Sub woofers in the spare wheel well.

Lifewater · 13th July 2007, 07:17

Hi gunbir, the damping meterial that you have used in the sub-woofer tray and in the spare wheel well is it wollen felt? by the looks of it we use something similar looking in our tea factory machines. Also what shold one use to damp the vibrations of the tailgate ?? I looked around for dynamat or some similat items in Assam and the clowns asked me DYNAMAT ??? !!! no saar we have coirmat or you can use kurlomat very good quality saar !!! ( The cartoon must have thought i was looking for a foor-mat.) Please help

Lifewater · 13th July 2007, 07:43

Thanks for the infor GUNBIR. I was wondering if the damping meterial used by you wollen felt ?? By the looks of it we use something similar in tea factories. Also can anybody help me to choose a sub within 4.5K and with dynamat , fonomat etc. The clowns here in assam are not aware of dynamat -- they only know of one mat that is KURLOMAT -- footmat (pao pooch) !!!

gunbir · 13th July 2007, 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by atease

I plan to include an amp and sub woofers.

You have a good setup. What is your budget for the amp and sub(s)

gunbir · 13th July 2007, 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lifewater

I was wondering if the damping meterial used by you wollen felt ??

Yes its similar to felt. Its called "Namda" here in Hindi. Best used in places where you wont get any water or moisture.

hydrashok · 13th July 2007, 10:41

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Originally Posted by atease

HU Alpine 9833

I'm jealous!

And you seem to be building a good system

atease · 13th July 2007, 13:24

I do not mind spending another 30k towards amp and sub(s), hope this would suffice, if need be can spend some more. I prefer smaller subs as they provide flexibility to place them anywhere, What are your thoughts on Morel sub(s).

gunbir · 13th July 2007, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by atease

I do not mind spending another 30k towards amp and sub(s), hope this would suffice, if need be can spend some more. I prefer smaller subs as they provide flexibility to place them anywhere, What are your thoughts on Morel sub(s).

Morel Subs are light and fast. But don't have a lot of output. Get these if you DON'T listen to much of Hip Hop etc. They are nice SQ subs. But may fall a bit short in a large cabin like the Innova's.

Thats a good budget. You can easily buy a couple of nice 10"s in that budget, along with a nice mono amp.

atease · 13th July 2007, 23:06

Hi Gunbir,
thanks for the info, I am not much of a hip hop fan, I listen mostly to all kinds of Rock. I dont like a thumping loud bass sound where all the other finer musical details are lost. I understand the fact that Innova has a large cabin that may force me to put the subs in the boot area and paly them at vey high volume. Looking for "Innova-tive" solution for putting subs closure to listening/saeting area. Do not mind putting higher numbers of smaller subs.

ScarySkulls · 13th July 2007, 23:37

Did you see Gunbir's Innova install thread where they put the Subs under the seats?

atease · 14th July 2007, 00:01

What a coincidence, just saw the thread, Gunbir, you have done a great Job.

ScarySkulls · 16th July 2007, 19:20

Ah cool.
so what did you decide?

atease · 17th July 2007, 00:08

I would want to go for 8" subs like how Gunbir installed in the Innova, I waiting for Gunbir to respond to my query. lets hope he replies.

Magma · 31st May 2008, 14:30

Hello
could have please have suggestions for a 10inch sub (not too expensive though) that i could use as an SWWS .
Could the GT4 - 10 be used here ( though its not ideally an IB sub?)-Sambhai?
please sugest alternatives

i have looked at sealed boxs(actaully made dummy cardboard box enclosures) and bass tubes but due to boot space constraints i cannot use either.
It seems i might have to try the SWWS approach.
Guys please help

Another question
In gunbir's install it seems he has screwed the sub frame from the inner(under) side of the baffle rather than from the top.(i.e the way we see noramlly in a sealed box or parcel shelf IB install)
refer picture no 10 and 11 in the first page of this thread
am i seeing this correctly.
Why was this done . is it to protect the sub?

Magma · 1st June 2008, 13:27

Will this do
TS-W257F Pioneer Subwoofer - In Car*Entertainment

or
a GT 4 - 10

DerAlte · 1st June 2008, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magma

could have please have suggestions for a 10inch sub (not too expensive though) that i could use as an SWWS . ...

There are not too many of those around - you need to check with dealers what is available before deciding. Doesn't have to be a Free Air sub, at a pinch any sub will do as long as you are not driving it to its electrical / mechanical limits.

Critical thing here is the space available above the spare wheel - where the rear of the sub is going to be. Check the mounting drawings / dimensions before you buy. Safest is the Illusion slim sub, but not sure if it comes in 10" - check with @b&t.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magma

i have looked at sealed boxs(actaully made dummy cardboard box enclosures) and bass tubes but due to boot space constraints i cannot use either.

Shabash, @magma, you are a very good DIY person.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magma

In gunbir's install it seems he has screwed the sub frame from the inner(under) side of the baffle rather than from the top. ... Why was this done . is it to protect the sub?

This way the surround and cone have a lot of space above (IIRC, Gunbir used 1" MDF) to move without touching anything, and also you get a flat floor in the boot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magma

Will this do
TS-W257F Pioneer Subwoofer - In Car*Entertainment
or a GT 4 - 10

No reason why not. The Pio is a free air sub (the F suffix). The JBL sub seems to be an all rounder - there are sealed, ported, tube and even IB installs of this one.

But, first check the space that you have and cross-check with the speaker drawing. BTW, which car were you trying to put this in?

13th July 2007, 07:17	#61
Lifewater BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dibrugarh Posts: 68 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi gunbir, the damping meterial that you have used in the sub-woofer tray and in the spare wheel well is it wollen felt? by the looks of it we use something similar looking in our tea factory machines. Also what shold one use to damp the vibrations of the tailgate ?? I looked around for dynamat or some similat items in Assam and the clowns asked me DYNAMAT ??? !!! no saar we have coirmat or you can use kurlomat very good quality saar !!! ( The cartoon must have thought i was looking for a foor-mat.) Please help
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13th July 2007, 07:43	#62
Lifewater BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dibrugarh Posts: 68 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks for the infor GUNBIR. I was wondering if the damping meterial used by you wollen felt ?? By the looks of it we use something similar in tea factories. Also can anybody help me to choose a sub within 4.5K and with dynamat , fonomat etc. The clowns here in assam are not aware of dynamat -- they only know of one mat that is KURLOMAT -- footmat (pao pooch) !!!
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13th July 2007, 13:24	#66
atease Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 12 Thanked: 0 Times	I do not mind spending another 30k towards amp and sub(s), hope this would suffice, if need be can spend some more. I prefer smaller subs as they provide flexibility to place them anywhere, What are your thoughts on Morel sub(s).
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13th July 2007, 23:06	#68
atease Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 12 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi Gunbir, thanks for the info, I am not much of a hip hop fan, I listen mostly to all kinds of Rock. I dont like a thumping loud bass sound where all the other finer musical details are lost. I understand the fact that Innova has a large cabin that may force me to put the subs in the boot area and paly them at vey high volume. Looking for "Innova-tive" solution for putting subs closure to listening/saeting area. Do not mind putting higher numbers of smaller subs.
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13th July 2007, 23:37	#69
ScarySkulls BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Halifax, N.S. Posts: 623 Thanked: 36 Times	Did you see Gunbir's Innova install thread where they put the Subs under the seats?
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14th July 2007, 00:01	#70
atease Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 12 Thanked: 0 Times	What a coincidence, just saw the thread, Gunbir, you have done a great Job.
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16th July 2007, 19:20	#71
ScarySkulls BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Halifax, N.S. Posts: 623 Thanked: 36 Times	Ah cool. so what did you decide?
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17th July 2007, 00:08	#72
atease Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 12 Thanked: 0 Times	I would want to go for 8" subs like how Gunbir installed in the Innova, I waiting for Gunbir to respond to my query. lets hope he replies.
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31st May 2008, 14:30	#73
Magma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 361 Thanked: 2 Times	Hello could have please have suggestions for a 10inch sub (not too expensive though) that i could use as an SWWS . Could the GT4 - 10 be used here ( though its not ideally an IB sub?)-Sambhai? please sugest alternatives i have looked at sealed boxs(actaully made dummy cardboard box enclosures) and bass tubes but due to boot space constraints i cannot use either. It seems i might have to try the SWWS approach. Guys please help Another question In gunbir's install it seems he has screwed the sub frame from the inner(under) side of the baffle rather than from the top.(i.e the way we see noramlly in a sealed box or parcel shelf IB install) refer picture no 10 and 11 in the first page of this thread am i seeing this correctly. Why was this done . is it to protect the sub?
	() Thanks

1st June 2008, 13:27	#74
Magma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 361 Thanked: 2 Times	Will this do TS-W257F Pioneer Subwoofer - In Car*Entertainment or a GT 4 - 10
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