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moralfibre · 27th June 2007, 13:02

Does anyone have experience in using "Eclipse" headunits (Made by Fujitsu). This query is for a friend who owns a car audio store and wanted to know if these headunits are good to stock? I saw a manual at his shop when I was there last time and they looked good dunno how they sound.

DerAlte · 27th June 2007, 13:02

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Originally Posted by mainak

okey ! nice job done in that post.
One more thing being greedy the way I am..what if i keep the in dash speakers there and get two more in the doors ....

Not a bad idea, unless the combined impedance causes problems to the HU.

But, even the 4" drivers sound quite nice in a Santro loaded on the HU. Did you try to match the levels of the amp and HU? If done properly, you might get good sound from the current setup without changing anything.

DerAlte · 27th June 2007, 13:07

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

Does anyone have experience in using "Eclipse" headunits (Made by Fujitsu). This query is for a friend who owns a car audio store and wanted to know if these headunits are good to stock? I saw a manual at his shop when I was there last time and they looked good dunno how they sound.

Are these the ones by Fujitsu Ten? They get good reviews in Japan, Germany other countries, but none of the car manufacturers has got them into India.
How are the prices like? That's normally the killer.

navin · 27th June 2007, 13:10

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Originally Posted by vid6639

Funny thing is it happens with certain cell phones. For example with my phone no such problem but when my dad's phone rings it happens.

going by this phenomenon I think what Der Alte said might be more correct. It just might have been that I switched cell phones soon after I sheilded the RCA wires (I dont know it was a ong time ago around 1996 or 97). Der Alte's explanation looks better researched but this does not have a solution.

and in this case your dad cellphone might be radiating more power than yours.

navin · 27th June 2007, 13:13

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Originally Posted by mainak

@LBM
was thinking if by just driving it by amps would help?
Finally i will go for door mods, if nothing els could be done..

The mods need not be as bad you think. If you dont mind loosing the OEM look then a spacer ring and some cutting might be all you need.

navin · 27th June 2007, 13:22

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Originally Posted by mainak

okey ! nice job done in that post.
One more thing being greedy the way I am..what if i keep the in dash speakers there and get two more in the doors ....

You could use the dash location for the tweeter but the other option (which requires 4 channels of amp power) is to get a pair of 6" woofers in the door and a 4" coax in the dash pod.

then you need a 4ch. amp that has HPF and LPF at say 200Hz. Let the 6" run LPF at 200hz and the 4" run HPF at 200Hz. with a good coax (Alpine, Infinity, Hertz Energy, Blau Velocity) you can get decent sound. The more traditional approach would be to leave the door pods unfilled and install the tweeter and woofer on the door as per LBM's pics.

But as the OLD MAN says why not tinker a bit with the fader setting and see if that helps.

navin · 27th June 2007, 13:24

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

Does anyone have experience in using "Eclipse" headunits (Made by Fujitsu)..

I have heard these and they are quite nice. They are also well repsected by the rest of the fraternity (see other car audio forums).

bottle · 27th June 2007, 13:40

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Originally Posted by bottle

hi guys got my gta4 amp installed but having an issue , when i rev the engine there is a whining sound from speakers which increases depending on how hard i rev .. initially it was quite bad but later the installer split the power wire along one side of car and rca cables on other side but after leaving i noticed the sound is still there slightly. any thoughts on the reason ?

guess its a fault with cables ? going again tomorrow to get it redone

just an update , the installer added a choke to one of the power lines from the head unit and problem seems to have gone ..

moralfibre · 27th June 2007, 13:53

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Originally Posted by navin

I have heard these and they are quite nice. They are also well repsected by the rest of the fraternity (see other car audio forums).

Navin any particular model numbers if you remember? Like for Alpines the 9830, 9833 and 9835 are the best.

esteem_lover · 27th June 2007, 13:53

whats a choke ?

Sam Kapasi · 27th June 2007, 14:00

A choke is essentially an inductor, a coil.
The DC resistance is low, AC resistance is high. That's as simple as I can get.
It is used in series with DC voltage, thereby reducing the unwanted AC content in the DC current.
A choke in series, in conjunction with a capacitor in parallel, will help in cleaning out the dirty AC content from pure DC. This is one of it's many uses.

DerAlte · 27th June 2007, 14:06

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Originally Posted by bottle

just an update , the installer added a choke to one of the power lines from the head unit and problem seems to have gone ..

Can you post a pic of what was put in? Will be great since anyone with the same problem will know what to do - and bless you!

navin · 27th June 2007, 15:08

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

Navin any particular model numbers if you remember? Like for Alpines the 9830, 9833 and 9835 are the best.

Of the top omf my head there was the 8xxx series and the Eclipse 5000. Then again I am not good with models and prices.

low_bass_makker · 27th June 2007, 15:13

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Originally Posted by DerAlte

Yeah, I know - LBM's setup is legendary here! Unfortunately the mix of comments it attracts would remind an uninformed reader of the adage "Dilli ka laddu, jo khaya woh pachhtaya, jo nahin khaya woh bhi pachhtaya"

Hahahaha god one sir and the correct way to explain my setup. so when are you coming to delhi for having the laddu from inside and the outside both.

tsk1979 · 27th June 2007, 15:27

Speaking of inductors, suppose instead of giving the wire straight to AMP(12V DC) I rotate it around a wooden stick 1" thick giving tight curls(20-30 curls).
This should remove high frequency noise(which I suppose most common car alternators have).
I will do this away from the amp and speakers so that the electromagnet formed does not foul up things.

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Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 7,000 Thanked: 2,469 Times View My Garage	A choke is essentially an inductor, a coil. The DC resistance is low, AC resistance is high. That's as simple as I can get. It is used in series with DC voltage, thereby reducing the unwanted AC content in the DC current. A choke in series, in conjunction with a capacitor in parallel, will help in cleaning out the dirty AC content from pure DC. This is one of it's many uses.
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tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,730 Thanked: 23,346 Times View My Garage	Speaking of inductors, suppose instead of giving the wire straight to AMP(12V DC) I rotate it around a wooden stick 1" thick giving tight curls(20-30 curls). This should remove high frequency noise(which I suppose most common car alternators have). I will do this away from the amp and speakers so that the electromagnet formed does not foul up things.
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