24th April 2009, 13:00
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Somehow, I always have this belief - do "jugaad" with things which are made in that manner (i.e. rough n tough desi types), & Don't mess up with "original" things which are made with high-level of technical expertise & finnesse. Linea stock system is not that bad. While its not great, its doable/ok. May be I feel so because I'm not a demanding music freak. I can understand the enthusiasm of music freaks in finding a way around to do this. | |
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24th April 2009, 14:41
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25th April 2009, 17:18
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How easy/difficult was it to fix 6" speakers in the front? Any cutting or modification of the door panels required? Do you think the same can be fixed in the rear as well? Thanks, Red-One. | |
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26th April 2009, 23:46
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Yes I definitely plan on auditioning a few clean speakers and appreciate the options provided by you. @prash thanks a lot for updating the thread with your experience will definitely be useful for me and other Linea owners who intend to ice their cars. also any issues with fitting the front compos in terms of space and what size coaxials can the stock space take? Last edited by pranava999 : 27th April 2009 at 00:00. | |
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8th May 2009, 10:42
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8th May 2009, 11:56
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My $.02 on the setup. First off, 30k is a decent budget but will eventually fall short. Unfortunate, but true  I'd do the ICEing in phases saving up every month and buying components as and when I have the cash (Incidentally, this is what I'm doing on my Palio right now). I'd suggest you should start with a front component speakers + 4ch amp + sub configuration and upgrade later. And another word of caution, do not commit to anything without sufficient research beforehand with respect to Warranty and the various choices available in brands. My first system was a disaster because I listened to an inexperienced installer rather than my ears and did not do enough research. Google is your best friend here. If I were you, this is how I'd tackle ICEing a brilliant car like the Linea. HU: You could leave the Factory fitted HU the way it is and run line level inputs to the Amp. I'm not sure about how much control the HU offers on various parameters like fader etc but it will never ever satisfy the music lover in you. Every audio component has a sound signature specific to it. So, if you run the HU off an aftermarket amp, you'll be feeding a heavily proccessed signal into the amp which has another signature (read EQ. Gurus pleas correct if I'm wrong) altogether. IMO, this is not a done thing. Budget 5k -10k. Choices: Kenwood 5039/5539, 6039/6539, 7529/8529, Clarion 785DXZ(IMO, the best in this price range), and various Pioneers and Alpines. Front compos: I'm not sure about the stock speaker sizes in the front, but knowing FIAT, it should be 5 1/4". You can easily fit in 6 1/2" compos with a spacer ring. A 6 1/2" is always better as the speaker can produce more frequencies due to the larger diameter and cone area. I also recommend you take a long hard look at 3-way component speaker systems. Audition as many different speakers as you can before you decide on what you want to buy. Budget 6k - 12k. Choices: Boston s60 (what I have. 6k and absolutely brilliant performance), Hertz, JL, Rainbow. Can't say about Bulls or Illusions as I haven't heard them. Amp: The heart of your system. Never ever skimp on this part. For your needs I'd say that pick up a 4 channel amp that puts out between 60-100w RMS per channel. Budget: 9k-15k. choices: Soundstream li'l wonder (mates really really well with the Bostons. 10.5k), Kenwood 8401 (what I have. 5k and very clean amp but not very powerful), JBL 1004(never heard it myself but a lot of people seem to like this. definitely worth a listen). Sub: A nice sub in a well designed sealed box will do wonders to your system. A good installer who knows box design parameters is a must. Subs are expensive so you might wanna wait for a couple of months and get a good one. I have a JBL CS1204 (2.2k) and it's just about ok. You can run the rear speakers off the HU or even put in the stock front speakers at the back if they fit. It's also a great idea to do some window shopping so you get a feel of the products available and the price range. You can audition my system over the weekend and I also know a couple of good installers who can tell you more. Feel free to PM me if you're interested. Whew, that was a long post. Happy ICEing.  Just for the record, I'm not commercially associated with brand. | |
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8th May 2009, 13:02
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Will have to compromise with the stock HU and hopefully work around its limitation with a compatible amplifier. The very thought of matching them sounds daunting and technically challenging for my limited audiophile ears as my objective is SQ to listen mainly to classic rock, blues and a smattering of house, jazz,and lounge. Like the idea of 3 way components, have been mulling over them for a while now and it's very enticing. However, creating space for the 3 ways and the crossovers are a concern and would entail quite a lot of work on the door panels Ultimately it all boils down to finding a good technically competent installer (which is easier said than done), who understands how to bring out the best SQ for the budget, but is also competent with the electrical setup  .Last edited by pranava999 : 8th May 2009 at 13:14. | |
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8th May 2009, 13:30
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have installed a sony 4 ch amp and that plays the speakers in the front doors. They are of earthquake brand. I had a tight budget so bought a sony amp for 3900 and the compos from earthquake for 3000. In the rear doors its the company fitted speakers that i am using right now. Had a 12 inch pioneer woofer which i had bought in 08. So now that is in the boot of my linea. Plus bought a woofer box for 550, a wiring kit for 550, 2 wooden rings for the 6 inch size for the front compos and paid 850 to the installer. Plus a wire for Rs 300 which runs from the amplifier in the boot till the front doors. Now the wiring part. The inputs that i am using in the amp is from the line level thing as ther is no RC out from the HU. The front compos are played on the 'b' channel from the amp and the woofer is wired on the 'A' channel. The rear doors speakers are powered from the HU directly. The system sounds much better than what was provided by fiat. Dont have many options on the HU apart from fading and adjusting the bass. Treble does not need to be adjusted as i have kept it on the max. The reason is that dont have much of a mid range from the existing set up. All in all i am happy with the sound but feel the vocals to do better. So for that i am planning to install speakers on the rear doors as well. Can gurus suggest on this please. I need to better the vocals as i am getting the base. Also it would be better if i would be able to increase the treble a bit. Things I can do :- 1) Get some normal 6-7 inch speakers and replace it in the rear doors. The existing wires will be used. So will the HU take the speakers well? Pls suggest on which speakers i should go in for. I dont wanna spend more than 4k for these speakers. 2) Go in for compos for the rear doors as well. But am afraid wont get vocals from it. Also i wont be able to power them from the amp as all 4 channels are being used. Can i go in for compos and wire it up from the channel from wher the front speakers are being played? Will the amp be able to take load of 4 compos speakers from 2 channel? And if yes than which brand compos should i go in for in which i will get good vocals? 3) I have one more spare amp and can use that for the rear door compos but the problem is that there is no pre out in the sony amp. And this amp does not have line level input. So i am stuck and cannot use the 2nd amp which clould have played the compos on the rear door. So is there any way i can use the 2nd amp??? Can i get a pre out from the 1st sony amp??? WILL WAIT FOR YOUR SUGGESTIONS. AND A WORD OF CAUTION. THE AMP REMAINS ON ALL THE TIME CAR IS USED. IT DOES NOT SWITCHES ITSELF OFF ALONG WITH THE HU. I GUESS ITS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE BLUE AND ME THING. MY AMP SWITCHES ITSELF OFF WHEN I PULL THE LINE LEVEL INPUT PLUG FROM THE AMP AND MIND YOU THEY ARE NOT THE POWER CABLES BUT JUST THE NORMAL SPEAKER WIRES. AND I HAVE NOT CONNECTED THE REMOTE (POWER) WIRE WHICH USUALLY SWITCHES AMP ON AND OFF ALONG WITH THE HU BUT STILL AM USING THE AMP. | |
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8th May 2009, 16:36
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9th May 2009, 11:02
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10th May 2009, 12:23
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10th May 2009, 13:35
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10th May 2009, 23:17
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hey buddy do let me know when u r done with all this. I have done my installation and there is a problem with the amp which does not switches off itself with the HU. Do let me know how does your amp work. And also let me know which Linea u using. I have a emotion pack one and it seems the problem is related to the Blue n me in it. Note from Mod : Please take the time to type out your posts in full words as per Team-BHP rules. Avoid the use of SMS language (u = you, r = are, etc), and please take the time to re-read your post for typos before submitting. Last edited by Rehaan : 11th May 2009 at 02:16. Reason: Please see the note that has been put at the end of your post by the Support Team. | |
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11th May 2009, 10:21
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