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Originally Posted by The Wolf Sir, I am pretty glad to realize that you have done a lot of background verification on me and that I dont have an identity crisis even in a 4x4 thread, thank you so very much! |
I don't need to do background verification, being a long time member like you, I am familiar with your achievements.
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Originally Posted by The Wolf On a serious note, I wouldn't mind being called a ~"ROOKIE"~ in the 4x4 / offroading world hence was my attempt to invite meaningful inputs from which all the rookies on the forum can learn from you pros...and Im glad Im successful in doing so looking at your beautiful inputs below. Bear with rookies like me, I know it can be annoying for people of your stature... |
Hmm, now you went totally off the tangent. I generally place myself just above a newbie and still a long way to rookie. I know khan_sultan, Suresh Stephan,etc consider themselves rookies in offroading. So if you don't mind being called a rookie, then I should be learning from you, and I don't mind it. Regarding my stature, you don't have to respect my advanced age or moderator-ship. In discussions like this they don't count. Most people I take advice from are generally a decade younger than me. As mentioned in my moderator intro, I still remain the least knowledgeable moderator when it comes to automobiles. In fact, I found out how to fill oil in the Jeep only when I lost the engine oil at 1AM in Munnar OTR.
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Originally Posted by The Wolf Yes I have, have read at least 50%-60%, haha definitely more than most people reading about drags and Hondas here... |
To be frank I do read the drag/mod threads once in while. Not out of interest, but forced by moderator duty to resolve the numerous fights that break out there.
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Originally Posted by Samurai I have actually driven the Gurkha offroad, and can only shake my head at such a statement... |
I said Im sorry, are you like going to beat me up next or something???? |
Is shaking head prelude to a fist fight? Interesting concept, but one that is unfamiliar to me.
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Originally Posted by The Wolf Yeah, this again can be extremely subjective...Im sure there are so many here who would choose a Bolero over a GV. |
Is that supposed to provoke me? Nice try, but the statement is making my smile. Bolero is a better offroader than GV, has better FE than GV, costs just 40% of GV. So yeah, I can imagine lots of people who will choose a Bolero over GV.
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Originally Posted by The Wolf Its not about how each one feels about Bolero is what we're interested in, we're just trying to bring out something against the dormancy in the Boleros character coz so many others here feel that its THE best platform for the gene development of an extremely uncompromised/ almost perfect non-competition offroader in its class... Few folks who are die hard Bolero fans out here can throw more light to the context. |
We do have some Bolero fans in this section. But I have never seen them claiming that Bolero is the best offroader in the country.
Wolf, I know you can keep at this, so I'll make my point quickly. As I mentioned already, I respect your achievements and knowledge in modding/dragging, etc. But lateral transfer of racing knowledge to offroading doesn't really work. So I was more than a little surprised to find you in 4x4 section starting a thread with a controversial title, and then you are asking people to support their claims when they respond to you.
If I go into ICE section and start a thread saying "Isn't Bose the greatest speaker system ever?" or go into motor sport section and start a thread saying "Isn't Santro the best highway cruiser?", what kind of reaction I am supposed to expect? Mind you, there are lots of people who think Bose is the best and also people who think Santro can blaze the trail at 150-160kmph on the expressway.
If I am getting into new territory, I would start by asking a question, and not by making a controversial declaration. But that's just me, I have neither automotive knowledge nor racing experience, so humility comes without effort. But the 4x4 section here has some very senior and very knowledgeable people, no, don't even think of counting me among them. If you want their feedback, you could at least make a pretense at being humble, if not they won't bother responding to you.
Anyway, you are already a rookie, there is nothing I can teach you. But I can give you one advice, something non-technical. Offroading scene is a very friendly and non-competitive circle. And it is a very small world, by the time you attend 2-3 events, you'll know most regular offroaders on close terms. Many of them never even log into Team-BHP or Jeep Thrills, but know hell of a lot more than most keyboard warriors like us. You'll have a much better experience if you enter the offroading world with an open mind rather than preconceived notions. I know you are likely to throw away my advice like a dirty diaper, but I'll be content in knowing that I gave a sound advice, which I admit is entirely unsolicited.