked: 79 Times	Gurus I have selected the following products for my Ritz - 1. HU - Kenwood KDC-MP6043U (50W X 4) = ~8000/- or Sony CDX GT696UT (52W X 4) = ~8000/- 2. Front speakers - Pioneer TS-A643 (280W) 16 cm 4 way or Sony XS-GTX 16402 (300W) 16.5 cm 4 way 3. Rear - Pioneer TS-G622 (180W) 16 cm, 2 way or Sony XS-GTF16252 (190W) 16 cm 2way (~1050/-) what the Gurus said?
	() Thanks

24th December 2009, 00:08	#9828
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,835 Thanked: 4,713 Times View My Garage	there are a lot of fake pioneer speakers ( and the originals don't sound too good anyway ) Pio HU's are fine, but speakers ? nah!
	() Thanks

25th December 2009, 17:24	#9829
mailmaldi BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 37 Thanked: 0 Times	gurus, how do i ensure that watever ice'ing (amongst other things like security system) i get done on my new car does not damage anything in the car and doesnt void warranty. I mean apart from going to a known accessory shop.
	() Thanks

25th December 2009, 21:52	#9830
gaddiwale BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 400 Thanked: 79 Times	Today I have done the ICEing of my Ritz Vdi. I have visited almost all the shops in and near Vashi. Though Gurus doesn't recommend Sony speakers as well as little sceptical about Sony HU, but after searching in the market I lost my confidence on the shops as market is full of grey market stuff. In case of Sony I was getting box pack current product and B&W. Before installation I had a demo of the speakers and found the quality is not that bad and everything was well within my budget. So I'm happy. HU - Sony CDX-GT696UI Front USB, Aux-In, Made for iPod and works with iPhone. 3 audio preouts (F, R and Sub out). Max power output 52W X 4 (@ 4 ohms). Can play MP3, WMA, AAC formats. Two colours illumination - Blue and Green. MRP - Rs. 9900/-. Two years warranty. Speakers - Sony XS-GT69402 (16 cm) for all four doors Coaxial 4 way: Woofer 16 cm cone type, Midrange 3.5 cm B.D type, Tweeter 1.1 cm dome type, Super tweeter 0.8 cm dome type. Max. Power 300 W, Rated impedance 4 ohms, weight ~ 860 gms per speaker. MRP - Rs. 3490/- for a pair. One year warranty. Got a good deal of Rs. 14000/- for the whole package (HU - Rs. 8100/-, 4 Speakers - Rs. 5900/-) Performance - Mainly I heard Bollywood songs, some instrumentals with good bass and FM. I'm satisfied with the quality of sound at low as well as high volume. Will post some pictures tomorrow. Last edited by gaddiwale : 25th December 2009 at 21:55.
	() Thanks

25th December 2009, 23:39	#9831
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,835 Thanked: 4,713 Times View My Garage	@ mailmaldi. stick around while they are installing stuff. make sure they dont cut any wires/break/damage anything. Ensure that the installers use a wiring harness, and make it clear to the installer that you dont want to cut anything, and that you will be watching. You may have to fork out a bit extra ( for the wiring harness etc)
	() Thanks

26th December 2009, 00:28	#9832
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	Hey, help please! Which is a better choice SQ wise: Blaupunkt bahamas mp46 or a pio p1y ..
	() Thanks

27th December 2009, 15:58	#9833
kumar7 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 320 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Though there is a thread I opened for explicit requirement but thought to specific query here. I wanted to go for GTO 1214 (1400W, Rs 5.5K) Sub but as its not available so dealer suggested me to buy GT5 1204BR (1100W, Rs 8K) Sub. I have JBL 1004 Amp which currently supporting comp 608c and other 2 channels are available for Sub. For time being dealer suggested to use GT5 1204BR (obviously I paid for it) till he arrange GTO 1214 (he said he will try but don't want to commit). He will take back GT5 1204BR after few days if I don't want to go with it. What you recommend?
	() Thanks

27th December 2009, 15:58	#9834
kumar7 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 320 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Though there is a thread I opened for explicit requirement but thought to specific query here. I wanted to go for GTO 1214 (1400W, Rs 5.5K) Sub but as its not available so dealer suggested me to buy GT5 1204BR (1100W, Rs 8K) Sub. I have JBL 1004 Amp which currently supporting comp 608c and other 2 channels are available for Sub. For time being dealer suggested to use GT5 1204BR (obviously I paid for it) till he arrange GTO 1214 (he said he will try but don't want to commit). He will take back GT5 1204BR after few days if I don't want to go with it. What you recommend? Mod: My laptop was hanged so didn't realized so could you please delete other similar posts. Last edited by kumar7 : 27th December 2009 at 16:01.
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27th December 2009, 16:15	#9835
nura BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 603 Thanked: 18 Times	I was looking at the specificatons of some speakers & under the heading Thermal Protection I found HALO + PTC. What do the terms HALO & PTC mean? Googling didn't help. Some of the speakers had only PTC under the same heading. Thanks in advance for your replies.
	() Thanks

28th December 2009, 02:50	#9836
harry10 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Faridabad/Delhi Posts: 2,740 Thanked: 3,899 Times View My Garage	Urgent!! Need urgent ICE advice from knowledged bhpians- Headunit- Pioneer 2190 for 5500 bucks and 3190 for 6000. Which one to take? Priority for HU was usb and both had them. Speakers- Require the front and back ones both. Budget for speakers 6-7k. Amp- Is this required? Anything else required? Total budget is between 10-15k Kindly reply urgently. Thanks!!
	() Thanks

28th December 2009, 13:47	#9840
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,815 Thanked: 2,702 Times	Ok before you laugh this is a genuine query. I am not asking it to be used a full range but only for Mid Bass Say I want a Front only setup & want good bass & my car's door's cant accommodate an 8 inch mid bass which is both big & expensive. Now theoretically a 6X9 has effective surface area of an 8 inch woofer. So if it is fed the right set of frequency wouldn't this save both space & money? The only constraint I can think of is that most if not all 6X9s are designed for bigger enclosures(Boot) which it might not get in the door. Is this the only limiting reason or is there more to it?
	() Thanks