Car Audio Advice from the Audio Gurus: Use "Search thread" before posting a new Q!

navin · 9th May 2009, 10:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Yes, it is deep in the annals of this thread and was great fun.

Sam I am begingin to worry about you. First your preference for having it facing the rear and now "deep annals"?

My, my, maybe Jenny should visit the ICE section more often!

low_bass_makker · 9th May 2009, 11:37

Corrugated box....I presume.

jaibir · 10th May 2009, 13:05

I upgraded the ICE setup in my Swift yesterday. Here is what I have now:

HU: Pioneer 4050
Fronts: Illusion Electra 6.1 components (upgraded yesterday)
Rear: JBL 937 on a MDF tray
Amp: JBL 1004 (added new)
Wiring: ground zero and monster

Got the install done from FM Drive (Pankaj Bhai).

While tuning the system, the shortcomings of the rears became quite apparent. I dont know if they are defective or are designed that way but the bass was a bit too loose (as if the speakers couldnt quite handle the power). Pankaj Bhai tuned the system so that the overall sound stage sounds quite good, but I cant help feeling that a better rear solution is warranted.

Would appreciate some inputs on what to install in the rear in lieu of the JBL 937's:
a) a new pair of 6x9's? If so which ones?
b) a Sub. If so which one and what type of install? would like to retain as much boot space as possible if going with a sub

I still have the GT5 2-way speakers and GTO tweeters I was using the front earlier, if needed.

My upgrade budget started out at 10k and has already reached 22k. I guess I can add another 8k or so for the rest of the upgrade. I mostly listen to rock (spectrum from Emerson Lake and Palmer to Megadeth). The Mrs. occasionally likes to listen to hindi movie songs.

amit_mechengg · 10th May 2009, 13:12

@ Jaibir, i have the same setup as yours. i too have 937 in the rears. the bass is adequate, but i prefer not to fire them at the rear. i just play the illusions in the front and the sub in the rear. no need of vocals from the rear.
i suggest you to go for a sub. since you already have a 1004 jbl amp you can go for a GZ sub, i have a MK2 but i think now its not available. 30T is another option.

jaibir · 14th May 2009, 12:03

Leaning towards the sub to be powered off the 1004. Only worry is how to make it removable for when I need the luggage space. Specifically, can the set up be made in such a way that the amp power can be switched to the rear ovals when the sub is removed? Has anyone tried this?

In case this isnt possible, can I run just 2 of the 4 channels on the 1004 when the sub is removed? will this harm the amp of the components up front?

Sam Kapasi · 14th May 2009, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaibir

Rear: JBL 937
I dont know if they are defective or are designed that way but the bass was a bit too loose (as if the speakers couldnt quite handle the power). Pankaj Bhai tuned the system so that the overall sound stage sounds quite good, but I cant help feeling that a better rear solution is warranted.

Would appreciate some inputs on what to install in the rear in lieu of the JBL 937's:
a) a new pair of 6x9's? If so which ones?

HEY,

Do you have the GTO937 or the GTO937SE?

GTO937 was discontinued in late 2006/early 2007 and GTO937SE was discontinued in early 2008. If you do have GTO937, I'm guessing it's been kept on the shelf for too long. If stored badly it may not sound right, especially if the cone/surround/spider is loose/moist,

That could be one reason it doesn't sound right. Just letting you know.

jaibir · 14th May 2009, 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

HEY,

Do you have the GTO937 or the GTO937SE?

GTO937 was discontinued in late 2006/early 2007 and GTO937SE was discontinued in early 2008. If you do have GTO937, I'm guessing it's been kept on the shelf for too long. If stored badly it may not sound right, especially if the cone/surround/spider is loose/moist,

That could be one reason it doesn't sound right. Just letting you know.

I have the GTO937. Guess they were old stock (I bought them in early 2008). Thanks for the tip Sam.

goldie · 14th May 2009, 15:37

Hello Gurus...

My Boss has bought a new Skoda Superb Diesel May 09 Model...

He is considering a ICE upgrade, as the stock ICE does'nt sounds good to his ears...

He went to some guy in milan subway he usually use to (Mr. Gyaan), but he said he cannot messup in the wiring of this...

He wants to check in some installers with their quality n' stuff they have done, like
want to see n' listen their work n' then decide which one to go & what to go... Budget not a issue for him, will decide.

So by chance he asked me were to go, i suggested him the one i had heard about, Mr. Jacob Koshy from J & B Audio in Bandra... I gave his contact details to him, but the details are not up to date seems...

Mr. Jacob Koshy.
J & B Audio.
Ortens Enterprises, Plot No 239,
30th Road & Linking Road Junction,
Bandra W, Mumbai - 400 050.
Cell. No.: 98202 85812.
Off. No.: 2655 5493.
2651 1916.

The address seems to be wrong or he has shifted, n' none of the contact nos are working...

Others i will suggest him are,

1. Boom.
Mr. Zohir Ramodiya.
B 105, Gagangiri Co-op Society,
Union Park, Khar (W),
MUMBAI - 400 052.
Off. Nos.: 6770 6262.

2.FM Drive.
Mr Pankaj Chheda.
3, Sham Rock Building,
Main Avenue Road,
Santacruz W, Mumbai - 400 054.
Off. No.: 2600 1333.
E-Mail: fmdrive@rediffmail.com

3.MA Car Studio.
Mr. Asif.
Lamington Road / Andheri (W) / Bandra (W).
Cell. No.: 98216 16007 / 98700 16007.

4. Hermit Audio.
Mr. Ajay Kamat.
Cell. No.: 93204 47654.

5. Mr. Sam Kapasi.

For some i dont have the full contact details n' address, u ppl can fill in & add some more options if u knw some good ppl...

Please let me know the reviews from Gurus n' others @ t-bhp about the above mentioned names n' ppl i have heard from my netwrk of ppl...

Who can be the better / best for workin in such cars...

Do these ppl only install or they stock the hardware also...

Do they provide bill warranty or its grey mkt stuff...

Whose economical...

Thanks in advance for ur valuable inputs...

Goldie.

Sam Kapasi · 14th May 2009, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldie

5. Mr. Sam Kapasi.

Sir I do not sell or install car audio. I am the brand director for JBL in India but I cannot sell a few speakers and/or install them.

I would be happy to assist in any way I can, just can't sell him anything for his car.

goldie · 14th May 2009, 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Sir I do not sell or install car audio. I am the brand director for JBL in India but I cannot sell a few speakers and/or install them.

I would be happy to assist in any way I can, just can't sell him anything for his car.

Ok Sir, i will keep in mind the same.

Thanks for your valueable input.

Goldie.

Sam Kapasi · 14th May 2009, 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaibir

In case this isnt possible, can I run just 2 of the 4 channels on the 1004 when the sub is removed? will this harm the amp of the components up front?

Except for the power supply, the 2 stereo channels share no common components and are independent of each other. Running 2 channels out of 4 makes no difference to the unloaded channels or the loaded ones. It will harm nothing.

Just make sure the sub cables don't touch each other, or everything will be harmed, lol.

karankapoor · 14th May 2009, 17:16

@ goldie why don't you your self pm sam kapasi .

the best bet would be hermit audio if looking in mumbai

Sam Kapasi · 14th May 2009, 17:25

Goldie, there is no need to post identical posts in 2 threads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by karankapoor

@ goldie why don't you your self pm sam kapasi .

KK, like I said to goldie.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Sir I do not sell or install car audio. I am the brand director for JBL in India but I cannot sell a few speakers and/or install them.

I would be happy to assist in any way I can, just can't sell him anything for his car.

And my contact details are available to a few friends on the forum who don't usually pass it on

goldie · 14th May 2009, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Goldie, there is no need to post identical posts in 2 threads.
KK, like I said to goldie.

And my contact details are available to a few friends on the forum who don't usually pass it on

Ok Sir, i would see that i dont post indentical post, but my only motive was to get the results / outcome / suggestions as soon as possible, cause my boss is impatient about this topic.

anyways i am still waiting for the valueable inputs from our people around.

keep pouring in.

Goldie.

abhayshanu · 14th May 2009, 18:43

Ajay from hermit has done a superb install, he has also done a octavia install.

9th May 2009, 11:37	#9377
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	Corrugated box....I presume.
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10th May 2009, 13:05	#9378
jaibir BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 317 Thanked: 50 Times	Upgrade part deux I upgraded the ICE setup in my Swift yesterday. Here is what I have now: HU: Pioneer 4050 Fronts: Illusion Electra 6.1 components (upgraded yesterday) Rear: JBL 937 on a MDF tray Amp: JBL 1004 (added new) Wiring: ground zero and monster Got the install done from FM Drive (Pankaj Bhai). While tuning the system, the shortcomings of the rears became quite apparent. I dont know if they are defective or are designed that way but the bass was a bit too loose (as if the speakers couldnt quite handle the power). Pankaj Bhai tuned the system so that the overall sound stage sounds quite good, but I cant help feeling that a better rear solution is warranted. Would appreciate some inputs on what to install in the rear in lieu of the JBL 937's: a) a new pair of 6x9's? If so which ones? b) a Sub. If so which one and what type of install? would like to retain as much boot space as possible if going with a sub I still have the GT5 2-way speakers and GTO tweeters I was using the front earlier, if needed. My upgrade budget started out at 10k and has already reached 22k. I guess I can add another 8k or so for the rest of the upgrade. I mostly listen to rock (spectrum from Emerson Lake and Palmer to Megadeth). The Mrs. occasionally likes to listen to hindi movie songs. Last edited by jaibir : 10th May 2009 at 13:09.
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amit_mechengg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 2,488 Thanked: 2,252 Times View My Garage	@ Jaibir, i have the same setup as yours. i too have 937 in the rears. the bass is adequate, but i prefer not to fire them at the rear. i just play the illusions in the front and the sub in the rear. no need of vocals from the rear. i suggest you to go for a sub. since you already have a 1004 jbl amp you can go for a GZ sub, i have a MK2 but i think now its not available. 30T is another option.
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jaibir BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 317 Thanked: 50 Times	Leaning towards the sub to be powered off the 1004. Only worry is how to make it removable for when I need the luggage space. Specifically, can the set up be made in such a way that the amp power can be switched to the rear ovals when the sub is removed? Has anyone tried this? In case this isnt possible, can I run just 2 of the 4 channels on the 1004 when the sub is removed? will this harm the amp of the components up front?
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14th May 2009, 15:37	#9383
goldie Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Jalgaon, Mumbai. Posts: 23 Thanked: 3 Times	Hello Gurus... My Boss has bought a new Skoda Superb Diesel May 09 Model... He is considering a ICE upgrade, as the stock ICE does'nt sounds good to his ears... He went to some guy in milan subway he usually use to (Mr. Gyaan), but he said he cannot messup in the wiring of this... He wants to check in some installers with their quality n' stuff they have done, like want to see n' listen their work n' then decide which one to go & what to go... Budget not a issue for him, will decide. So by chance he asked me were to go, i suggested him the one i had heard about, Mr. Jacob Koshy from J & B Audio in Bandra... I gave his contact details to him, but the details are not up to date seems... Mr. Jacob Koshy. J & B Audio. Ortens Enterprises, Plot No 239, 30th Road & Linking Road Junction, Bandra W, Mumbai - 400 050. Cell. No.: 98202 85812. Off. No.: 2655 5493. 2651 1916. The address seems to be wrong or he has shifted, n' none of the contact nos are working... Others i will suggest him are, 1. Boom. Mr. Zohir Ramodiya. B 105, Gagangiri Co-op Society, Union Park, Khar (W), MUMBAI - 400 052. Off. Nos.: 6770 6262. 2.FM Drive. Mr Pankaj Chheda. 3, Sham Rock Building, Main Avenue Road, Santacruz W, Mumbai - 400 054. Off. No.: 2600 1333. E-Mail: fmdrive@rediffmail.com 3.MA Car Studio. Mr. Asif. Lamington Road / Andheri (W) / Bandra (W). Cell. No.: 98216 16007 / 98700 16007. 4. Hermit Audio. Mr. Ajay Kamat. Cell. No.: 93204 47654. 5. Mr. Sam Kapasi. For some i dont have the full contact details n' address, u ppl can fill in & add some more options if u knw some good ppl... Please let me know the reviews from Gurus n' others @ t-bhp about the above mentioned names n' ppl i have heard from my netwrk of ppl... Who can be the better / best for workin in such cars... Do these ppl only install or they stock the hardware also... Do they provide bill warranty or its grey mkt stuff... Whose economical... Thanks in advance for ur valuable inputs... Goldie.
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14th May 2009, 17:16	#9387
karankapoor Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in the car!!! Posts: 1,675 Thanked: 6 Times	@ goldie why don't you your self pm sam kapasi . the best bet would be hermit audio if looking in mumbai
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14th May 2009, 18:43	#9390
abhayshanu BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 708 Thanked: 324 Times View My Garage	Ajay from hermit has done a superb install, he has also done a octavia install.
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