[Leistung]

Originally Posted by Sprucegoose

@frank: Thanx man...
How can i find out if its an authentic DLS Amp.

Which series is it? Performance, Reference or Ultimate? DLS doesn't come at such a low price usually and the market if flooded with fake amplifiers. Beware.

Originally Posted by Mi10

DLS Reference RA20 - DLS Reference RA20 (dlsra20) 2-Channel Amps Car Amplifiers Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix

The DLS RA20 is a great amp. I've used the reference amps in my previous setup. They aren't brash and have an amazing control over sound. I suggest you get the RA10 mono amp to drive your subwoofer. DLS experience is very unique.

Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

DLS is the best of the lot...

You're right, it not very well known here in India. They are simply superb and have great sound quality.

Originally Posted by procircuit_234

which mono amps should be considered for SPL setup?i am planing to run 2 subs(havent decided which one)budget 25-50k.for amp.

I've used the Audison Lrx 1.1k and is an amazing amp. I switched over to DLS ultimate A6 and that is the amp i wouldn't want to change. It digs deep and not brash. It is in control at higher volumes and very detailed. You should audition the DLS.

Originally Posted by naturaldisaster

hi all. i have recently ordered Morel Tempo 6 components. only thing i have heard is the similar price range is Hertz Energy, some Focal and ID CTX. but i have never auditioned these Morels. does anyone own these things? please share how they are. i hope i made the right. decision.

car - swift

Amp - Kenwood KAC 8401 4 channel bridged.

Good choice. The Morels produce very detailed sound. The mid bass is good and the tweeter not very bright. What you get is a natural sound. You'll surely love but make sure you have a good amp to match it else you'll never get to know how good the speakers are.

Its surprising nobody has mentioned the DLS TA2 amplifier. This is one of a kind amplifier tube amplifier. A pure sound quality 2 ch amplifier that is used in in most EMMA winning cars since its inception. They produce a warm sound that you wouldn't generally find in other amplifiers. This has to be paired with high end components to get the best.

I have one in my setup paired with DLS Ultimate Nordica 6.2 and I can't be happier- I just love it!!

[navin]

Originally Posted by Leistung

Its surprising nobody has mentioned the DLS TA2 amplifier....I have one in my setup paired with DLS Ultimate Nordica 6.2 and I can't be happier- I just love it!!

Superb set up. What source do you use? The Alpine 117 with Imprint?

We'd love to see pictures of your set up. In fact we have a whole section for this Sound Off and Show Off - Team-BHP

Originally Posted by Leistung

You're right, it not very well known here in India. They are simply superb and have great sound quality.

DLS is pretty well known and respected here. In the past there were some issues with after sales service which resulted in some ICEers staynig away from the brand but I do NOT know if these have been resolved.

[Leistung]

Originally Posted by navin

Superb set up. What source do you use? The Alpine 117 with Imprint?

We'd love to see pictures of your set up. In fact we have a whole section for this Sound Off and Show Off - Team-BHP



DLS is pretty well known and respected here. In the past there were some issues with after sales service which resulted in some ICEers staynig away from the brand but I do NOT know if these have been resolved.

My head unit is an Alpine CDA 9887. True, support for DLS is scarce which has somewhat affected the popularity of it in India. The guys in DLS Sweden are very accessible and friendly and willing to help on any advise required on installation. Dawid Koniarski is the guy who designs the speakers and was of great help and gave me a lot of inputs for installation, a very down to earth guy and is more than happy to interact with customers. I'm sure it wouldn't have been possible to interact with people at his level in other companies.

[Thumper1604]

Guys, I am posting this on behalf of a friend who is confused between 3 amplifiers - Rockford Fosgate R400-4D (Rs. 9700), Blaupunkt GTA 470 SF (Rs. 7500) & Blaupunkt GTA 470 DSP (Rs. 12400). Please suggest which one is best as the price for all these are in the budget.
The car is a Maruti Suzuki Swift with Kicker CS Components in the front and JBL GTO 949 in the rear (both 100W RMS) and also he is planning to add a sub. So the amp will supply to front components and the sub.

[DerAlte]

Originally Posted by Thumper1604

... Rockford Fosgate R400-4D (Rs. 9700), Blaupunkt GTA 470 SF (Rs. 7500) & Blaupunkt GTA 470 DSP (Rs. 12400)...

Assuming that the HU is without Time Alignment, the GTA 470DSP would be the best, since it provides delay using DSP. Not full blown Time Alignment, but a rudimentary one that should improve the front image. Regular TA would cost much more, either with a new HU or with a Signal Processor.

[Thumper1604]

Originally Posted by DerAlte

Assuming that the HU is without Time Alignment, the GTA 470DSP would be the best, since it provides delay using DSP. Not full blown Time Alignment, but a rudimentary one that should improve the front image. Regular TA would cost much more, either with a new HU or with a Signal Processor.

Also, I am confused if the speaker set has 100W RMS output then an amplifier with 50W RMS/channel would be best for it right?
The Blaupunkt GTA 470 DSP has 70W RMS/channel so won't it damage the speakers?

[DerAlte]

Originally Posted by Thumper1604

Also, I am confused if the speaker set has 100W RMS output then an amplifier with 50W RMS/channel would be best for it right? ...

No, nothing like that. Those wattages are safe maxima beyond which there is a deterioration in output. The MAX wattage quoted is a power level that can damage the speaker / amp. You can drive a 50W speaker with a 100W amp - as long as you recognize signs of distortion and play below that level.

At normal listening levels, one drives 1-15W RMS per channel through the speaker depending on type of music and passage playing at that time. Sometimes with loud passages the amp pushes a wee bit more. Even listening to music loud (in the car, not with all doors open and using as PA system) will push about 30-40W max at times.

Both amps and speakers distort when they are reaching the limits of their capability. The sound is quite unbearable at that time, and if one continues to push it after that, the amp or speaker is likely to fail. Try it, you should be able to detect the onset of distortion - the point at which the sound starts distorting.

[Sprucegoose]

Originally Posted by Leistung

Which series is it? Performance, Reference or Ultimate? DLS doesn't come at such a low price usually and the market if flooded with fake amplifiers. Beware.

Sorry for the late reply bro, but it's a DLS Reference RA 40.
And it's class

[sparsh]

Im slightly more old school when it comes to amps. I still prefer the Pioneer 944 and 924 which are very robust and still doing duty in my friends cars. They still rock and can given some of the big boys a run for their money.

[Swiftoholic]

Hi DerAlte, I just got hold of a Pioneer 80PRS through a friend returning from US and in all probability will get it installed today. I have Hertz Hi-Energy at the front and will need a suitably powerful amp to drive the fronts. The speakers are rated at 125 watt RMS. Which would you suggest at 6-7k, 9-10k, 11-12k price points? Will there be noticeable difference between amps from these price bands? I need an amp geared towards pure SQ. Also, I have a basic RF12 Prime basstube which I don't plan to upgrade right now. Can you please tell me if the bass tube will add to the SQ of the set up or be counterproductive?

[Swiftoholic]

Got myself a Focal 4001 amp, and some 8 gauge cables and the install went smoothly at Motor Concept! Needless to say my research on T-BHP helped a lot... The guy had no option but to give me only the right advice! :-) I have realized that all the hype surrounding auto time alignment and auto sound equalization was incredibly true. The Pio 80PRS has blown me and a couple of my friends and cousins away. Totally! Writing at this time after hours of aimless driving on the Gurgaon expressway and the Gurgaon-Faridabad highway with a wide grin that ran from ear to ear... I had tried to imagine the concept of getting the sound stage right, I felt it for the first time with the listening position set to front right. In true Saif style - I mean WOW!

[shiraz]

Hey Swiftoholic, how was your experience with Motor Concept? I need to choose between them and Driven, but the reviews so far are fairly even.

I'm considering a 3-way active install. Have already sourced the 80prs from the US, and now need a good install which ensures that wires are crimped, right thickness wires are used and the full job is done without damaging the vehicle electrically or mechanically.

[Swiftoholic]

Originally Posted by shiraz

Hey Swiftoholic, how was your experience with Motor Concept? I need to choose between them and Driven, but the reviews so far are fairly even.

I'm considering a 3-way active install. Have already sourced the 80prs from the US, and now need a good install which ensures that wires are crimped, right thickness wires are used and the full job is done without damaging the vehicle electrically or mechanically.

My experience was overall quite good, however mine is not an active install! I had generally inquired about their active setup capability, but I wasn't quite convinced whether they will be able to do it well. I think installation is one part they will probably do correctly, with the right set of wiring, connections etc, but an active setup is also a lot about tuning it correctly and that's the part which I am afraid they may not be able to do perfectly! Now, why I feel that way is because when I requested them to do the auto equalization and auto time alignment, they were quite straight forward in telling me about their not being capable of doing it. I had to do it on my own after learning it from Youtube videos.

An active install is a totally different animal, and I feel it will help reaching out to the experts here. I have no experience with Driven, so cannot comment about them. Also, I feel that Driven should have a wider range of drivers and other ICE components on offer from what I have read on T-BHP.

[shiraz]

Swiftoholic, thanks for the insight. I finally bit the bullet and went for the Active install at Motor Concept. Aman was very helpful and pitched in with advice where requested.

Went in for a rainbow beat 4 amplifier to power rainbow DL prof components... The 80prs takes care of the cross overs and slopes. The install was really clean, with Anjay and the boys doing the hard work, and Pramod ji pitching in. I had made a note of a lot of the smaller details, and Pramod ji went above and beyond to ensure quality workmanship:

1. Front door Damping re-checked and improved
2. Power and RCA wires run on opposite sides
3. No cutting, splicing. All terminals crimped, heat shrink wrapped
4. MDF board work (drilling, carpeting, bolting) very clean


By the time the install was done, JB had come over (many thanks JB for taking the time!) . JB immediately found that the 80prs hadn't been switched to network mode and the head unit had to be taken out quickly to flip the switch. Thereafter he did a basic setup, and we agreed to meet again soon to do the TA and equalization.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the install, but detected alternator whine the moment I got going. Aman has promised to look at it the next time I visit. Also using the time in between to get familiar with and play with the setup.

[197Horses]

I am confused on buying a new monoblock class d amplifier for verna fluidic.
The choices are
1.JBL MS-a5001
2.Infinity kappa one 1600w class d

Prices are roughtly the same for both , around 210 USD (i am sourcing it from US as it cheaper there).

Which amplifier will be the best in long term use and give the best output for powering two woofers.
Or is there any other amplifier in this price bucket which you suggest ?