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Magma · 23rd October 2008, 23:27

understood your yetiness
thank you
i never thought of point no.2

kunaldhami · 24th October 2008, 09:21

Hi

My good friend just booked i10 Asta with Sunroof and we need advice for ICEing..car is to be delivered in mid November so we have some time to finalize the setup.

He is mostly listening remixed bollywood songs/hip hop etc..
Budget is around 30-35K excluding HU as car comes with integrated HU and

we do not want to spoil the OE look.

Yesterday we checked few shops. Most of the guys suggested 12" on

rear tray with 6X9 in rear and front compos..

After talking with the dealer who seemed to have good knowledge(Decent Motors) we short listed following

JBL Power Series compos in front door
JBL JBL GT5-1204BR SUB
JBL JBL GTO1004 amp to run compos+sub
and if needed co-axial in rear door.
some Chinese wiring kit

the whole setup was coming near 37K..

Now any suggestion?
some queries.

1)Any damping?
If yes then where?No dealer even knew about it.

2)Do we really need 6X9 for his listening tastes?

3)where in Surat can I listen to other brads like Ground Zero?

speedzak · 24th October 2008, 10:22

Convey our congrats to your friend.
Good choice of equipment there. JBL power series will be good for his listening preferences. You can opt for rear coaxials on the door as it will complete your sound stage. Get coaxials from the same series as your front components.

Contact Bass&Trouble to know about Ground zero and Illusion. Other brands like Rainbow, Bull audio etc.. are managed by Gunbir. Focal, Kicker etc.. are managed by PTC (not a member here). Contact each for their brands.

Magma · 24th October 2008, 13:18

your main concern should be arranging and asking your installer about how he will split the single preout provided by your stock HU into the two preouts you will require for your setup

kunaldhami · 24th October 2008, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magma

your main concern should be arranging and asking your installer about how he will split the single preout provided by your stock HU into the two preouts you will require for your setup

I do not get you much here but all installers said that a 4 chanel amp can be added but not additional mono block or 2 channel..

Gurus please help.is it problematic to add a 4 channel amp on OE HU?

@ Speedzak :
Thanks for the suggestions. Now need to search for dealers selling those brands in Surat..

DerAlte · 25th October 2008, 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunaldhami

I do not get you much here but all installers said that a 4 chanel amp can be added but not additional mono block or 2 channel..

Gurus please help.is it problematic to add a 4 channel amp on OE HU?
...

It all depends on whether the OE HU has Pre-outs or not. If it doesn't, then one has to either use speaker-level to line-level converters, or select amplifiers which accept speaker-level inputs.

For adding an additional amp, there would be 2 cases:
* If using an sl-to-ll converter, one can use a Y-cable to split the signal to connect the 2nd amp
* If the 4-ch amp has a Line-out (many amps from Blau, JBL etc. do), the second amp can be connected to the first amp's line-out

Select your amps carefully, and be patient. If you don't get right one directly in Surat, get them from Mumbai.

DjNik · 25th October 2008, 22:08

Gurus Plz help.
which would be the best amplifier to power the JBL 1502D-
Blau GTA 4 in bridged
JBL 1004 in bridged
JBL 3001 Mono
the 4 channel amps will even be used to power the front compos.
Thanx.

nvc_4125 · 25th October 2008, 23:27

nice to see that there are some people from surat...
it is better if u go to mumbai if u realy want a good sound quality...
in surat no car decore knows what is damping....
u can go through jolly car decore, chetan, car world, shree lakshmi....

navin · 26th October 2008, 08:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjNik

which would be the best amplifier to power the JBL 1502D-
JBL 3001 Mono

if all you want to do is power the sub get the mono.

DjNik · 26th October 2008, 08:24

Could somebody plz explain that how much power will be provided by each Amp.That is-
Blau GTA 4 in bridged
JBL 1004 in bridged
JBL 3001 Mono

Magma · 26th October 2008, 11:12

the blaupunkt about 175-180 rms @ 4 ohms
the JBL 1004 bridged 300 rms or more @ 4 ohms
3001 mono - 175-180 rms @4ohms - 225rms @2ohms and 300rms @1 ohm

i think the 1004 would be best since it solves your component AND sub amplification

if your sub is a 2 ohm dual voice coil then you can conect the coils in series and play it from the bridged op of the 1004 , or connect it in parallel and connect to the mono.
both amps in this condition would offer the same power to the sub ( i.e about 300 rms)

kunaldhami · 26th October 2008, 11:23

Called hyundai dealer and he said u can add 4 channel amp to stock HU.

So now I think we can go ahead with JBL JBL GTO1004.

or I thought of another option
get JBL GT5-A604 and run JBL GT5-A3001 mono amp from the preamp out of the 1st amp.

so which will be better option?

and please comment on the whole system we shortlisted which I posted in my previous post

Magma · 26th October 2008, 12:29

consider the mono only if your woofer is a dual voice coil.
if not then the 1004 will definetely have more power than the mono

kunaldhami · 26th October 2008, 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magma

consider the mono only if your woofer is a dual voice coil.
if not then the 1004 will definetely have more power than the mono

We are thinking for JBL GT5-1204BR which I think is not dual voice coil..So 1004 will be better..Thanks.

akshay4587 · 26th October 2008, 14:03

need to upgrade speakers in the Accent
what are the options available in a strict budget ~5K.

23rd October 2008, 23:27	#8836
Magma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 361 Thanked: 2 Times	understood your yetiness thank you i never thought of point no.2
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24th October 2008, 09:21	#8837
kunaldhami BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Surat Posts: 152 Thanked: 82 Times	Hi My good friend just booked i10 Asta with Sunroof and we need advice for ICEing..car is to be delivered in mid November so we have some time to finalize the setup. He is mostly listening remixed bollywood songs/hip hop etc.. Budget is around 30-35K excluding HU as car comes with integrated HU and we do not want to spoil the OE look. Yesterday we checked few shops. Most of the guys suggested 12" on rear tray with 6X9 in rear and front compos.. After talking with the dealer who seemed to have good knowledge(Decent Motors) we short listed following JBL Power Series compos in front door JBL JBL GT5-1204BR SUB JBL JBL GTO1004 amp to run compos+sub and if needed co-axial in rear door. some Chinese wiring kit the whole setup was coming near 37K.. Now any suggestion? some queries. 1)Any damping? If yes then where?No dealer even knew about it. 2)Do we really need 6X9 for his listening tastes? 3)where in Surat can I listen to other brads like Ground Zero?
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24th October 2008, 10:22	#8838
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Convey our congrats to your friend. Good choice of equipment there. JBL power series will be good for his listening preferences. You can opt for rear coaxials on the door as it will complete your sound stage. Get coaxials from the same series as your front components. Contact Bass&Trouble to know about Ground zero and Illusion. Other brands like Rainbow, Bull audio etc.. are managed by Gunbir. Focal, Kicker etc.. are managed by PTC (not a member here). Contact each for their brands.
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24th October 2008, 13:18	#8839
Magma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 361 Thanked: 2 Times	your main concern should be arranging and asking your installer about how he will split the single preout provided by your stock HU into the two preouts you will require for your setup
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25th October 2008, 22:08	#8842
DjNik BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kolkata Posts: 340 Thanked: 3 Times	Amplifier Gurus Plz help. which would be the best amplifier to power the JBL 1502D- Blau GTA 4 in bridged JBL 1004 in bridged JBL 3001 Mono the 4 channel amps will even be used to power the front compos. Thanx.
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25th October 2008, 23:27	#8843
nvc_4125 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Surat Posts: 40 Thanked: Once	nice to see that there are some people from surat... it is better if u go to mumbai if u realy want a good sound quality... in surat no car decore knows what is damping.... u can go through jolly car decore, chetan, car world, shree lakshmi....
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26th October 2008, 08:24	#8845
DjNik BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kolkata Posts: 340 Thanked: 3 Times	Could somebody plz explain that how much power will be provided by each Amp.That is- Blau GTA 4 in bridged JBL 1004 in bridged JBL 3001 Mono
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26th October 2008, 11:12	#8846
Magma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 361 Thanked: 2 Times	the blaupunkt about 175-180 rms @ 4 ohms the JBL 1004 bridged 300 rms or more @ 4 ohms 3001 mono - 175-180 rms @4ohms - 225rms @2ohms and 300rms @1 ohm i think the 1004 would be best since it solves your component AND sub amplification if your sub is a 2 ohm dual voice coil then you can conect the coils in series and play it from the bridged op of the 1004 , or connect it in parallel and connect to the mono. both amps in this condition would offer the same power to the sub ( i.e about 300 rms) Last edited by Magma : 26th October 2008 at 11:24.
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26th October 2008, 11:23	#8847
kunaldhami BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Surat Posts: 152 Thanked: 82 Times	Called hyundai dealer and he said u can add 4 channel amp to stock HU. So now I think we can go ahead with JBL JBL GTO1004. or I thought of another option get JBL GT5-A604 and run JBL GT5-A3001 mono amp from the preamp out of the 1st amp. so which will be better option? and please comment on the whole system we shortlisted which I posted in my previous post
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26th October 2008, 12:29	#8848
Magma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 361 Thanked: 2 Times	consider the mono only if your woofer is a dual voice coil. if not then the 1004 will definetely have more power than the mono
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26th October 2008, 14:03	#8850
akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,152 Thanked: 4,545 Times View My Garage	need to upgrade speakers in the Accent what are the options available in a strict budget ~5K.
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