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satish_appasani · 14th November 2006, 16:52

Navin, I just found something wrong with my setup. When i was playing some Beetles CD, i noticed the vocals were coming from the left side and they were completely absent in the right. I used Balance to confirm that. The right speakers were just playing music without vocals. Again that differed from track to track. For some tracks it was ok.

So, thats some problem with wiring right? Is there anything particular i have to check. I am guessing the connections at crossovers were messed up.

Vid6639 · 14th November 2006, 17:11

Satish check the wiring. When you say left is it one speaker or from both the front and back left?
try using balance and fad to pinpoint the exact speaker.
It could be due to something else too and we can see accordingly.

Sam Kapasi · 14th November 2006, 18:22

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Originally Posted by satish_appasani

Navin, I just found something wrong with my setup. When i was playing some Beetles CD, i noticed the vocals were coming from the left side and they were completely absent in the right. I used Balance to confirm that. The right speakers were just playing music without vocals. Again that differed from track to track. For some tracks it was ok.

So, thats some problem with wiring right? Is there anything particular i have to check. I am guessing the connections at crossovers were messed up.

You had better hold on to your hat for this reply.

When stereo recordings were just out, most studios were so excited that they would pan entire instruments to one side. This was particularly most noticeable in some early beatles albums.
My dear Satish, the few beatles songs you have with the vocals completely in one channel, were recorded that way.
Now I am going to double up and laugh HAHAHA.

muni · 14th November 2006, 18:49

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

My dear Satish, the few beatles songs you have with the vocals completely in one channel, were recorded that way.
Now I am going to double up and laugh HAHAHA.

@Sam/ Navin: I have heard quite a few no of regional songs where the female vocals is comin from the left channel and the male from the right channel.

Aint that right from a normal listening perspective!??!
It gives a distinct stereophonic experience :-)

Vid6639 · 14th November 2006, 18:50

Oh man. Thats gonna drive any installation or techie guy mad.
Imagine taking the car to the installer and he having no clue at all even after checking every thing in the car.

Good one Sam.

Such a simple problem. unbelievable.

rsjaurr · 14th November 2006, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

My dear Satish, the few beatles songs you have with the vocals completely in one channel, were recorded that way.
Now I am going to double up and laugh HAHAHA.

Sam,i also thought of same and almost wrote a reply to him asking him to play some other music albums,more so latest ones.

hydrashok · 14th November 2006, 19:42

Congrats on your upgrade, Satish.

Why don't you consider Blaupunkt HUs? You will have at least 3 models to choose from, at a 10k budget. Else, I think a Pio with B&W would be the best bet.

navin · 14th November 2006, 21:01

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

This was particularly most noticeable in some early beatles albums..

Yes a lot of early beatles albums were first recorded in mono. later they shifted to dual mono before they moved to stereo. In fact I use some of these recordings to test for cross talk.

OT: Especially true of the music from my era it was said that the better the music the worse the recording. If you listen to some of the old Fleetwood Mac (when they were a Blues Band), Beatles, Chuck Berry, CCR, Jimi H., etc.. you'll know what I mean.

yes and Blau and Sony can also be considered (along with Kenwood and Clarion).

15th November 2006, 10:32

clarion dfz675mc? how is it? anyone used?

link:
Clarion U.S.A. | DFZ675MC

moralfibre · 24th November 2006, 08:50

URGENT:

I need the socket that should be wired behind a headunit to fit the stock wiring socket of the Fiat Palio. Most of the installers here do not know what I am asking for and recommend that I cut off the stock socket provided by Fiat ... pls help! What should I be asking these guys for?

Sam Kapasi · 24th November 2006, 09:08

You should be asking for the Harness, the wiring harness.

moralfibre · 24th November 2006, 10:49

Thanks Sam.. ! Will check and let you know...!

Vivekphadnis · 25th November 2006, 00:33

Will the harness be available at electronics spares shops?

navin · 25th November 2006, 11:20

usually the car audio shops obtain these harnesses.

MustangMan · 25th November 2006, 12:05

Hi Guys,

I searched the thread, but couldn't find the answer to my query. I just picked up a 2nd hand Palio 1.6

(sold my Zen Carbon, Delhi members might remember it - MP number). I want to know what is the speaker size of the stock locations. I understand there are six. I dont want to put speakers on the tray, can't handle the rattle.
Was thinking of a Pioneer Mp3 HU (nothing fancy - entry level)
Round coaxials on the doors (good brand - JBLetc)
Decent speakers in the rear factory slots

Any suggestions? Looking at a budget of between 10-15K, w bill/warranty.

Not too big on loud music, just want clarity.
Maybe get a woofer and amp later - only if required, I am not big on bass.

I was happy with my Zen setup - Sony MP3 HU, round on the doors and 6x9s on the rear tray - all Sony. Just want some entertainment in traffic.

My ICE knowledge is very basic, and much of it is from the Forum. Pls help guys.

14th November 2006, 16:52	#4681
satish_appasani Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,113 Thanked: 105 Times View My Garage	Navin, I just found something wrong with my setup. When i was playing some Beetles CD, i noticed the vocals were coming from the left side and they were completely absent in the right. I used Balance to confirm that. The right speakers were just playing music without vocals. Again that differed from track to track. For some tracks it was ok. So, thats some problem with wiring right? Is there anything particular i have to check. I am guessing the connections at crossovers were messed up.
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14th November 2006, 17:11	#4682
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,789 Thanked: 44,089 Times View My Garage	Satish check the wiring. When you say left is it one speaker or from both the front and back left? try using balance and fad to pinpoint the exact speaker. It could be due to something else too and we can see accordingly.
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14th November 2006, 18:50	#4685
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,789 Thanked: 44,089 Times View My Garage	Oh man. Thats gonna drive any installation or techie guy mad. Imagine taking the car to the installer and he having no clue at all even after checking every thing in the car. Good one Sam. Such a simple problem. unbelievable.
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14th November 2006, 19:42	#4687
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,528 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	Congrats on your upgrade, Satish. Why don't you consider Blaupunkt HUs? You will have at least 3 models to choose from, at a 10k budget. Else, I think a Pio with B&W would be the best bet.
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15th November 2006, 10:32	#4689
vidvai Posts: n/a	clarion dfz675mc? how is it? anyone used? link: Clarion U.S.A. \| DFZ675MC
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24th November 2006, 08:50	#4690
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,522 Thanked: 14,183 Times	URGENT: I need the socket that should be wired behind a headunit to fit the stock wiring socket of the Fiat Palio. Most of the installers here do not know what I am asking for and recommend that I cut off the stock socket provided by Fiat ... pls help! What should I be asking these guys for?
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24th November 2006, 09:08	#4691
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 7,000 Thanked: 2,479 Times View My Garage	You should be asking for the Harness, the wiring harness.
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24th November 2006, 10:49	#4692
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,522 Thanked: 14,183 Times	Thanks Sam.. ! Will check and let you know...!
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25th November 2006, 00:33	#4693
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	Will the harness be available at electronics spares shops?
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25th November 2006, 11:20	#4694
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,495 Thanked: 9,888 Times	usually the car audio shops obtain these harnesses.
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25th November 2006, 12:05	#4695
MustangMan BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi/Indore Posts: 231 Thanked: 9 Times	Hi Guys, I searched the thread, but couldn't find the answer to my query. I just picked up a 2nd hand Palio 1.6 (sold my Zen Carbon, Delhi members might remember it - MP number). I want to know what is the speaker size of the stock locations. I understand there are six. I dont want to put speakers on the tray, can't handle the rattle. Was thinking of a Pioneer Mp3 HU (nothing fancy - entry level) Round coaxials on the doors (good brand - JBLetc) Decent speakers in the rear factory slots Any suggestions? Looking at a budget of between 10-15K, w bill/warranty. Not too big on loud music, just want clarity. Maybe get a woofer and amp later - only if required, I am not big on bass. I was happy with my Zen setup - Sony MP3 HU, round on the doors and 6x9s on the rear tray - all Sony. Just want some entertainment in traffic. My ICE knowledge is very basic, and much of it is from the Forum. Pls help guys.
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