Siena 1.6… Oops iD'd it again

noidaboy · 20th August 2008, 18:49

surf thru the id forum,and check out the videos on youtube,

Edit:may be there were some issue,According to my experience little nic nack's add to the difference in sound,I didnt hear it so i cannot comment on it.You are welcomed to audition the idv3 setup

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low_bass_makker · 20th August 2008, 18:59

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Originally Posted by noidaboy

surf thru the id forum,and check out the videos on Youtube

Would you be kind enough to post it here.

Thanks.

Issues like what ?

noidaboy · 20th August 2008, 19:14

Im no expert,you are the guru sir,you must be knowing.

Btw what kind of problems you had? You got 156db or something when you tested with IDmax as to what i heard.

The probs with idv3 initially was the coils were not properly connected or something,The connectors were not of good quality,the setting from the amp.

Things like port size,box size etc etc do matter also,I think gunbir can help with the details.

Anyways,its something i shared because i felt the change in ID's performance,I really dont think this the thread to talk about stegs being underatted or overrated.lIts ok if you dont like ID products,whats the point of flaming me for it

navin · 20th August 2008, 20:51

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

That is news to me...a 250 rms sub can take 700 rms any links..???.

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Originally Posted by noidaboy

ID products seem highly underrated,My friend is running a IDV3 on kenwood 9401d mono giving around 500w's and the woofer been rated 250w,

power handling is a function of box tuning. A sub in a small sealed box will handle more power than the same sub in a large ported box.

abhibh · 20th August 2008, 21:11

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

But I was having trouble playing the IDMAX which is 1000 rms rated on a 1200 watts STEG amp, maybe the STEG is also underrated.

Maybe it was tuning issues or the box was not right. Another possibility being Italians not complimenting Americans

noidaboy · 20th August 2008, 22:05

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Originally Posted by navin

power handling is a function of box tuning. A sub in a small sealed box will handle more power than the same sub in a large ported box.

Doesn't the sound of the woofer change if the box is not according to the specs?

The box is made as per the spec's mentioned i believe,and its ported

hellspawn · 20th August 2008, 22:32

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Originally Posted by hydrashok

The Image Dynamics CTX65 coaxials were rated the winners by the Car Audio & Electronics magazine in their Fullrange System Roundup. The CTX comps were compared with 9 other makes, including JL Audio (uber expensive at almost $550!!!) & Eclipse.

I saw this in the ID Forums yesterday: Id Is In The Lead!!!!!! - Image Dynamics Forums

Wow !That is good news.ID is really leaping over its competitors.

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Originally Posted by noidaboy

ID products seem highly underrated,My friend is running a IDV3 on kenwood 9401d mono giving around 500w's and the woofer been rated 250w,and its doing well,i have read that i can take upto 700w with out a problem

I wouldnt be really surprised if that were the case.Have experienced it first hand.

jkdas · 20th August 2008, 22:42

Just read about the ID vs others !

CAR AUDIO & ELECTRONICS Magazine's "Fullrange System Roundup" review. They compared the Image Dynamics's entry-level CTX65 (6.5" co-axial speaker) to a host of others (9 to be exact) and the iD speakers came out as the overall winner. It's nice to see that our $169.00 "entry level" CTX co-axial speaker beat the $549.00 JL Audio speaker.

Speakers compared were:

- Image Dynamics CTX65 - $169
- JL Audio C5-650x - $549.95
- Kenwood Excelon KFC-X1710 - $240
- Panasonic CJ-DA1633U - $69.95
- Realm LS6cx - $199
- Eclipse's SP6510 - $169.99
- Exile's XT65 - $300
- Critical Mass SS5 - $199.95
- Orion Cobalt CO650 - $69.99
- PowerBass L-6502 - $89.95

JL @550$ vs ID @ 170 $

low_bass_makker · 21st August 2008, 00:02

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Originally Posted by navin

power handling is a function of box tuning. A sub in a small sealed box will handle more power than the same sub in a large ported box.

Navin Ji can any 250 rms driver take 700 rms (that is three times the power), in any kinda of enclosure.

If yes then what is purpose of the company rating the driver

hellspawn · 21st August 2008, 00:45

I presume the company would have rated the driver when it is run in free air or infinite baffle.That is the only situation where the driver would require the least power.

hellspawn · 21st August 2008, 00:50

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

But I was having trouble playing the IDMAX which is 1000 rms rated on a 1200 watts STEG amp, maybe the STEG is also underrated.

What do you mean by "trouble"?If the steg amp is under rated,then it should have been easily able to run the idmax!!If it was having problems running the idmax,it could be quite possible that the steg amp is overrated and wasnt giving 1200w rms!

low_bass_makker · 21st August 2008, 10:20

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Originally Posted by hellspawn

What do you mean by "trouble"?If the steg amp is under rated,then it should have been easily able to run the idmax!!If it was having problems running the idmax,it could be quite possible that the steg amp is overrated and wasnt giving 1200w rms!

LOL, Do not say it anyplace else or everybody will think you are joking, LOL

If you still cannot figure out what I am saying come down to FBD I will show you every thing practically.

speedzak · 21st August 2008, 10:30

What is this overrating and underrating stuff going on here? Are we discussing Baleno and Palio again? Or butter chicken vs omelette?

No? But frankly speaking, why should we always have an LBM product criticised? He knows his audio too good and it's better we don't take Panga with him. What say?

yayaati · 21st August 2008, 10:31

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Originally Posted by jkdas

- Image Dynamics CTX65 - $169
- JL Audio C5-650x - $549.95
- Kenwood Excelon KFC-X1710 - $240
- Panasonic CJ-DA1633U - $69.95
- Realm LS6cx - $199
- Eclipse's SP6510 - $169.99
- Exile's XT65 - $300
- Critical Mass SS5 - $199.95
- Orion Cobalt CO650 - $69.99
- PowerBass L-6502 - $89.95

I find this reviewer very lame, Why were speakers from good brand which are good at it are not added here like Hertz, Rainbow, DLS, Illusion, Morel, Focal, RF, CDT, etc ???

Bass&Trouble · 21st August 2008, 11:03

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Originally Posted by speedzak

But frankly speaking, why should we always have an LBM product criticised? He knows his audio too good and it's better we don't take Panga with him. What say?

I second that. No point taking panga with him or anyone else. This forum is a good resource and we should assume that whoever has bought or prefers a particular product, has done sufficient research in their respective capacities.

Btw, what is "an LBM product"? One that I know of is a sweet little toddler.

20th August 2008, 18:49	#106
noidaboy BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Noida Posts: 1,003 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	surf thru the id forum,and check out the videos on youtube, Edit:may be there were some issue,According to my experience little nic nack's add to the difference in sound,I didnt hear it so i cannot comment on it.You are welcomed to audition the idv3 setup , Last edited by noidaboy : 20th August 2008 at 19:01.
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20th August 2008, 19:14	#108
noidaboy BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Noida Posts: 1,003 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	Im no expert,you are the guru sir,you must be knowing. Btw what kind of problems you had? You got 156db or something when you tested with IDmax as to what i heard. The probs with idv3 initially was the coils were not properly connected or something,The connectors were not of good quality,the setting from the amp. Things like port size,box size etc etc do matter also,I think gunbir can help with the details. Anyways,its something i shared because i felt the change in ID's performance,I really dont think this the thread to talk about stegs being underatted or overrated.lIts ok if you dont like ID products,whats the point of flaming me for it Last edited by noidaboy : 20th August 2008 at 19:23.
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20th August 2008, 22:42	#113
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,496 Times View My Garage	Just read about the ID vs others ! CAR AUDIO & ELECTRONICS Magazine's "Fullrange System Roundup" review. They compared the Image Dynamics's entry-level CTX65 (6.5" co-axial speaker) to a host of others (9 to be exact) and the iD speakers came out as the overall winner. It's nice to see that our $169.00 "entry level" CTX co-axial speaker beat the $549.00 JL Audio speaker. Speakers compared were: - Image Dynamics CTX65 - $169 - JL Audio C5-650x - $549.95 - Kenwood Excelon KFC-X1710 - $240 - Panasonic CJ-DA1633U - $69.95 - Realm LS6cx - $199 - Eclipse's SP6510 - $169.99 - Exile's XT65 - $300 - Critical Mass SS5 - $199.95 - Orion Cobalt CO650 - $69.99 - PowerBass L-6502 - $89.95 JL @550$ vs ID @ 170 $
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21st August 2008, 00:45	#115
hellspawn Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: noida Posts: 1,686 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	I presume the company would have rated the driver when it is run in free air or infinite baffle.That is the only situation where the driver would require the least power.
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21st August 2008, 10:30	#118
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,346 Thanked: 28 Times	What is this overrating and underrating stuff going on here? Are we discussing Baleno and Palio again? Or butter chicken vs omelette? No? But frankly speaking, why should we always have an LBM product criticised? He knows his audio too good and it's better we don't take Panga with him. What say?
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