The Damping Material and Sound Deadener Thread

donarun · 11th October 2010, 18:33

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Originally Posted by Gt500

@MutantX
The prices I got : Rs.2200/- for a pack of six sheets ,direct from the delhi sales office!
You have to bargain harder my friend.
The sheets are worth the money @ 2200 but not at the price quoted to you , that's just obscene man.
Which car are you gonna damp?

Guys, Dynamat bulk pack is costing me close to 7k (if bought from states) for 36sq.ft. If either Wurth / Noise kill would perform to 80% of dynamat's performance level then I would prefer to go in for the cheaper option. How good is Wurth & Noise kill's performance ?

diesel_maniac · 11th October 2010, 23:27

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Originally Posted by MutantX

guys, I just called up the wuerth dealer in chennai (Rein Hold Wurth India
). He has quoted me 600 per sheet. Below are the dimensions:

550mm x 250 mm with 2 mm thickness.

The installation is free. The total would come upto 3000 rs for the 4 doors and the boot. Any pointers here? is wuerth really worth the money?

@Mutant: I agree with GT500, the local guy is asking for a quite a high price for the sheets. Ask him come down on the price and get them installed professionally. by the way which car are you thinking of Damping?

Samridh · 12th October 2010, 12:46

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Originally Posted by panky12345

1. I'm talking about the damping material only. I've not heard any of their subs/speakers nor I'm aware of their presence in ICE.

2. Yes, as far as damping material is concerend, its my personal observation. They are close to Dead - X, X-treme Dead (mils I dont remember) quality and money wise. Do they have a website?

Panky this is their website - prism

Quite a sorry one in fact.

Albeit I note that the popularity of their damping stuff, components and/or sub-woofers is continually rising in the south-east especially Bangkok. Will love to hear from others as well.

lilMonSter · 25th October 2010, 12:34

Has anybody tried using Rockford Fosgate Damping material. I'm gettng a bulk pack of it and wanted to know how it would compare to the other tried and tested Damping materials. Really really need to Damp my K10 Before it starts to rattle or i start dropping pieces of car on the road.

Samridh · 28th October 2010, 11:42

Hi lilMonSter, I remember seeing a Palio done up with RF some time back. Initially I thought it was not genuine as I had never heard of them (as in RF) producing RF. But then the guy showed me an unused portion of the Damping sheet. I thought it was absolutely on the other end of the spectrum when compared to a "heavy" product like Wurth since it was very light. I guess it then had a higher Butyl content (which of course I liked). Also I beleive its being light had no visible negative impact on the 'extent of damping'. In short it was a nice product. But from what I remember RF was fairly expensive since two doors and the boot costed the guy some 5000 odd.

Just a small question why "RF"?

lilMonSter · 29th October 2010, 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samridh

Hi lilMonSter, I remember seeing a Palio done up with RF some time back. Initially I thought it was not genuine as I had never heard of them (as in RF) producing RF. But then the guy showed me an unused portion of the Damping sheet. I thought it was absolutely on the other end of the spectrum when compared to a "heavy" product like Wurth since it was very light. I guess it then had a higher Butyl content (which of course I liked). Also I beleive its being light had no visible negative impact on the 'extent of damping'. In short it was a nice product. But from what I remember RF was fairly expensive since two doors and the boot costed the guy some 5000 odd.

Just a small question why "RF"?

Was getting a deal on it so thats why i wanted to know. who would you recommend to get my car damped from and what material to use.dont have any budget as such, just need a lot of dampening..

i dont my car to shake itself to pieces.

Samridh · 29th October 2010, 15:28

I assume that you have already gotten a high fidelity installed. Congratulations. "A lot" is a very relative expression. If you think your installer has done a good job, I reccomend you go to him since the probability of being ripped is (generally) inversely proportional to the probability of re-occurence of the customer. Just ensure that a liberal use of rollers is made and there are no loose or hanging ends as they will allow the adhesive to dry without gelling. It will undoubtedly lead to scrapped ends and loose deadning. Best of luck.

abhipuru16 · 12th November 2010, 21:29

Guys, I have heard of Natural Rubber, Butyl Rubber and Neoprene Rubber as alternate materials for damping.

1. Which one of these would you consider best?

2. I once came around a shop selling "rubber sheets", the guy there didn't know what kind of rubber it was. Should I go ahead with it?

3. Will any kind of "rubber" act as a damping material?

By the way, the rear part of the IFB dishwasher in our kitchen has a rubber sheet stuck to it that covers it's metallic part, is this damping? And yes, it is super silent while at work!

DerAlte · 13th November 2010, 09:16

1. Butyl rubber. Natural rubber degrades very fast. Neoprene and natural rubber are too elastic to be really effective
2. No, don't. Since you are really detail oriented, it won't be VFM for you
3. Only rubber, which is very elastic, is not effective. Damping sheets are a mix of rubber and some amount of bitumen (tar, yaar!)

Yes, that is some form of damping so that the rear sheet, which is a large uninterrupted area, does not vibrate and make a droning noise.

Xehaust · 13th November 2010, 11:35

Could anyone recommend a place to get damping done in south mumbai?
And if possible, the cost of getting it done in a Verna?

Akshay1234 · 13th November 2010, 11:41

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Originally Posted by Xehaust

Could anyone recommend a place to get damping done in south mumbai?
And if possible, the cost of getting it done in a Verna?

Ajay aka Bass&Trouble on the forum. Speak to him, he operates out of Tardeo.

Xehaust · 13th November 2010, 12:06

Alright, thanks Akshay. Youve gotten the Accord damped as well?

predatorwheelz · 15th November 2010, 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xehaust

Could anyone recommend a place to get damping done in south mumbai?
And if possible, the cost of getting it done in a Verna?

Do share the cost and material used when yours gets damped. Pics as well. My Verna will need damping very soon, you see!

Xehaust · 16th November 2010, 20:02

Sure, but at the moment i have fallen ill, so the damping is put on hold, rest assured, will share the details once done.

abhipuru16 · 17th November 2010, 17:14

What function does the aluminum sheet above the damping sheet perform?

25th October 2010, 12:34	#769
lilMonSter BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New delhi Posts: 190 Thanked: 33 Times	Has anybody tried using Rockford Fosgate Damping material. I'm gettng a bulk pack of it and wanted to know how it would compare to the other tried and tested Damping materials. Really really need to Damp my K10 Before it starts to rattle or i start dropping pieces of car on the road.
	() Thanks

28th October 2010, 11:42	#770
Samridh BHPian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 86 Thanked: 529 Times	Hi lilMonSter, I remember seeing a Palio done up with RF some time back. Initially I thought it was not genuine as I had never heard of them (as in RF) producing RF. But then the guy showed me an unused portion of the Damping sheet. I thought it was absolutely on the other end of the spectrum when compared to a "heavy" product like Wurth since it was very light. I guess it then had a higher Butyl content (which of course I liked). Also I beleive its being light had no visible negative impact on the 'extent of damping'. In short it was a nice product. But from what I remember RF was fairly expensive since two doors and the boot costed the guy some 5000 odd. Just a small question why "RF"?
	() Thanks

29th October 2010, 15:28	#772
Samridh BHPian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 86 Thanked: 529 Times	I assume that you have already gotten a high fidelity installed. Congratulations. "A lot" is a very relative expression. If you think your installer has done a good job, I reccomend you go to him since the probability of being ripped is (generally) inversely proportional to the probability of re-occurence of the customer. Just ensure that a liberal use of rollers is made and there are no loose or hanging ends as they will allow the adhesive to dry without gelling. It will undoubtedly lead to scrapped ends and loose deadning. Best of luck.
	() Thanks

12th November 2010, 21:29	#773
abhipuru16 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Faridabad Posts: 719 Thanked: 40 Times	Guys, I have heard of Natural Rubber, Butyl Rubber and Neoprene Rubber as alternate materials for damping. 1. Which one of these would you consider best? 2. I once came around a shop selling "rubber sheets", the guy there didn't know what kind of rubber it was. Should I go ahead with it? 3. Will any kind of "rubber" act as a damping material? By the way, the rear part of the IFB dishwasher in our kitchen has a rubber sheet stuck to it that covers it's metallic part, is this damping? And yes, it is super silent while at work!
	() Thanks

13th November 2010, 09:16	#774
DerAlte Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8,069 Thanked: 2,919 Times	1. Butyl rubber. Natural rubber degrades very fast. Neoprene and natural rubber are too elastic to be really effective 2. No, don't. Since you are really detail oriented, it won't be VFM for you 3. Only rubber, which is very elastic, is not effective. Damping sheets are a mix of rubber and some amount of bitumen (tar, yaar!) Yes, that is some form of damping so that the rear sheet, which is a large uninterrupted area, does not vibrate and make a droning noise.
	() Thanks

13th November 2010, 11:35	#775
Xehaust BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 846 Thanked: 81 Times View My Garage	Could anyone recommend a place to get damping done in south mumbai? And if possible, the cost of getting it done in a Verna?
	() Thanks

13th November 2010, 12:06	#777
Xehaust BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 846 Thanked: 81 Times View My Garage	Alright, thanks Akshay. Youve gotten the Accord damped as well?
	() Thanks

16th November 2010, 20:02	#779
Xehaust BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 846 Thanked: 81 Times View My Garage	Sure, but at the moment i have fallen ill, so the damping is put on hold, rest assured, will share the details once done.
	() Thanks

17th November 2010, 17:14	#780
abhipuru16 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Faridabad Posts: 719 Thanked: 40 Times	What function does the aluminum sheet above the damping sheet perform?
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