[randeep04]

Hi Everyone,

I visited the workshop yesterday at Jaipur and the work on the Willy's is complete and work on the Uaz is nearing completion. The Seats on the Uaz are being fabricated and the tyres and rims are awaited.

At the same time the work has also begun on the Land Rover SWB.

Here are some pics on the same.

Cheers !!!!!!!!!!

[Brutus]

Hey, i see an intercooler on the gaz but there's no scoop on the hood for the air heat-exchanger

[randeep04]

Originally Posted by Brutus

Hey, i see an intercooler on the gaz but there's no scoop on the hood for the air heat-exchanger

Bikram,

This vehicle is not a Russian Gaz but a Russian Uaz 469. The intercooler that that you see is because the engine has been changed and an Isuzu 2.8 Turbo intercooler with 4WD has been installed.

Cheers !!!!!!!!!

[Brutus]

Uaz, Gaz, its the same thing, just a minor difference between to 2. Quite like the Gpw and the Mb.
So now you would have to place the charge Air-cooler elsewhere if you don't want to cut a scoop in the hood. Where have you thought of placing it, and which intercooler do you intend to use now?
And is it going to use both the fuel tanks?
I used to see an older version, the Gaz49 in Malout, and the guy was asking for 25grands. Somebody asked me to take a look out too, but i think i was bit a wee bit too late and the guy had already sold it.
There was a Uaz/Gaz469, and a van of the same make(and probably used the same chassis too) in Phatankot a few yrs ago, sold for 28grands. But that same yr, i saw one in Mayapuri and that guy quoted 80Grands for one with a even worse condition. The mayapuri guys tend to charge way too much than their Phatankot counterparts, but the Phatankot guys are catching up fast. The best policy that i've heard is to go wearing a Kurta-pajama, not the white one since then they automatically come to know your a rich kakka, but a bit dirty one so they think your some sort of dealer or a garage owner, and then they don't tend to overcharge you or bargaining becomes easier,lol., otherwise they are stubborn as anything. I've never been able to do that, but am still on the lookout for someone who can.

I remember i was looking for those flexible exhaust pipes so that you don't have to use the silencer pipe rubber mounts that keep breaking up. The Mahindra one's only come with the exhaust pipe and thats too expensive, and anyways, since you cannot use the same pipes for your vehicle, you would have to cut the thing up just to use the flexible part, which is way too small, and becomes even smaller after you've cut the welded part, so it all becomes useless. I found one from the Tatra, a huge 1 foot pipe with about 4" of diameter, which though would not be any good for normal cars with smaller than 5l turbo motors but it's perfect for the cummins motor, but those guys knew i want it, and i wanted it bad. So i finally had to shell out a 1000bucks for something that if available in the market would be for less than half the rate.

[randeep04]

Hi Bikram,

Surdy I must say you have amazing knowledge of Jeeps and other offroaders. It would be fun to meet in person and gain some info from you.

Well as far as I know the Engine has been started a couple of times and the intercooler is working. I do not know much of the tech stuff so pardon my ignorance.

Cheers !!!!!!!!!!

[hillram]

A 3 Front Seater with split is somethng that i have never seen.What could be the purpose?

[Brutus]

lol, anytime surd, am always there for friends.
and no worries about the intercooler stuff.

[randeep04]

A few pics of a classic Chevy truck being renovated at the same workshop.

[Brutus]

Man, this Chevy is just like mine, minus the rear hood(and mine i blue in colour). Also mine i think is some sort of limited edition because the front and the rear crash guards are a little different. I've been searching the web, and looking at all these owned by ppl across the world, but none of them had the same crash guards. I don't know why, but i think the cabin roof of the Chevy in the above pictures looks a little kind of bulged and higher than usual. Ofcourse mine is rotting so its nowhere close to this one, and it has an irritating Inter motor instead of the straight-6, but i'am waiting for the day when my Bhua would finally me to do something about it rather than just letting it rot. Already have my sights on a period Big block v8, and a low rider stance.
Cheers!!!

[SirAlec]

Uaz, Gaz, its the same thing, just a minor difference between to 2. Quite like the Gpw and the Mb.

both are totally different company with different history behind. yeah! UAZ did made Gaz69, in its factory. UAZ was replacement for Gaz69.
Also Gaz was started through co-operation from Ford.

[Brutus]

Yes, thats true, but probably all russian vehicles were manufactured by outside help, especially the Americans during WW2. Remember the lend-lease program when they send those chevy trucks, jeeps and the p-40's to Russe.
The miltary transfered the production to Uaz, but thats because the military wanted them to concentrate on building cross-country vehicles that could cover the vast uncrossable terrian of russ. They became more involved in making tracked vehicles(gaz made the gax trucks, and those very small, car size tracked amphi-vehicles).
Uaz, even in the newer vehicle, still uses the major components of the gaz, therefore its just like the ford-willys relationship, well sort off. But the balance of power has now shifted back with the major backbone fleet of russ military vehicles still coming from the gaz factories. Take the look at their latest 4x4's, the gaz vodnik or even the tigre. Both of them are based on the Tatra kind of platform, with semi-solid independent axles, and i think the Tigre uses the same Cummins motor as our Tata trucks.

[Ricky_3007]

Hi Randeep,

Surely you are blessed that you are able to be there and watch , drive , feel these antique master pieces . Just Great!!!

Dear Bikram,

I agree with Randeep that you have amazing knowledge on all kind of offroaders and Cars. This is very rare and I am seeing that you are always there in all the threads to help people like us who have less or no knowledge of Jeeps. Just keep this up Sir , hats off to you.
Can I request you to share pics of your collection of vehicles and the other stuff which you have .Just an humble request Sirji...

Tarkesh

[Brutus]

You don't need to call me sir, Bhaiji. I'am just a kid, and still trying to gain as much knowledge from old timers. Besides there are so many ppl here that know loads more, and some of them gave me great insight to a lot of things, and corrected me a million times.

As for cars, i know nothing about them, infact don't even like them. I have this mercedes and the crv at home and trust me, all these yrs, i hav'nt even laid as much as a finger on either of them. If they need to be moved somewhere and theres no one around to do that, even then i just blankly refuse to, lol. Always been an offroader, either on tractors, or 4 wheel drives, or even on camel or horseback, i'am just plain petrified of driving low down driving stance of the cars. I need to sit high up, like in a truck, where i can see over the car in front of me.

As for Jeeps too, i don't have much knowledge about, but maybe the other kinds of 4 wheel drive i do have some idea about. Infact i am more intrested in the mechanials and performance stuff like suspension, motors, axles, etc rather than the looks. The reason why i know about the gaz stuff is becasue i am a huge fan of russian machinery (and their women,lol), and in my free time i'am always working on the language translators for decoding russ stuff. Though I always feel that unlike the americans who always tend to create some kind of superior, and out of this world tech propaganda for their products, the russians rather beleive in the actual field theories, and how they perform in the actual conditions. Why, take a look at the M47/48 Patton tanks used in the '71 war by Pakistan. That time it was thought of as the most advanced tank in the world, and look what happened in the war. It was the backbone of the entire fleet and its back was broken by just one well placed attack in Asal-uttar, when half their fleet of pattons was butchered by the T-55's and the Vicker's Tanks, which around the world at the time were considered obsolete tanks designed in the end of WW2(there have been reports of the Centurians Tanks too, but not confired at all. Infact even confirming that the Centurian was still used by the Army when the war started is quite difficult, as they are very few documents that even mentions the Centurian ever being used by the Army. It is said the Indian versions used diesel motors, although the major bulk of export centurians of the time used the Rolls-Royce Meteor V12, basically the same engine as used in the Spitfire aircraft of WW2, the 27,000cc Rolls-Royce Merlin, but minus the superchargers). Whats more it still used petrol engines, whereas almost all the tanks of the world operated on diesel or multi-fuel motors. The biggest lessons learnt by tank regiments in WW2 was not to use petrol as all it took was a spark to make it into a bomb, and even the worst designed tank of the war, the russian T-34 used diesel motors just for the same reason( by the way, this tank was considered the best even though the poorest design. As legend has it, when the first batch of tanks that came out, a single T-34 manned entirely by women, entered the battlefield, and was immediately put up againt about 40 German Tiger tanks, cosidered the most advanced, the biggest, most heavily armed, and with the most powerful gun at the time. The result were amazing, that puny little tank, with some really useless armour, and a very moderate gun for the time, and with a useless layout for the crew that firstly had no radio, and the commander had to become the gunner causing confussion incase of an attack and obviously decreased the co-ordination between the crew, was not only victorious, but the only tank to exit the battlefield, the rest all destroyed.

I do have the chevy pics lying around, and even the '71 jeeps amongst the other stuff. Only pics that i don't have right now are the '65 jeep and the '57 enfield coz they're in the village. As for the Jonga pics, hold on tight, you see something coming up within the next month or two.
Take care,
Bikram

[vintagepoint5]

One of my friend acquired UAZ Jeep around 1938 model as per him in Hyd, his mechanic is working on it, according to him he fix Mahindra Diesel engine and Nissan gear box in the Jeep. I will post the pictures soon after scanning it. I am not expert in this cars, so it is open to experts who can identify the correct model. According to his friends very few models of this type of cars in India, let us find out.

[SirAlec]

Originally Posted by vintagepoint5

One of my friend acquired UAZ Jeep around 1938 model as per him in Hyd, his mechanic is working on it, according to him he fix Mahindra Diesel engine and Nissan gear box in the Jeep. I will post the pictures soon after scanning it. I am not expert in this cars, so it is open to experts who can identify the correct model. According to his friends very few models of this type of cars in India, let us find out.

thats funny, coz UAZ itself started in 1941. and they did not just started 4x4 production. they started by producing trucks.