[SJ410]

Originally Posted by SnakemanJohny

Thank you, SJ410! I have changed so many mirrors that I
That is another beauty about the GYPSY MIRROR -- it is inflation proof, aor has ports for another device, where I fitted the side-cam jacks.

Hey SMJ, could you share pics of the rear cam setup? Also where is the rear camera installed? On the bumper or inside of the rear door? Where have you mounted the viewing screen?

[SnakemanJohny]

Sorry for the delay, SJ410. I do not use a smartphone (so no camera), and my old-fashioned camera has gone for repairs !

The rear camera has been mounted on the steel bumper centre, and this involved a lot of work : the enclosed hole saw could just mark the outline before going totally blunt -- it is meant for plastic bumpers only !
Increasing sizes of drill bits were used, to finish with a half-round file. But the connection to the reversing light was easy -- being housed in the bumper itself.
The rear door would have been slightly easier to drill, but the wiring would have to be more complicated.


The viewing screen is on the dashboard, to the left of the steering wheel, just under the speed-radar detector & above the clock in the second pic attached. The other screen further left (under the dashcam) is of MAP MY INDIA (which does not require a SIM and connects directly to any three satellites available to triangulate GPS position).
To the extreme left is the Citizen Band radio.


An extremely cluttered dashboard, I apologize !

[condor]

Originally Posted by SnakemanJohny

.. above the clock in the second pic attached.

Nice clock there - can you share the details pls

[SnakemanJohny]

A Russian clock from E-BAY ten plus years old. I did not like the overpriced but cheap quality LED 'Gypsy clocks' available in India, but had still fitted one, which lasted less than a year !

A pity, as I could get an Indian made analogue clock for my earlier MG 410 at a shop in Calcutta. And for my Jonga, I got a Kienzle (German) clock easily in 1987 ! That is still running perfectly.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by SJ410

Fellow BHPians, any suggestions for servicing of a Gypsy in the Richmond Town/Viveknagar Area in Bangalore?

If it is a standard plain old regular servicing bring it to Green Cars, the authorised Maruti Service Centre on Koramangala 80 feet road next to the Girias showroom and Hanuman temple. This is pretty near Vivek Nagar, National Games Village and Sony World Signal. There is a very good gypsy mechanic Parandhaman there, who wil be able to service it. The Gypsy is a simple vehicle and needs only routine servicing unless some part has given up and needs changing.

Nowadays I go there because mine is bone-stock and I want all the service history recorded. So I sit through the oil and fluid changes and cleaning and pay and take it away. The next one is due in March 2023.

If you’re looking for gypsy specialist service and modifications and all then there is RAC Garage in Koramangala who are superb gypsy specialists. You may find them a bit expensive though, over time.

There is Sri Raksha service in Sarjapur Road next to Kaikondrahalli lake, Iblur area. They know their stuff. But getting undivided proper attention from them is difficult.

[reddy6980]

Hi All,

Any leads to where I can source a used hard top for my gypsy, preferably in Bangalore

Thanks

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by reddy6980

Hi All,

Any leads to where I can source a used hard top for my gypsy, preferably in Bangalore

Thanks

Try RAC in Koramangala and Sri Raksha in Sarjapura Road and Bro’s Garage in Garvebhavipalya - Haralur area.

Nagaraj - Bro’s +91 98452 75036
Ranjit - RAC +91 98453 03131
Sardar of Sri Raksha number I dont have but its easy to find him next to Kaikondrahalli Lake on Sarjapura Road near Iblur junction.
Also worth asking Shravan +91 96869 44088

[shankar.balan]

I have a query relating to the Tyre Balancing and Wheel Alignment of my Maruti Gypsy. (2014 manufactured, original civilian registered, bone-stock factory-spec in all respects, except for the Hella fog lamps). This is specifically to do with its non radial, cross ply, nylon OEM spec tyres.

We all know the Maruti Gypsy is a derivative of the Suzuki SJ410/413/ Samurai and all. We also know it is basically an old design - maybe 40 years old. And we also know that traditionally, all wheel alignment jobs were done manually using the plumb line and weights and all that, along with the castor/ camber adjustments using spanners and screw drivers along with an occasional tap on the head with a hammer.

My specific query is why, in 2023, with all the advances in Computerised Wheel Balancing and Alignment technology, are we still being advised still, to do the Gypsy using the manual method?

Is it that all the Computers and machines are completely bamboozled by the Gypsy’s old and non high tech nature and therefore unable to read or fathom the Gypsy’s basic readings and interpret them correctly?

If this is indeed true, then how do Samurai owners in the so-called ‘Developed’ countries manage? For example I don’t think there are any manual wheel alignment centres in the Urban areas of the US and Australia and I would hardly expect a Samurai owner from the US or Australia to toodle along from say, Nebraska to Tijuana or Ciudad Juarez in Mexico or from Melbourne to perhaps rural Alice Springs to get his/ her wheel alignment done!

Any advice will be deeply appreciated because this particular thing has been niggling at me for several years and I still don’t have a full and proper explanation/ answer.

Or is there something else entirely that I am missing.

[condor]

Shankar, I think you would have posted this after sufficient alignments done for the Gypsy.

How have you been doing it for all the Gypsy's you have had for the past 25 years ? Is it manual or the regular alignment places ?

I think, if the alignment machine's database has readings for a Gypsy, then it could be on the computerised machines too.

[MissionManali]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

My specific query is why, in 2023, with all the advances in Computerised Wheel Balancing and Alignment technology, are we still being advised still, to do the Gypsy using the manual method?

I am getting this done at computerized stations both at Chandigarh and Manali. No questions asked.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by condor

How have you been doing it for all the Gypsy's you have had for the past 25 years ? Is it manual or the regular alignment places ?.

Originally Posted by MissionManali

I am getting this done at computerized stations both at Chandigarh and Manali. No questions asked.

@condor - Ive been doing it manually all these years. When I bought my new tyres 8-9’months ago the MRF blokes balanced them for me but sent me to a nearby place for manual alignment. Their recommendation was to this manually so there is a chap just in the service lane of the Hosur Main road Basha Tyres who does the job. This morning I went to Shivasai tyres in HSR and the chap there said sorry he cannot do this for the Gypsy. I plan to ring up Tyre Empire HSR also now and ask if they can. I have already checked with Madhu’s and they say they can handle it.

@MissionManali - this time I will try doing it in a computerised place. Madhu’s is the best in Bangalore. But one has to plan the day and visit them.

[condor]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

Their recommendation was to this manually so there is a chap just in the service lane of the Hosur Main road Basha Tyres who does the job. ... I have already checked with Madhu’s and they say they can handle it..

Is this Basha guy close to the Kudlu gate signal ?

A little more than 9 years back, when my Storme was new and TASS could not resolve the left pull on their alignment machine, they had taken it to a manual alignment shop near the Signal. I later moved to Madhu's at Langford Road where the issue was resolved under the supervision of Mr Gopal. One difference could be the skill level of the people at TASS vs the boys at a place like Madhu's who do alignment everyday, and on the whole range of cars.

Btw, if Madhu's and other shops have said they cant do the Gypsy alignment, it looks likely that the computerised shops do not have the required readings for the job.


EDIT:
ref post below, I did mis-read that part about Madhu's being able to do the job.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by condor

Is this Basha guy close to the Kudlu gate signal ?

Btw, if Madhu's and other shops have said they cant do the Gypsy alignment, it looks likely that the computerised shops do not have the required readings for the job.

Yes Basha is close to that Kudlu area - somewhere near expressway pillar 42 or so on Hosur Road but on the service lane.

Perhaps you mis-read. Mohsin of Madhu’s told me 2 days ago, that they can do the job. Im just trying to find an alternative nearer to me.

There is one more chap Chand in HSR near the bus depot. He also does all manner of old vehicles the ild fashioned manual way.

Tyre Empire just confirmed they can do the job so am going there to see.

[SJ410]

Originally Posted by SnakemanJohny

Sorry for the delay, SJ410. I do not use a smartphone (so no camera), and my old-fashioned camera has gone for repairs !


An extremely cluttered dashboard, I apologize !

Thank you Snakeman! Nice view of the dashboard. Feels like a fighter plane cockpit with the screens and multiple data inputs for the pilot aka driver.
I am planning to install a rear view camera too. Lets see how it goes. I have an extra central rear view mirror installed for a better view of the back given the forward facing second row seats. There is very less room for manipulation of the angle and my wife finds it difficult to reverse the gypsy. Looking at the rear view cam option.

The maps in your gypsy is intriguing.

[SnakemanJohny]

Thanks, SJ, The bare dashboard of the Gypsy made me add all those meters/gauges. Most functions would be available now-a-days in the infotainment screens or MIDs.

Reversing Gypsies with front facing second row seats are a problem, I agree.
You can choose either a camera with a separate dash-mounted monitor, or one with a wider IRVM which clips over the standard mirror. I have the first type. Rear sensors were fitted first which beep, talk, and show distance on the clip on IRVM, which is also tinted for night driving.

Both kinds should be available in car-deco shops. I rely on Amazon for a w-i-d-e variety, and fit everything myself.