[baarish84]

Background

I am planning to upgrade audio of my Hyryder Strong Hybrid V variant . Variant is important here , as many of you know , Strong Hybrid Hyryder already has compromised boot . Hence I am looking for underseat installation of DSP/Amplifier and underseat subwoofer.

I am not expert, and this will be my first audio upgrade. Hence require views on this setup.

My requirement - Budget audio system , with moderate specifications. I am looking for a soft well rounded audio with tight low range base. I am not chasing extreme vocal clarity or glass shaterring base. I do not play music really loud.

My shortlist (All Alpine) :

DSP cum Amplifier : Alpine PXE-R600 @ INR 38,000/-

Frequency response

20Hz - 20KHz

Inputs

6 high-level inputs
2-channel RCA audio
AptX High-definition Bluetooth signal input

Outputs

8 x 25W (Rated power)
8 x 50W (Max power)

Sound & Tuning

2.0 multichannel surround
31 Bands parametric EQ
31 Bands graphic EQ
Hi-pass / Low-pass / Bandpass Crossover
Time delay up to 20 ms per channel
8-channel time correction

Dimension

210 x 189 x 45.5 mm (will be placed under front passenger seat)


Underseat Subwoofer : Alpine PWE-S800 @ INR 19,500/-

Size : 8"
Max Power Output : 240W
Dimensions : 344mm x 245mm x 79mm lxbxh (will be placed under driver seat)
Frequency Response : 25Hz - 152Hz


Front Component Speakers Pair : Alpine R2-S65C @ INR 21,990/-

Speaker Size : 6.5"
Max Power Output : 300W
Nominal Power Output RMS : 100W RMS
Frequency Response : 65Hz-40kHz
Impedance : 4 Ohm
Sensitivity : 88dB SPL (1W @ 1m)
Cone Material : Glass-Fiber Reinforced Cone
Tweeter : 4.3 cm with up to 40kHz frequency response


Rear Component Speakers Pair : Alpine S2-S65 @ INR 9,375/-

Speaker Size : 6.5"
Max Power Output : 240W
Nominal Power Output RMS : 80W RMS
Frequency Response : 55Hz-40kHz
Impedance : 4 Ohm
Sensitivity : 88dB SPL
Cone Material : Lightweight Glass-Fiber Reinforced Cone
Co-axial Tweeter : 2.5 cm Extended-Range Soft Dome


Sound Insulation @ INR 20,000/-
All four Door and Boot Damping with 2 layers.


Queries

1. Will this setup work for my requirement (stated above) or do I have to add any additional component?

2. I am expecting some discount on the prices quoted above, but not much. Do I have any other reliable product alternative, in the same price bracket?

3. Should I also go for floor damping? I am worried about damaging wiring for ventilated seats, which is laid on the flooring. Also, Car will be driven in a city with humid weather (Mumbai) - so will the floor damping lead to accelerated rusting?

[flipflop]

1. If it’s a car that is mostly driven by you, then I would suggest to discard the rear components and have a three way front stage
2. There are quite a lot of options. Do try and get a demo and decide what type of sound you like
3. Yes get the damping only on the important places like door and boot to avoid rattling and also to add a good ambient silence.

Good luck with your journey

[baarish84]

Just wanted to provide update on the audio upgrade . I ended up installing Alpine components S-S65C, Alpine co-axials S-S65, Alpine DSP PXE R500, Alpine Amplifier S-A32F and Sony under-seat subwoofer XS-AW8.

Due to compromised boot of Strong Hybrid Hyryder, sub-woofer was installed under driver's seat and DSP/AMP combo was installed under -co-passenger seat.

[Tommie]

Originally Posted by baarish84

Just wanted to provide update on the audio upgrade . I ended up installing Sony under-seat subwoofer XS-AW8. .

I wanted to understand why you chose Sony instead of Alpine PWE-S800. Can you help me with the reasons?

[baarish84]

Originally Posted by Tommie

I wanted to understand why you chose Sony instead of Alpine PWE-S800. Can you help me with the reasons?

Alpine PWE S800 was priced significantly costlier at the installer shop compared to Sony XS-AW8, while performance seemed at-par. While I was already leaning towards Sony, I got almost 40% discount on Sony in 2023 big billion day sale .

Sony has significantly lower RMS (75W) compared to Alpine (120W), but it is serving the purpose. I generally keep the bass level at 25% of the total capacity of subwoofer via remote controller knob, can't turn it up further as it gets really thumping.

[Proud BRV Owner]

Hello Guys,

I am not happy at all with the OEM speakers fitted on my Urban Cruiser Hyryder S AT (Neodrive). I find them so much inferior to my previous OEM beuties on Honda BR-V S MT that I have completely given up on listening to music in my car. I am also using Hypersonic's Picasou (8Gb / 128Gb) for streaming YouTube and other apps - chose this option (although it costed me more than a decent head unit - bought it for 18,500/- couriered from Auto Music Emprorium, Karolbaugh, Delhi) because I wanted to retain the OEM head unit.

What would be your suggestions for an upgrade for speakers? Would be streaming through apple music (premium) and Youtube videos. My liking is towards clear neutral sound with lively filling sound stage - if any bias, it would be towards clear mids with tight clear punchy bass without out of the world low end rumble, so do not want to invest in a sub-woofer. If the upgrade is possible without a DSP, even better! Do not want to spend too much on the upgrade or give up storage space in the boot.

Looking forward to an audio nirvana with your inputs!

Paritosh

[Proud BRV Owner]

Hi,

Just wanted to know whether I can opt for only front and rear speakers without the sub and DSP or not. Can the built-in Amp work fine with these speakers?

[baarish84]

Originally Posted by Proud BRV Owner

Hi,

Just wanted to know whether I can opt for only front and rear speakers without the sub and DSP or not. Can the built-in Amp work fine with these speakers?

Hi , built-in HU will not be able to drive after market speakers with decent RMS. Do consider investing in decent amplifier.

[baarish84]

Originally Posted by Proud BRV Owner

Hello Guys,

I am also using Hypersonic's Picasou (8Gb / 128Gb)

Hi , I understand Picasou is interface which will connect to Stock HU to provide android apps overlay such as Youtube/ streaming apps - but it will still leverage original speaker system connected to HU.

You have already paid significant amount on this overlay device, Was it to maintain stock HU due to all Hybrid related graphics? If that was not the case, I would have recommended dedicated Android HU (such as Woodman) , with dedicated ports for speakers, amplifier, sub-woofer etc. Stock HU will not be able to fuel after-market speakers.

Now for current set up, way to improve sound output is to add base frequencies and mid-frequencies. I understand a coupler to stock HU will negate any need to cut wires at the back. I strongly suggest you to add under-seat sub-woofer with built-in Amplifier. They are good to run up to 50 RMS speaker sets (front 2 way+ co-axials at back).

Suggest you go for Alpine SPJ-161 series, as they sound clean even with low RMS. But you will require a sub-woofer for lower frequencies, as these Alpines will distort when handling low frequencies.

[frankmehta]

The choice of equipment seems top notch yet confused, owing to the underseat subwoofer and the Android source. You are going to be underwhelmed for sure.

The bottleneck will be the source. Android units have ZERO focus on sound quality and come with the noisiest sound transfers built into the SOC. Please avoid an android unit. A Hyryder can easily fit a nice dual din Sony/Pioneer unit with wireless carplay and android auto.

[OpenRoads]

Originally Posted by frankmehta

A Hyryder can easily fit a nice dual din Sony/Pioneer unit with wireless carplay and android auto.

I am looking at a similar setup but have few questions in mind.

1. What is wrong with the OEM head unit if we are already mapping an amplifier and DSP with it? Doesn't it bridges the gaps/shortcomings of a low power output?
2. With third party units what happens to the car information like fuel consumption logs, TPMS or any other information related to car and not android or carplay.

[OpenRoads]

Originally Posted by baarish84

I ended up installing Alpine components S-S65C, Alpine co-axials S-S65, Alpine DSP PXE R500, Alpine Amplifier S-A32F and Sony under-seat subwoofer XS-AW8.

Hi, Can you please confirm the mounting depth of the stock speakers and if any mounting adapters were used?

[baarish84]

Originally Posted by OpenRoads

I am looking at a similar setup but have few questions in mind.
2. With third party units what happens to the car information like fuel consumption logs, TPMS or any other information related to car and not android or carplay.

Only reason I retained original HU, as installation of aftermarket HU means losing out on info graphics of hybrid power flow, TPMS etc. I recall original HU also has menu options for Heads-Up display, fuel logs etc. Hence I did not go for Sony / Pioneer / Woodman HU .

These aftermarket HU make absolute sense if one has opted lower petrol-only variant, with no TPMS, HUD, hybrid menu.

[baarish84]

Originally Posted by OpenRoads

Hi, Can you please confirm the mounting depth of the stock speakers and if any mounting adapters were used?

Hi , I do not have dimensions for Stock Speakers. Depth was little smaller than Alpine. However, Alpines fit perfectly in the available space.

For Alpines, diameter 165 mm and depth 77 mm . Mounting brackets were part of the package box.

[OpenRoads]

Originally Posted by baarish84

These aftermarket HU make absolute sense if one has opted lower petrol-only variant, with no TPMS, HUD, hybrid menu.

My thoughts exactly. I will too retain the HU and upgrade the speakers and add a Alpine DSP. By any chance do you happen to know the per channel RMS output of the HU?