Gypsy vs Gypsy King

prasygreat · 26th April 2005, 11:25

Hi
I am new to the forum. Wanted to know the difference between Maruti Gypsy and Maruti Gypsy King.
Also...wat could i expect to pay fr a Gypsy King, Fibre top, 1998, 50k Km with AC and LPG installation.

Experts on this please advice.

Scuderia · 26th April 2005, 12:23

The gypsy had a 1 litre - 45 bhp engine.

Was a great engine, bullet proof reliability.

But was a bit underpowered.

The Gypsy King had the 1.3 litre - 62 bhp engine, imported from the Esteem.

Great combo, makes up the shortage of power in the earlier model.

The newer versions of the same have an MPFi, hence bettering the ouput to 82 bhp. (not present in the 98 model)

Its a great car to drive on rough roads.

The torque comes at the right rpm and that coupled with all 4 leaf spring suspensions, makes it a good one off the road.

But do not expect any kind of comfort from this one. It is meant for hard core driving. Especially the rear seat has an extremely bumpy ride.

I sold my 1990 model , hard top , wid AC and bridgestone radials for 56 K.

So my estimate for a 98 hard top with AC (assuming good tyres) would be somewhere around 90K to 1lac.

shankaranand · 26th April 2005, 15:31

gypsy is out of fasion with kids also!,

do you really want to go for Gypsy??

While it is a great vehicle for rough terrains, I dont see any value in buying one for Mumbai.

typeOnegative · 26th April 2005, 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by shankaranand

gypsy is out of fasion with kids also!,

do you really want to go for Gypsy??

While it is a great vehicle for rough terrains, I dont see any value in buying one for Mumbai.

Mumbai roads are pretty rough terrain.

Sorry! I could not resist that one. And yes I do agree that the Gypsy is kind of obsolete.

shankaranand · 26th April 2005, 15:42

well,

you havent seen bangalore roads yet,..

for a bangalorean, mumbai roads probably will look like Hema Malini's cheek (pun intented

). and

and yeah, I agree with you.. mumbai roads become real bad during monsoon..

Revvmaster · 26th April 2005, 16:45

Well Prasy, there is also the current 82 bhp 1.3 litre MPFi version. The engine is the same Suzuki 13BB engine found on the Esteem and Versa as well, the torque curve is a little different to pull the nearly 1 ton vehicle through gradients and slush.

Finding a used Gypsy, especially in Mumbai should be tough. Don't pin your hopes on only one that you find. Take your time and look at atleast 3-4 before you decide. LPG kit on a Gypsy would really rob the vehicle of any power that produces. Coupled with the AC, and an autorickshaw would make mincemeat outta you.

My personal experience with the Gypsy is that it is a bit cramped but an extremely competent off-roader. The ride is a bit hard over anything that is a smooth surface. But then again, with leaf springs you really can't expect much. Ideally, look for a 2000+ model, if lucky go for the MPFi one. Expect it in the range of 1.5 to 2.25 L for a 2000-2003 model.

Revv

Revvmaster · 26th April 2005, 16:46

Alternatively, look for a last batch 4x4 Tata Sierra. With a nice diesel engine and space galore, you should find it an equally tempting option. Though extremely hard to find one.

Revv

Rodeo · 26th April 2005, 18:43

Its a great car... but test drive it before... as it is not a easy car to drive bcoz it lacks power steering...

Mpower · 26th April 2005, 18:57

Just wanted to add one more point to what Scuderia mentioned. The Gypsy King also came with a wider track compared to the old Gypsys. You can tell by the black wheel arch flares.

If you are into off roading, the Gypsy is the King. Also its dosen't fall apart like a Sierra.

Jaggu · 26th April 2005, 19:03

car is bumpy, fun to drive offroad, drinks gas like no ones business, handles crazy when driven fast..all the puny lil cars wont take panga with it and if its white with hardtop people make way thinking ur a cop..gypsy wont go above 100kph, so be ready for others to wizzpast u.. but no one will overtake u in slush.. all ur friends would love to flick it during weekends for moving house, taking the team mates to outdoor trip, dropping fem fatales with huge luggage to airports and railway station..bonnet is good enough to hold u n ur gf/better half to park ass when cofee day is full.. good for buddies to drink liquor and the space on the rear good enough to carry them when they are sloshed..u get some major ego boost with people looking at u with green eyes..had one for a year.. and all the above part of the experience..

check differential noise (only one amazingly expensive part).. rest is bullet proof.. drive it for at least 50 kms before deciding..

sold mine 97model (second owner) GYPSY (wide track as in King body) 65k km brand new 4 huge radials with stereo in bangalore in 2003 for 1.65 lakh (am i smart or what)

Samurai · 26th April 2005, 19:17

Didn't know Gypsy came with A/C...

Vulken Auto · 26th April 2005, 20:28

aa , gypsy; used to own one long back like 10 years when I was in college. Very harsh ride, drinks gas, rides smooth only when u have 10 guys at the back or ride with a 200 kg bag . Your back will hurt like ouch ouch at every bump. Still a great fan of it; engine is real smooth. Dont go for acessories unless hard top. Do keep in mind that your face will be dusty all times. Real hard to maintain inside if soft top. Loved old days they wont be back; u still a kid then enjoy

Samurai · 26th April 2005, 20:55

Just a note. I have seen that in USA people who use pickup trucks for everyday commute always have some 200-300lb weight on the backside to settle it down.

triggercool · 27th March 2006, 22:06

Still would say its a great suv to have.I LOVE IT

S@~+#0$# · 27th March 2006, 22:46

Call me old-fashioned if you like, the Gypsy will always be special for me. Even today, nothing comes close to an open-top Gypsy with a good set of alloys-tyres and a mellow exhaust note. I would love to own one anyday and in all probability, I will

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26th April 2005, 11:25	#1
prasygreat Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 23 Thanked: 0 Times	Gypsy vs Gypsy King Hi I am new to the forum. Wanted to know the difference between Maruti Gypsy and Maruti Gypsy King. Also...wat could i expect to pay fr a Gypsy King, Fibre top, 1998, 50k Km with AC and LPG installation. Experts on this please advice.
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26th April 2005, 12:23	#2
Scuderia BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 127 Thanked: 8 Times	The gypsy had a 1 litre - 45 bhp engine. Was a great engine, bullet proof reliability. But was a bit underpowered. The Gypsy King had the 1.3 litre - 62 bhp engine, imported from the Esteem. Great combo, makes up the shortage of power in the earlier model. The newer versions of the same have an MPFi, hence bettering the ouput to 82 bhp. (not present in the 98 model) Its a great car to drive on rough roads. The torque comes at the right rpm and that coupled with all 4 leaf spring suspensions, makes it a good one off the road. But do not expect any kind of comfort from this one. It is meant for hard core driving. Especially the rear seat has an extremely bumpy ride. I sold my 1990 model , hard top , wid AC and bridgestone radials for 56 K. So my estimate for a 98 hard top with AC (assuming good tyres) would be somewhere around 90K to 1lac.
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26th April 2005, 15:31	#3
shankaranand BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 164 Thanked: 23 Times	gypsy is out of fasion with kids also!, do you really want to go for Gypsy?? While it is a great vehicle for rough terrains, I dont see any value in buying one for Mumbai.
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26th April 2005, 15:42	#5
shankaranand BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 164 Thanked: 23 Times	well, you havent seen bangalore roads yet,.. for a bangalorean, mumbai roads probably will look like Hema Malini's cheek (pun intented ). and and yeah, I agree with you.. mumbai roads become real bad during monsoon..
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26th April 2005, 16:45	#6
Revvmaster Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,189 Thanked: 98 Times	Well Prasy, there is also the current 82 bhp 1.3 litre MPFi version. The engine is the same Suzuki 13BB engine found on the Esteem and Versa as well, the torque curve is a little different to pull the nearly 1 ton vehicle through gradients and slush. Finding a used Gypsy, especially in Mumbai should be tough. Don't pin your hopes on only one that you find. Take your time and look at atleast 3-4 before you decide. LPG kit on a Gypsy would really rob the vehicle of any power that produces. Coupled with the AC, and an autorickshaw would make mincemeat outta you. My personal experience with the Gypsy is that it is a bit cramped but an extremely competent off-roader. The ride is a bit hard over anything that is a smooth surface. But then again, with leaf springs you really can't expect much. Ideally, look for a 2000+ model, if lucky go for the MPFi one. Expect it in the range of 1.5 to 2.25 L for a 2000-2003 model. Revv
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26th April 2005, 16:46	#7
Revvmaster Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,189 Thanked: 98 Times	Alternatively, look for a last batch 4x4 Tata Sierra. With a nice diesel engine and space galore, you should find it an equally tempting option. Though extremely hard to find one. Revv
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26th April 2005, 18:43	#8
Rodeo BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 356 Thanked: 28 Times	Its a great car... but test drive it before... as it is not a easy car to drive bcoz it lacks power steering...
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26th April 2005, 18:57	#9
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,399 Thanked: 1,735 Times View My Garage	Just wanted to add one more point to what Scuderia mentioned. The Gypsy King also came with a wider track compared to the old Gypsys. You can tell by the black wheel arch flares. If you are into off roading, the Gypsy is the King. Also its dosen't fall apart like a Sierra.
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26th April 2005, 19:03	#10
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,383 Thanked: 17,294 Times	car is bumpy, fun to drive offroad, drinks gas like no ones business, handles crazy when driven fast..all the puny lil cars wont take panga with it and if its white with hardtop people make way thinking ur a cop..gypsy wont go above 100kph, so be ready for others to wizzpast u.. but no one will overtake u in slush.. all ur friends would love to flick it during weekends for moving house, taking the team mates to outdoor trip, dropping fem fatales with huge luggage to airports and railway station..bonnet is good enough to hold u n ur gf/better half to park ass when cofee day is full.. good for buddies to drink liquor and the space on the rear good enough to carry them when they are sloshed..u get some major ego boost with people looking at u with green eyes..had one for a year.. and all the above part of the experience.. check differential noise (only one amazingly expensive part).. rest is bullet proof.. drive it for at least 50 kms before deciding.. sold mine 97model (second owner) GYPSY (wide track as in King body) 65k km brand new 4 huge radials with stereo in bangalore in 2003 for 1.65 lakh (am i smart or what)
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26th April 2005, 19:17	#11
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 26,002 Thanked: 49,707 Times View My Garage	Didn't know Gypsy came with A/C...
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26th April 2005, 20:28	#12
Vulken Auto BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: . Posts: 594 Thanked: 385 Times	aa , gypsy; used to own one long back like 10 years when I was in college. Very harsh ride, drinks gas, rides smooth only when u have 10 guys at the back or ride with a 200 kg bag . Your back will hurt like ouch ouch at every bump. Still a great fan of it; engine is real smooth. Dont go for acessories unless hard top. Do keep in mind that your face will be dusty all times. Real hard to maintain inside if soft top. Loved old days they wont be back; u still a kid then enjoy
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26th April 2005, 20:55	#13
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 26,002 Thanked: 49,707 Times View My Garage	Just a note. I have seen that in USA people who use pickup trucks for everyday commute always have some 200-300lb weight on the backside to settle it down.
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27th March 2006, 22:06	#14
triggercool BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 154 Thanked: 6 Times	Still would say its a great suv to have.I LOVE IT
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27th March 2006, 22:46	#15
S@~+#0$# BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 700 Thanked: 43 Times View My Garage	Call me old-fashioned if you like, the Gypsy will always be special for me. Even today, nothing comes close to an open-top Gypsy with a good set of alloys-tyres and a mellow exhaust note. I would love to own one anyday and in all probability, I will .
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