Gypsy Diesel conversion with 4x4

headers · 27th March 2009, 16:17

Ankit,

I've had no problems even with 215/75s Pirelli Scorpion on Loose sand..

It is better that all the 4 tyres have the same OD..

Cheers

nitrous · 27th March 2009, 16:23

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Originally Posted by headers

It is better that all the 4 tyres have the same OD..

It isn't better!
It is absolutely mandatory to have the same OD at all four corners in a 4x4.

headers · 27th March 2009, 16:26

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Originally Posted by nitrous

It isn't better!
It is absolutely mandatory to have the same OD at all four corners in a 4x4.

The BOSS is ALWAYS RIGHT..

praveencr85 · 21st June 2009, 16:45

A quick question to all ...

can we retain the 4x4 if we get a swift's DDIS engine into gypsy?
I am saving all my money to get my dream offroader...kindly help.

4x4addict · 21st June 2009, 17:33

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Originally Posted by praveencr85

A quick question to all ...

can we retain the 4x4 if we get a swift's DDIS engine into gypsy?
I am saving all my money to get my dream offroader...kindly help.

I am no expert on the Gypsy. However from reading various gypsy mod threads people have been able to retain 4WD after other conversions, so it should be possible. The only tricky part would be that the DDIS is a side mounted engine, whereas he gypsy has the engine straight so I am not sure if this causes any additional issues.

headers · 22nd June 2009, 06:23

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Originally Posted by 4x4addict

The only tricky part would be that the DDIS is a side mounted engine, whereas he gypsy has the engine straight so I am not sure if this causes any additional issues.

A transverse engine can be mounted normally. The trick is in mating the engine to the gearbox! I too am searching for a DDIS first, and a donor gypsy next!

GoSlow · 22nd June 2009, 16:50

Looks like we are all dreaming of the DDis Gypsy. I am going to start looking out for this engine next year. Plan is to swap it for the Nissan in my Gypsy currently. Not sure what will hapen when you are using engine braking to go down hill and the turbo kicks in!

Praveen - you can retain the 4x4 because Gypsy has a divorced trnasfer case. The problem may arise with the front diff hitting the sump but then you can get the sump modified to a similar shape as that on the Gypsy King. Though you may want to retain the Gypsy King gearbox as it works well with the transfer case gearing.

Cheers
Ankit

Shubhendra · 22nd June 2009, 17:57

Hi Ankit,
If I am not wrong you work in Sector-127 Noida. i have seen your Gypsy few months back probably after accident when you was driving damaged vehicle. I am with HCL Technologies (Sector 126)Actually i Have the same Nissan engine in my Jeep and i want to overhaul this engine as i have used it for almost 4 years(Don't know the Kilometers

. Can you please PM me address of Mechanic who has done this conversion.

praveencr85 · 22nd June 2009, 18:07

Thanks for the input guys ..

I ill be back in india by december, so by that time i need to acquire this DDIS engine. frns are helping me in searching the same . can i get a new engine from maruti directly?i dont mind spending money for a brand new engine as it ill be a life long affair with gypsy(my first luv) .

headers · 22nd June 2009, 20:27

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Originally Posted by GoSlow

Not sure what will hapen when you are using engine braking to go down hill and the turbo kicks in!

Ankit, Hi, Nothing will happen when going downhill. Infact Turbo will not kick in unless one accelarates!

GoSlow · 23rd June 2009, 09:26

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Originally Posted by praveencr85

Thanks for the input guys ..

I ill be back in india by december, so by that time i need to acquire this DDIS engine. frns are helping me in searching the same . can i get a new engine from maruti directly?i dont mind spending money for a brand new engine as it ill be a life long affair with gypsy(my first luv) .

I did contact Maruti for this conversion and they wrote back telling me to Contact one of the dealers/workshops and they will be able to do this for me. I did not take it further at that point.

Regards
Ankit

GoSlow · 24th June 2009, 09:54

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Originally Posted by headers

Ankit, Hi, Nothing will happen when going downhill. Infact Turbo will not kick in unless one accelarates!

Sounds good. Its all ahead then... well after recession that is.

I am changing my tryes for the stock Gypsy tyres. Getting some brand new ones donated to me by one of the NIOC guys (The guy in the pic who is driving my gypsy) who bought a brand new Gypsy and is getting 35" tyres fitted to it with coil spring suspension.

Its the rear tyre which lets me down each time and cant afford to buy new tyres right now. What do you guys think?

renegade · 24th June 2009, 10:14

good going goslow, you got a very nice gypsy,had a good ride in it while coming back from an otr in hisar,though the credit of a good ride goes to our "chadha saab" as he didnt let us feel the bumps as he flying over them

.I have been having a weird idea on engine conversions and i am usually not practical in this field,i would like to know,how about plonking in a d4d(innova diesel) with adapter plate for the gearbox in a gypsy?just a thought.

ciao

mandeep

harjeev · 24th June 2009, 11:36

@Mandeep
Thanks buddy!!! The pleasure is all mine

You can have that ride anytime you want!!! I will happily play driver for you!!!

The Innova experiment should be great!!! When are you trying it out. What would be the options of the Innova engine vs the DDiS MAruti Swift engine!!!

What's say Ankit!!! Whenever you think of changing the engine this should be a good option. I perso

GoSlow · 24th June 2009, 13:08

Hi Mandeep/ Harjeev

Toyota D4D is quite a powerful engine. Good thought!

How much does it weigh? Will there be issues with the front being too heavy and compared to the rear of the vehicle? I would like to see this done. would make it a MONSTER offroader!

Cheers
Ankit

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headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,668 Thanked: 563 Times	Ankit, I've had no problems even with 215/75s Pirelli Scorpion on Loose sand.. It is better that all the 4 tyres have the same OD.. Cheers
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21st June 2009, 16:45	#109
praveencr85 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 75 Thanked: 0 Times	A quick question to all ... can we retain the 4x4 if we get a swift's DDIS engine into gypsy? I am saving all my money to get my dream offroader...kindly help.
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22nd June 2009, 16:50	#112
GoSlow BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Noida Posts: 507 Thanked: 78 Times	Looks like we are all dreaming of the DDis Gypsy. I am going to start looking out for this engine next year. Plan is to swap it for the Nissan in my Gypsy currently. Not sure what will hapen when you are using engine braking to go down hill and the turbo kicks in! Praveen - you can retain the 4x4 because Gypsy has a divorced trnasfer case. The problem may arise with the front diff hitting the sump but then you can get the sump modified to a similar shape as that on the Gypsy King. Though you may want to retain the Gypsy King gearbox as it works well with the transfer case gearing. Cheers Ankit
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22nd June 2009, 17:57	#113
Shubhendra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Poona Posts: 1,294 Thanked: 2,319 Times	Hi Ankit, If I am not wrong you work in Sector-127 Noida. i have seen your Gypsy few months back probably after accident when you was driving damaged vehicle. I am with HCL Technologies (Sector 126)Actually i Have the same Nissan engine in my Jeep and i want to overhaul this engine as i have used it for almost 4 years(Don't know the Kilometers. Can you please PM me address of Mechanic who has done this conversion.
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22nd June 2009, 18:07	#114
praveencr85 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 75 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks for the input guys .. I ill be back in india by december, so by that time i need to acquire this DDIS engine. frns are helping me in searching the same . can i get a new engine from maruti directly?i dont mind spending money for a brand new engine as it ill be a life long affair with gypsy(my first luv) .
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24th June 2009, 10:14	#118
renegade BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NEW DELHI Posts: 184 Thanked: 43 Times View My Garage	good going goslow, you got a very nice gypsy,had a good ride in it while coming back from an otr in hisar,though the credit of a good ride goes to our "chadha saab" as he didnt let us feel the bumps as he flying over them.I have been having a weird idea on engine conversions and i am usually not practical in this field,i would like to know,how about plonking in a d4d(innova diesel) with adapter plate for the gearbox in a gypsy?just a thought. ciao mandeep Last edited by renegade : 24th June 2009 at 10:21.
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24th June 2009, 11:36	#119
harjeev Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,899 Thanked: 293 Times View My Garage	@Mandeep Thanks buddy!!! The pleasure is all mine You can have that ride anytime you want!!! I will happily play driver for you!!! The Innova experiment should be great!!! When are you trying it out. What would be the options of the Innova engine vs the DDiS MAruti Swift engine!!! What's say Ankit!!! Whenever you think of changing the engine this should be a good option. I perso
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24th June 2009, 13:08	#120
GoSlow BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Noida Posts: 507 Thanked: 78 Times	Hi Mandeep/ Harjeev Toyota D4D is quite a powerful engine. Good thought! How much does it weigh? Will there be issues with the front being too heavy and compared to the rear of the vehicle? I would like to see this done. would make it a MONSTER offroader! Cheers Ankit
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