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Originally Posted by DerAlte Look at the installation pics in the Sound Off and Show Off thread. In most of them, you will find a few pics with a clear / translucent plastic sheet on the door inside, stuck with a black adhesive. This is supposed to protect the inside of the door pad and speaker from water / vapor - if the speaker is mounted on the door pad. This would have been there in your Swift too.
When installing sound damping, this is usually taken off and replaced with sound damping sheet (see pics of damping installation), which then acts as the barrier.
The front of the speaker is normally protected by the door pad grill which comes with the car. If you use the speaker OE grill, you have to take precautions when giving the car for service (tape a plastic sheet over it).
If you don't feel safe even with the car OE grill, stretch and stick a layer of dupatta cloth behind it.
If you still don't feel safe even with the plastic or butyl sheet behind the speaker, make a shallow cone/bowl of appropriate size with some closed-cell foam and stick it over the rear of the speaker. |
now take a closer look at this picture!, you will find the plastic sheet is not beneath the speaker!
and more over when the glass is completely down there is hardly 1/2 inch gap between the speaker's magnet and the glass! its for this reason that i used two spacer rings and mounted the speaker from outside the door pad! giving it more space (like around 3 to 3.5 inches) that will avoid the water spills to a greater extent!
well if you try to cover the speaker from the other side with plastic or closed cell foam there will hardly be any space left for the air to move around which drastically affects the clarity!
well in some components there is facility, you can actually remover the plastic thing that is right at the middle of the cone and mount the tweeter on the same speaker, just like its fixed on a coaxial. this is actually more prone to damage than the one that that have the cone sealed on the front side! in these kind of speakers the risk of damaging is more compared to the ones with sealed cones!
you see these days all the components come with a cone made of fiber or plastic that is spill resistant on the front side atleast!.
the rear side/ magnet's side is still prone to damage due to liquids! as the brown paper inside is usually made of non water proof materials like the cone's fiber/plastic! and this is the one that make the speakers go kaput! most of the times!
and unfortunately we have to place this part in the door where it is prone to damage when installed badly! and in most cases cant be covered!
this is the reason i hate to install the speakers in the door!
now check out the company OE speakers they came with way better protection! and that is what exactly i want to provide for the components i put in! its the final pic!
those are the components from the blaupunkt that were very old by the time i bought them, all though bought it first hand, but it went kaput and i gave it to max motors minister road for repair and the end result is seen in the pics above, they had the coil made locally and thats the reason for me saying the sealed cones are better protected than the ones that are not(remember the coaxial mounting point i explained above). and this made me understand that the brown paper that is beneath the cone paper is even more prone as this is not made of water resistant materials in all speakers and is placed in the pads with out protection! and hence i made these decisions for the further installs.
and even in my viva i checked for water leaks and the new ones survived one rainy season so i am not expecting any problems here on in viva,
but after looking at the plastic quality, finish and the way the places were made in swift it actually made me over cautious and hence all these conclusions and this way of install and the stubbornness to not install the speakers in the pads as far as possible!
and the crutchfield site navinji, that you provided, does help but then where do i get these here in India? more over they will foul with the mid range and will boost the bass that is already taken care off by the sub!
so its like this if one want to really spend for the components then the 3-3.5 inch gap between the glass and the speaker will keep the speaker running for a long time! and the covers from the site navinji suggested is also good protection but will give more bass that will dominate the mid ranges! so i decided the best way was to install them in the way i did with the max protection while not interrupting the mid ranges!
do correct me for mistakes or suggest better things, is there a way where in i can get some thing like navinji suggested and still have the vocals just right for the A.R.RAHMAN/hariharan songs that i usually die for!