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Old 26th May 2009, 15:15   #331
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I almost this Hu from amazon, however just before making the payment it was working out to be $185 so I stopped, I guess it would be too expensive for me at that price. john got it for $154 few days back, so I have to check with from where he has got it.

In the meantime, can somesome share with me the difference between a 785 and 585 HU ?

PS : btw, I am targeting sub 20K ICE.
Check the first few pages of this thread. I think it has been explained there. Or check the link posted by Kedar in the very first post of this thread.

I believe the most basic difference is that 585 does not have Time Alignment.
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Thanks Nishant for point it out. I did a comparison between 786 and 586 and the main difference is time alignment only, and in 786 it says USB as a function and in 586 it says USB memory slot extension.

And I read something about time alignment, pardon my vocabulary in ICE, however I felt it meant that it allowed the system to focus the sound a particular point. Is it corrent ? is it worth it ?

The clarion India site mentions 786 model, can someone please tell the difference between the 785 and 786 and also what would be the price of the same in India (786).
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And I read something about time alignment, pardon my vocabulary in ICE, however I felt it meant that it allowed the system to focus the sound a particular point. Is it corrent ? is it worth it ?

The clarion India site mentions 786 model, can someone please tell the difference between the 785 and 786 and also what would be the price of the same in India (786).
1. TA is mostly a subjective feature. Those who have experienced it swear by it and cannot go back. I personally will damn make sure my next HU has TA. Clarion DXZ 785 has TA, so it's my future HU of choice.

2. I read somewhere that Clarion India does not stock 786. You might still want to call up the distributor and find out.
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Thanks Nishant for point it out. I did a comparison between 786 and 586 and the main difference is time alignment only, and in 786 it says USB as a function and in 586 it says USB memory slot extension.

And I read something about time alignment, pardon my vocabulary in ICE, however I felt it meant that it allowed the system to focus the sound a particular point. Is it corrent ? is it worth it ?

The clarion India site mentions 786 model, can someone please tell the difference between the 785 and 786 and also what would be the price of the same in India (786).
Time Alignment is definitely worth it. In any listening environment, the speakers are placed at different distances from the listener's ears. What TA does is to 'delay' the sound from all the speakers, so that all of it reaches the listener at the same time. This makes the song play more natural and balanced.

The 786 (India/Asia) and 785 (Europe) are essentially the same models, with different nomenclature for different markets. Its the same difference as Pioneer 5050 and 5090.
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Time Alignment is definitely worth it. In any listening environment, the speakers are placed at different distances from the listener's ears. What TA does is to 'delay' the sound from all the speakers, so that all of it reaches the listener at the same time. This makes the song play more natural and balanced.

The 786 (India/Asia) and 785 (Europe) are essentially the same models, with different nomenclature for different markets. Its the same difference as Pioneer 5050 and 5090.
Thanks for educating me on this. I guess I have pretty much decided on 786/785 now. Will try and check with the distributors in India, if they are stocking it and at what price, otherwise would order it online.

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me thinks you posted in the wrong thread there, greenh0rn!
lol..
anyways, I would love to add that one should not pass off TA, if they have the luxury of getting it. It's a beauty, once you have the entire system tuned, up and running.
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I would love to add that one should not pass off TA, if they have the luxury of getting it. It's a beauty, once you have the entire system tuned, up and running.
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1. TA is mostly a subjective feature. Those who have experienced it swear by it and cannot go back. I personally will damn make sure my next HU has TA.
I was one of the unlucky few who spent most of my ICE years when TA was not easily available. I remember a few installs with DSP being used but these were few and far between. Sam K had a restraunter friend who used DSP in his 118NE (along with Tara labs speaker wire and a host of exotic equipment). Remember Sam? :-)

In those days we had to work to get the bass to seem like it was coming from the front. The object was to get the front speakers to go as low as possible so the subs only have the last octave and half to manage. Then we had to very careful with the tuning of the sub etc.. and yet it was only on some songs that TA worked. On many songs all this care was not enough. TA has made life simpler.
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Old 27th May 2009, 21:05   #338
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Got the Clarion!!

Guys I got my Clarion DXZ785USB today. The wait was long but it was really worth it.

Installed it straight away myself.

Initial impression of the HU was fantabulous. Substantial improvement in SQ over the earlier Pioneer 5950. Built is solid. Not a fan of its display though. Yet to set the gains on the amps.

Plugged in my 16GB Thumb drive and voila the loading time isn't much.

Overall its a great package and a steal at the price its being sold at.
Highly recommended HU.

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Guys I got my Clarion DXZ785USB today. The wait was long but it was really worth it.

Installed it straight away myself.

Initial impression of the HU was fantabulous. Substantial improvement in SQ over the earlier Pioneer 5950. Built is solid. Not a fan of its display though. Yet to set the gains on the amps.

Plugged in my 16GB Thumb drive and voila the loading time isn't much.

Overall its a great package and a steal at the price its being sold at.
Highly recommended HU.

Sorry for uploading a poor quality pic.

Hey Congrats! Great choice. How much did you picked it up for and from where ?
Am sure you enjoying every bit of it.

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Congrats for the Clarion. I can understand your state of mind. I too upgraded from Pio 5050 to this and could see/hear the difference rightaway.
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Hey Congrats! Great choice. How much did you picked it up for and from where ?
Am sure you enjoying every bit of it.
Thank you. Got it from sonicelectronix.com. Price was around 139$+17$ local shipping. A relative of mine bought it for me.

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Congrats for the Clarion. I can understand your state of mind. I too upgraded from Pio 5050 to this and could see/hear the difference rightaway.
Thanks.
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This weekend I confirmed another benefit of this HU, My car cleaner doesnt know how to switch it on while he is cleaning the car
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Congrats Abhinav.
What is your setup as of now?
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Congrats Abhinav.
What is your setup as of now?
Thanks buddy.
Hmm setup as of now:

Clarion DXZ785USB
Bull 650.75 components
4-ch amp (china ka maal)
Pioneer DVC sub in a ported box
Pioneer mono GM-D510
Scosche RCA's

Not a great setup but i am content with the SQ as of now.
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Thanks buddy.
Hmm setup as of now:

Clarion DXZ785USB
Bull 650.75 components
4-ch amp (china ka maal)
Pioneer DVC sub in a ported box
Pioneer mono GM-D510
Scosche RCA's

Not a great setup but i am content with the SQ as of now.
Apart from the amp, seems to be a pretty good setup.
Congrats on the 785! I just got mine today
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