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Old 25th May 2016, 23:40   #346
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Re: Mitsubishi Pajero 2.8

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the SA came up with a huge list of To-Dos
To put it mildly, this is pure bullshit man. Pajero's are not build to milk the owner at 100K kilomters, but dealer sure would like. I have responded to each item bleow:

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1) Timing Chain Kit - 20,000
Timing belts have replacement periods. Timing chains are generally built for the life of the engine, except due to any unusual wear and tear so not required.
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2) Fuel Injector Overhaul - 12,000
Not required, unless you see any excess smoke or reduction in engine performance.
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3) Rear Brake Disc - 25,000
4) Front Brake Disc - 19,000
5) Rear Brake Pads - 7,500
6) Front Brake Pads - 6,500
Get it checked at a good independent garage. They will just remove the disks/tyres and see the pad wear. Even if you have to do it, you can buy OE quality spares much cheaper. Search the forum in the Pajero/Pajero Sport Threads.
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7) Water Pump - 22,000
Definitely not required for Pajero at 100K kilometers.
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8) Rear Suspension - 18,000
Rear suspension consists of coils and dampers. There is no way a Pajero driven predominantly on urban road will require a new rear suspension. Check to see if there is any oil leak from the dampers. If not, just forget it.

Long story short, the Mitsubishi dealers hardly sell any vehicle. They have only one model left to sell and a huge rent to pay for the premises. Looks like they want you to pay this months rent. Tell them very politely to bugger off and do a regular oil service.
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Old 5th April 2018, 10:08   #347
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Hello Ricky Sir,

Long time no updates. Did you eventually sell off the 2008 Pajero or managed to retain it?
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I sold it many years ago !
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Old 11th April 2018, 23:40   #349
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Re: Mitsubishi Pajero 2.8

I own a 2009 model Pajero SFX and the Turbo seems to have played up. I visited SVR Motors and they quoted 2.3lakhs for a replacement that is procured against order.

I checked online and there are turbochargers available for as low as 26k. I am not sure if they are compatible or if I can trust these vendors with my money.

Folks at SVR Motors refused to share the Part number. Can somebody please help me with the part number for the Turbocharger? OR direct me to somebody who can supply and install this part?
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I own a 2009 model Pajero SFX and the Turbo seems to have played up. I visited SVR Motors and they quoted 2.3lakhs for a replacement that is procured against order.

I checked online and there are turbochargers available for as low as 26k. I am not sure if they are compatible or if I can trust these vendors with my money.

Folks at SVR Motors refused to share the Part number. Can somebody please help me with the part number for the Turbocharger? OR direct me to somebody who can supply and install this part?
There are three different part numbers for the Pajero.

The part numbers are ME201635, ME202012 and ME202246.

My guess is you won't need the full assembly but the turbo cartridge should be enough. I have no idea where you can get it from except from amayama.com, it will cost a fortune to import it directly from Japan though.

You should try sourcing a old turbo assembly from some scrap dealer or consult some FNG. Look at the Team Bhp directory for good FNG in Bangalore.

How much has your Pajero done. How frequently have you been changing the engine oil. These two questions can help discover what caused the failure.
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Re: Mitsubishi Pajero 2.8

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I own a 2009 model Pajero SFX and the Turbo seems to have played up. I visited SVR Motors and they quoted 2.3lakhs for a replacement that is procured against order.

I checked online and there are turbochargers available for as low as 26k. I am not sure if they are compatible or if I can trust these vendors with my money.

Folks at SVR Motors refused to share the Part number. Can somebody please help me with the part number for the Turbocharger? OR direct me to somebody who can supply and install this part?
2nd generation Pajero (V90) had a slew of engines and one of those was the 2.8L 4M40 inline 4 cylinder Turbo diesel engine.

The Turbo Model was TF035HM-12. For this two different numbers are coming up; Part Number: 49135-03200 and OE Number: ME202466. You can try both of these numbers.

Good luck.
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I own a 2009 model Pajero SFX and the Turbo seems to have played up. I visited SVR Motors and they quoted 2.3lakhs for a replacement that is procured against order.

I checked online and there are turbochargers available for as low as 26k. I am not sure if they are compatible or if I can trust these vendors with my money.

Folks at SVR Motors refused to share the Part number. Can somebody please help me with the part number for the Turbocharger? OR direct me to somebody who can supply and install this part?
Turbo failure in a Pajero is a rare occurrence. Any negligence on maintenance front?

The price quoted by SVR Motors seems to be correct - the OE part retails at around USD 2,800 (approx Rs. 1.85 lac), and if you add import duty (from Japan or UAE), labor, and GST, I am sure it would amount to the quoted figure! While you can get aftermarket ones at a cheaper rate, how reliable are they going to be is anybody's guess! I would say your best bet is to go for an OE one, if you plan to keep the car long term. All the best - do keep us posted.

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2nd generation Pajero (V90) had a slew of engines and one of those was the 2.8L 4M40 inline 4 cylinder Turbo diesel engine.

The Turbo Model was TF035HM-12. For this two different numbers are coming up; Part Number: 49135-03200 and OE Number: ME202466. You can try both of these numbers.

Good luck.
Thanks buddy. The Model seems to be matching with what I found below. Do you think I should go ahead?

http://www.industrybuying.com/turboc...Specifications

ODO reads 130k. I use semi-synthetic oil and change it every 7,000kms. The air-intake hose was broken and I probably used the car for about 2,000kms without realizing. Assuming something got sucked into the Turbo causing it to fail :(

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The Model seems to be matching with what I found below. Do you think I should go ahead?

http://www.industrybuying.com/turboc...Specifications
There was only one variant ( engine) of Pajero that they sold in India, Industry buying has mixed reviews, I don't think you can get the same part at 1/10th prices anyways. Best will be to look at scrap markets like one we have in Mayapuri in North or a famous market in Merut where lot of scrap cars are bought.
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Re: Mitsubishi Pajero 2.8

Turbo overhaul VS New Turbo??

I am being offered a 50% discount on the Turbo plus a 6 months warranty(minus the bill) by an Authorized Service Center. Total damage of about 1.25 lakhs.

I have a quote from Cartisan who are willing to overhaul the Turbo ( Core assembly replacement, Intercooler and exhaust manifold removal and cleaning). They guarantee that once the core is changed, the turbo will run without a fault. Total damage of 35K.

I have a cousin in the US who is willing to procure the cartridge available on Amazon and send it across.
https://www.amazon.com/Abcturbo-Turb.../dp/B0741LC2WT

I am confused and any help is appreciated.

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I am being offered a 50% discount on the Turbo plus a 6 months warranty(minus the bill) by an Authorized Service Center. Total damage of about 1.25 lakhs.
When you say ASC, is it someplace other than SVR? Vijaychandra Motors? Either ways, not sure how can someone give a warranty without a bill/invoice!

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I have a quote from Cartisan who are willing to overhaul the Turbo ( Core assembly replacement, Intercooler and exhaust manifold removal and cleaning). They guarantee that once the core is changed, the turbo will run without a fault. Total damage of 35K.
Given that it is 1/6 the price of a turbo replacement at SVR, I'd say it is worth a shot. If it does not work out, you can go with SVR, albeit after 35K going down the drain.

If I were you, I would pivot this decision on my ownership plans for the Pajero. If I were planning to keep it long term (another 5+ years) then I'd probably bite the bullet and get a thorough job done by SVR. If not, other jugaads would do.

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Turbo overhaul VS New Turbo?
What did you finally do?
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Turbo overhaul VS New Turbo??

I am being offered a 50% discount on the Turbo plus a 6 months warranty(minus the bill) by an Authorized Service Center. Total damage of about 1.25 lakhs.

I am confused and any help is appreciated.

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Overhauled turbos do work, I have got the turbo of multiple cars repaired. The efficiency of them is still unknown (after overhauling).

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What did you finally do?
Replaced the core, cleaned the intercooler, changed oil, oil filter and air filter.
OUTCOME: Whining/whistling noise persists and the turbo boost is completely missing.

Picked up a working turbo from a friend's pajero and installed it just to rule out non-turbo issues.

OUTCOME: no change which leads me to believe the turbo was fine in the first place.

EGR checked, turbo plumbing checked, air intake hose replaced. The intake and outflow seems to be fine before installing the hose. Strangely though, nobody in Bangalore seems to have a flow meter to check the intake and outflow.

There's a mechanic in JC Road who is demanding 20k and claims to fix the boost issue in 2 days. However, he neither wants me to be around when the work is being carried nor is he willing to disclose what he is going to do with the car. Shady guy!!

I have had several mechanics tell me that the issue could be with the fuel injector, engine etc. Engine seems to be working fine, no oil damage/leakage.

I am thoroughly confused and any inputs would be highly appreciated. i read in one of the forums that the ABS and the turbo might be related(torque delivery). ABS is the only thing that will show up in a scan and that is what i am going to check tomorrow


The Pajero now runs like a petrol car with the boost completely missing and returns a mileage of 7kmpl. I am afraid the mechanics here in Bangalore are incapable.

Please let me know if there's something else i should be looking into.
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Please let me know if there's something else i should be looking into.
This is really unfortunate! Also, it seems surprising that you are not able to get good technical expertise here in Bangalore. Did you try reaching out to SVR again, stating your experience with the turbo-replacement troubleshooting? I'd be interested to know what they have to say on this.

Alternately, you could also consider driving down to Pune. As per TBHP-ian Tejas@perioimpl, the ASC there is quite good and competent. I am not aware of any FNGs here which are supposed to be good with the Pajero, a rare breed that it is!
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