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sasi122 · 6th February 2006, 13:04

Thanks Sam, let me see wat i can do. Mostly I will increase my budget and get a sub and a amp.

navin · 6th February 2006, 13:46

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Originally Posted by sasi122

Hey Sam,
Wat wud be the perfect setup for a Swift and within a budget of 20,000 Rs.

perfect? wow! that is a big word.

For 20K I'd recommend spending 7.5-8K on the HU, 7-8K on the speakers and 5K on an amp.

HU: Alpine, Blaupunkt, Sony or (without bill and warranty) a Pioneer plently to choose from at 7.5-8K
Amp: Sony 504 (grainy but at 5K it is all you got)
Speakers: 6" Coax cost about 3.5K per pair, 6" components run about 5K per pair. 8.5K will get you components in the front and coax in the rear.
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8+5+8.5=20.5K
You still need 2K or so for the RCA wire and install.
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Total 22.5K

alternately get the JBL 60.2 for 6K instead of the Sony 504 and use the HU to power the rear coax.
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22.5K (above) - 5K (sony 504) + 6K (JBL 60.2) = 23.5K

If 23K is really over your budget then drop the components in the front for coax and save 1.5K.

sasi122 · 6th February 2006, 14:23

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Originally Posted by navin

perfect? wow! that is a big word.

For 20K I'd recommend spending 7.5-8K on the HU, 7-8K on the speakers and 5K on an amp.

HU: Alpine, Blaupunkt, Sony or (without bill and warranty) a Pioneer plently to choose from at 7.5-8K
Amp: Sony 504 (grainy but at 5K it is all you got)
Speakers: 6" Coax cost about 3.5K per pair, 6" components run about 5K per pair. 8.5K will get you components in the front and coax in the rear.
--------------
8+5+8.5=20.5K
You still need 2K or so for the RCA wire and install.
-------------------------------------------------
Total 22.5K

alternately get the JBL 60.2 for 6K instead of the Sony 504 and use the HU to power the rear coax.
--------------------
22.5K (above) - 5K (sony 504) + 6K (JBL 60.2) = 23.5K

If 23K is really over your budget then drop the components in the front for coax and save 1.5K.

This sounds gud, cant wait to setup all this.

amit1101 · 6th February 2006, 19:43

this seems to be a very silly question to ask but
can any one tell me why dont people use i pods, walkmans with ear phones and head phones instead of such costly car audio.

i agree if there are more than 1 ppl in car this wont work. lol
also ur body and bones will not be vibrating with base

1)is it unsafe to use headphones n earphones while driving ???
2)is car audio more safe
3) why dont we have head phone out in HU.
--PS
i just got sony nwe 107 network walkman(like i pod) and i cant resist my earphones while i drive dads zen or my activa.

navin · 6th February 2006, 20:00

beacuse driving with headphones on is outright dangerous. I would not advise it even at low volumes. but when chauffered I use my ipod with a nice pair of headphones. for more on nice headpones visit headphone.com or head-fi.com.

amit1101 · 7th February 2006, 00:39

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Originally Posted by navin

beacuse driving with headphones on is outright dangerous.

NAVIN JEE pls. can you explain this more,
how is it dangerous??, so i can change my bad habbit as soon as possible.

revtech · 7th February 2006, 01:29

for one.you cant hear the horn of cars around you.all sounds around you are totally blocked so you cant hear anything.no engine noise so you dont kknow if your over revving at times.

rev

navin · 7th February 2006, 09:03

amit, we drive by using almost our senses. vision, hearing, feel, and yes even smell (but not taste).

If you block out what is a very important sense you can get into an accident. In fact I am an advocate that there should be no moving things in a car no dangling stufff nead the rear view mirror, no jack in the box sitting on the dashboard. No distractions. Lord knows there are enough external inputs to keep all your senses busy.

I used to have a friend who was proud that he could wear his tie, drink coffee and shave while he was driving to work till he ran his car into a gas station. He left behind a wife and 2 kids. That was 15 yers ago. Traffic is a lot worse today.

amit1101 · 7th February 2006, 16:54

car audio boom box and others also block ur hearing senses, so they should be equally dangerous as headphones n ear phones.

navin · 7th February 2006, 17:01

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Originally Posted by amit1101

car audio boom box and others also block ur hearing senses, so they should be equally dangerous as headphones n ear phones.

absolutely that is why i have been advocating using sensible levels in the car. Given the current crop of car audio speakers (sensitivity about 87-90db/1W) I dont understand the need for more than 30-40W rms / ch in the car.

amit1101 · 7th February 2006, 19:50

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Originally Posted by navin

absolutely that is why i have been advocating using sensible levels in the car. Given the current crop of car audio speakers (sensitivity about 87-90db/1W) I dont understand the need for more than 30-40W rms / ch in the car.

thankz a lot navin and revtech
i will discontinue my earphones from now on,

Ajay · 9th February 2006, 17:09

[SIZE=2]Guys, Need some helping in choosing a sub for the Swift.How is the JL audio 8W?Have a Sony 504 installed already with Rockford Components and Rockford Coaxials at the rear. Appreciate your responses in this regard.many thanks.[/SIZE]

navin · 9th February 2006, 20:08

The 8W will do ok. What is the price? Hertx has a 8" called the EX200 that i hear is quite good too.

Ajay · 10th February 2006, 10:28

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Originally Posted by navin

The 8W will do ok. What is the price? Hertx has a 8" called the EX200 that i hear is quite good too.

Navin, Approx around 7k. Any info on how much the Hertz would cost ?

navin · 10th February 2006, 15:24

Hetz would run about 8K. Ask gunbir about exact price (offline). he sells them.

6th February 2006, 13:04	#2881
sasi122 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks Sam, let me see wat i can do. Mostly I will increase my budget and get a sub and a amp.
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6th February 2006, 19:43	#2884
amit1101 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: faridabad Posts: 77 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	this seems to be a very silly question to ask but can any one tell me why dont people use i pods, walkmans with ear phones and head phones instead of such costly car audio. i agree if there are more than 1 ppl in car this wont work. lol also ur body and bones will not be vibrating with base 1)is it unsafe to use headphones n earphones while driving ??? 2)is car audio more safe 3) why dont we have head phone out in HU. --PS i just got sony nwe 107 network walkman(like i pod) and i cant resist my earphones while i drive dads zen or my activa.
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6th February 2006, 20:00	#2885
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,285 Thanked: 9,457 Times	beacuse driving with headphones on is outright dangerous. I would not advise it even at low volumes. but when chauffered I use my ipod with a nice pair of headphones. for more on nice headpones visit headphone.com or head-fi.com.
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7th February 2006, 01:29	#2887
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,992 Thanked: 39 Times View My Garage	for one.you cant hear the horn of cars around you.all sounds around you are totally blocked so you cant hear anything.no engine noise so you dont kknow if your over revving at times. rev
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7th February 2006, 09:03	#2888
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,285 Thanked: 9,457 Times	amit, we drive by using almost our senses. vision, hearing, feel, and yes even smell (but not taste). If you block out what is a very important sense you can get into an accident. In fact I am an advocate that there should be no moving things in a car no dangling stufff nead the rear view mirror, no jack in the box sitting on the dashboard. No distractions. Lord knows there are enough external inputs to keep all your senses busy. I used to have a friend who was proud that he could wear his tie, drink coffee and shave while he was driving to work till he ran his car into a gas station. He left behind a wife and 2 kids. That was 15 yers ago. Traffic is a lot worse today.
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7th February 2006, 16:54	#2889
amit1101 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: faridabad Posts: 77 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	car audio boom box and others also block ur hearing senses, so they should be equally dangerous as headphones n ear phones.
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9th February 2006, 17:09	#2892
Ajay BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: B'lore Posts: 147 Thanked: 5 Times	JL Audio -8W [SIZE=2]Guys, Need some helping in choosing a sub for the Swift.How is the JL audio 8W?Have a Sony 504 installed already with Rockford Components and Rockford Coaxials at the rear. Appreciate your responses in this regard.many thanks.[/SIZE]
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9th February 2006, 20:08	#2893
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,285 Thanked: 9,457 Times	The 8W will do ok. What is the price? Hertx has a 8" called the EX200 that i hear is quite good too.
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10th February 2006, 15:24	#2895
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,285 Thanked: 9,457 Times	Hetz would run about 8K. Ask gunbir about exact price (offline). he sells them.
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