Check it out - My new audio system/setup

manticore · 17th April 2005, 21:51

Guys,

I've been configuring a new system for my car. The new car has not been decided on as yet, I'm still driving an M800. Nonetheless, I've started sourcing the various bits and pieces. Made a P-shop diagram of the layout...got everything except for the HU and the Audiobahn amp. Am confused whether to go for Sony/Pioneer/Alpine HU. Thnx to Gamerno1 and Iceman for their valuable help. Any suggestions??

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autopsyche · 17th April 2005, 22:07

Dude i have a Concorde V12 1000watt amp sealed lying with me, wanted to put that in my skoda but im still doubtful, lemme know if it interests you. Nice setup though that youre planning, im sure thatll be a lotta thump with the twin woofers.

autopsyche, you should put it up in the Market Place thread.

dragger · 18th April 2005, 01:37

dude i like the entire setup...youve got awesome speakers and yea the amp is nice..well the only thing that is beyond me is why a sony head unit...you should go in for a 9833 alpine with polk momo subs...trust me ive installed it in a lancer...they sound out of the world...hehe..anyways do use a capacitor for the setup ...advised 2 farad cap...if you do need any other info just pm me...cheers...!!

viper · 18th April 2005, 10:17

Hey Buddy,

Your setup is good , but I would suggest a alpine head unit. Also component speakers upfront would help in better imaging and you would tend to get clearer vocals.

You have a lot of bass but am sure you would appreciate good vocals as well.

Cheers

manticore · 18th April 2005, 14:17

Viper, I've already purchased my speakers. Components are out of my budget for the moment. The Alpines are really good, tried them out with the kind of music I frequently listen to, mainly techno and 60's-80's rock. Everyone seems to be preferring Alpine HUs, guess I'll finally settle on that. And Autopsyche, I'll getting the Audiobahn amp through a friend of mine in the US. Thanks guys.

Manti.

iceman91 · 18th April 2005, 17:14

well manticore thats an excellent head unit. i have it and personally i think it beats the alpine 9833 anyday.looks also very pleasing not too loud and awesome features. total paisa wasool maal!!
but i too would incline towards components..they are way way better
one more thing since you told me that you are more into trance and rock it would be better if you bought 2 monoblocks one for each sub rather than one amp for 2 subs. makes quite a difference in the double bass.
keep those subs and buy two alpine or sony monoblocks will be kicka$$.

manticore · 18th April 2005, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by iceman91

it would be better if you bought 2 monoblocks one for each sub rather than one amp for 2 subs. makes quite a difference in the double bass.
keep those subs and buy two alpine or sony monoblocks will be kicka$$.

Ice, I did a lot of exploring at the Crutchfield site. I had mailed them regarding the best suggestions for an amp to power the Xplod subs. They suggested the Audiobahn and a couple of other amps. I guess it has enough juice (800w RMS) to drive both the subs (2 x 380 = 760w RMS), doesnt it?

Sounding stupid here, but what is 'double bass' ?

Manti.

navin · 25th April 2005, 00:47

double bass as the term is used here i think is a misnomer. the only double bass i know is a bass guitar.

navin · 25th April 2005, 00:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by autopsyche

Dude i have a Concorde V12 1000watt amp sealed lying with me
autopsyche, you should put it up in the Market Place thread.

is it stereo? what are you expecting for it?

Beemer · 25th April 2005, 02:05

Well , manti go for the alpine HU (eyes closed) , they provide far more clarity than the pioneers and sonys . Anyways , nice set up bud . Do let all of us know once you get fitted .

gamerno1 · 25th April 2005, 04:32

firstly thats a superb setup manti. i dont think i can add/replace anything there.
regarding the HU, ive always said that sony HU's have the best anti-skip technologies for car audio units. may that be a single front loader or a multi cd changer. but the setup above can readily go with pioneer & alpine too.
pioneer = user friendly/VALUE FOR MONEY!!!!
sony = amazing anti-skip/descent features
alpine = higher voltage RCA outs (which keeps your amp healthy)

{i would pick the 7700 over pioneer/alpine if i were you}
& the 7700 is not 52RMS but 52max

& the new P5's are absolutely the way to go over pioneer subs. i installed 2 for a friend in a palio last month. & it killed every entry level subs (pioneer/kenwood/silicon) with ease. also, he is running a JBL GTO 601.1 which gives around 600w RMS. you can expect a sexy output from the audiobahn 8000t(no experiences but heard only good things)

& lastly, the capacitor depends on which car you will put the setup in.
~cheers & keep us updated

navin · 25th April 2005, 12:04

most head units will put out about 10W rms per channel. i wonder why they dont make HUs sans amps anymore. atleast the more expensive HUs where the buyer will be using an external amp anyway. I know todays amps are single chip designs but still the power drawn by the amp and heat generated by it cant be good for the HU's performance.

higher voltage RCA outs (4V and above esp) also improve the signal to noise ratio esp when the HU is driving amps that are many meters away and surround by all that switching noise in the car.

manticore · 25th April 2005, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamerno1

{i would pick the 7700 over pioneer/alpine if i were you}
& the 7700 is not 52RMS but 52max

My bad. Mixed up while doing the P-shop diagram.

And audio gurus of Team-BHP, this is a layout I made for a friend, who wanted a cost-no-object setup with bass as #1 priority and an LCD screen HU. Is it ok, any suggestions?

Manti.

Deeps · 25th April 2005, 14:39

Thats a pretty hardcore setup, Manti. Which car is your friend planning to put that on? And won't any mods be required to the battery, alternator etc.?

iceman91 · 25th April 2005, 15:23

you forgot power caps for it. will definitely need it for them.
also the setup is something like those which come on SUV if i am not mistaken or a really big car else he wont need 4 components as wellas rear fill in's.

17th April 2005, 21:51	#1
manticore BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cochin/New Delhi Posts: 298 Thanked: 8 Times	Check it out - My new audio system/setup Guys, I've been configuring a new system for my car. The new car has not been decided on as yet, I'm still driving an M800. Nonetheless, I've started sourcing the various bits and pieces. Made a P-shop diagram of the layout...got everything except for the HU and the Audiobahn amp. Am confused whether to go for Sony/Pioneer/Alpine HU. Thnx to Gamerno1 and Iceman for their valuable help. Any suggestions?? [IMG][/IMG]
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17th April 2005, 22:07	#2
autopsyche Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Delhi, Indi Posts: 1,519 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	Dude i have a Concorde V12 1000watt amp sealed lying with me, wanted to put that in my skoda but im still doubtful, lemme know if it interests you. Nice setup though that youre planning, im sure thatll be a lotta thump with the twin woofers. autopsyche, you should put it up in the Market Place thread. Last edited by Rudra Sen : 18th April 2005 at 07:34.
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18th April 2005, 01:37	#3
dragger BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: India-Mumbai-Colaba Posts: 350 Thanked: 6 Times	dude i like the entire setup...youve got awesome speakers and yea the amp is nice..well the only thing that is beyond me is why a sony head unit...you should go in for a 9833 alpine with polk momo subs...trust me ive installed it in a lancer...they sound out of the world...hehe..anyways do use a capacitor for the setup ...advised 2 farad cap...if you do need any other info just pm me...cheers...!!
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18th April 2005, 10:17	#4
viper BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 20 Times	Suggestion for your audio setup Hey Buddy, Your setup is good , but I would suggest a alpine head unit. Also component speakers upfront would help in better imaging and you would tend to get clearer vocals. You have a lot of bass but am sure you would appreciate good vocals as well. Cheers
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18th April 2005, 14:17	#5
manticore BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cochin/New Delhi Posts: 298 Thanked: 8 Times	Viper, I've already purchased my speakers. Components are out of my budget for the moment. The Alpines are really good, tried them out with the kind of music I frequently listen to, mainly techno and 60's-80's rock. Everyone seems to be preferring Alpine HUs, guess I'll finally settle on that. And Autopsyche, I'll getting the Audiobahn amp through a friend of mine in the US. Thanks guys. Manti.
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18th April 2005, 17:14	#6
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	well manticore thats an excellent head unit. i have it and personally i think it beats the alpine 9833 anyday.looks also very pleasing not too loud and awesome features. total paisa wasool maal!! but i too would incline towards components..they are way way better one more thing since you told me that you are more into trance and rock it would be better if you bought 2 monoblocks one for each sub rather than one amp for 2 subs. makes quite a difference in the double bass. keep those subs and buy two alpine or sony monoblocks will be kicka$$. Last edited by iceman91 : 18th April 2005 at 17:17.
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25th April 2005, 00:47	#8
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,460 Thanked: 9,830 Times	double bass as the term is used here i think is a misnomer. the only double bass i know is a bass guitar.
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25th April 2005, 02:05	#10
Beemer BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: delhi Posts: 384 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	Well , manti go for the alpine HU (eyes closed) , they provide far more clarity than the pioneers and sonys . Anyways , nice set up bud . Do let all of us know once you get fitted .
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25th April 2005, 04:32	#11
gamerno1 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Andheri (w), Mumbai Posts: 408 Thanked: Once View My Garage	firstly thats a superb setup manti. i dont think i can add/replace anything there. regarding the HU, ive always said that sony HU's have the best anti-skip technologies for car audio units. may that be a single front loader or a multi cd changer. but the setup above can readily go with pioneer & alpine too. pioneer = user friendly/VALUE FOR MONEY!!!! sony = amazing anti-skip/descent features alpine = higher voltage RCA outs (which keeps your amp healthy) {i would pick the 7700 over pioneer/alpine if i were you} & the 7700 is not 52RMS but 52max & the new P5's are absolutely the way to go over pioneer subs. i installed 2 for a friend in a palio last month. & it killed every entry level subs (pioneer/kenwood/silicon) with ease. also, he is running a JBL GTO 601.1 which gives around 600w RMS. you can expect a sexy output from the audiobahn 8000t(no experiences but heard only good things) & lastly, the capacitor depends on which car you will put the setup in. ~cheers & keep us updated
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25th April 2005, 12:04	#12
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,460 Thanked: 9,830 Times	most head units will put out about 10W rms per channel. i wonder why they dont make HUs sans amps anymore. atleast the more expensive HUs where the buyer will be using an external amp anyway. I know todays amps are single chip designs but still the power drawn by the amp and heat generated by it cant be good for the HU's performance. higher voltage RCA outs (4V and above esp) also improve the signal to noise ratio esp when the HU is driving amps that are many meters away and surround by all that switching noise in the car.
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25th April 2005, 14:39	#14
Deeps Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Delhi/Noida Posts: 1,119 Thanked: 170 Times	Thats a pretty hardcore setup, Manti. Which car is your friend planning to put that on? And won't any mods be required to the battery, alternator etc.?
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25th April 2005, 15:23	#15
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	you forgot power caps for it. will definitely need it for them. also the setup is something like those which come on SUV if i am not mistaken or a really big car else he wont need 4 components as wellas rear fill in's.
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