From a mm540 to a wicked offroader.(the build is on).

Brutus · 14th April 2009, 20:03

If you think you can do one better on it, then why not. You can surely do the other one better by the experiance you gained on this one, provided you have the time to do it. When i built my jeep it helped me a lot, and now i too am selling one of the jeeps, the '71, to provide the resources for the jonga.

whicked wheels · 14th April 2009, 23:39

Hi Brutus, yes man the same is happening here i dont want to miss the chance of the armada 4wd as they are rare to find. its my long time dream to build long wheel base 4wd.

Brutus · 14th April 2009, 23:43

If you want to do that, why don't you go for the armada grand. It has the newer chassis and the bigger motor.
Or if you rally want to offroad hard, the flatfender seems a better choice, but you lose the comfort and the ergonomics of the armada.

whicked wheels · 18th April 2009, 00:31

For the time being the armada and the cj 3 plans are dropped. tomorow going in for a Ex army 98 model MM 550 if possiable a 2000 one.

Guess what the jeeps engines are in running condition.not driveable bucause of some small pipes and other nick nacks as you know.

Brutus · 18th April 2009, 00:52

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Originally Posted by whicked wheels

For the time being the armada and the cj 3 plans are dropped. tomorow going in for a Ex army 98 model MM 550 if possiable a 2000 one.

Well, that would be the 540, so beware if someone told you its a 550. 550's weren't out till i think the late 2004 or the early 2005. The easiest way to differentiate is that its got Bolero size springs, some 2.5-2.75" wide.

4x4 loaded · 18th April 2009, 01:13

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Originally Posted by Brutus

Well, that would be the 540, so beware if someone told you its a 550. 550's weren't out till i think the late 2004 or the early 2005. The easiest way to differentiate is that its got Bolero size springs, some 2.5-2.75" wide.

Hi Brutus,

MM550 was surely available in 1998.

Regards..Saikat

bigman · 18th April 2009, 01:31

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550's weren't out till i think the late 2004 or the early 2005

Those were the 5 speed MM550s.

Deleted rest as Alfa has posted correct model breakdown.

whicked wheels · 18th April 2009, 01:33

JUst checked it today both the vehicles are mm550,front disc brakes, single leaver shift (4x4),freewheel hubs, xd engine and the tags are also there.Will get the pics tomorow. but confirmed they are mm550. My friend too had a 2000 model.

Alfa_Kilo · 18th April 2009, 01:35

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Originally Posted by Brutus

Well, that would be the 540, so beware if someone told you its a 550. 550's weren't out till i think the late 2004 or the early 2005. The easiest way to differentiate is that its got Bolero size springs, some 2.5-2.75" wide.

The 550 was out in the mid 90s. I have a 99 550. Technically there is no difference between 540/550.
These were the models...

MM540DP 2.1D
MM440 2.2P
MM550DP 2.1D (reclassified as an eight seater for tax benifit in some states)
MM540XD 2.5D
MM550XD 2.5D
MM550XDB 2.5D 5 speed
MM550XD (army vesion with detail differences, later shorter axle gearing)
MM550XD (army with NGCS, KMT90)
MM550XDB (army, NGCS, 5 speeed)
MM ISZ 1.8P
Quadro (It seems mahindra did not learn anything from this and continue to provide expensive gaudy cosmetic mods like the sovenier etc.)

bigman · 18th April 2009, 02:01

Just been digging in my bookmarks.

ex670c wrote :

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1) 1985-87??89 - The first batch of the MM540 they were built on CJ500D chassis with a 43/8 (petrol hurricane) differential ratio.
Features XD4.9P 2.2L Diesel Engine.
Rounded Bumpers ala CJ340 with diesel tank filler at the Back (RHS)
Also the MM440 with F4-134 Hurricane.

2) 1987??89-1994 - The second batch of the MM540 had a flat belt like bumpers and the with diesel tank filler on the RHS. The differential ratio changed to 44/9. Engine remained the same

3) 1995-2000 - The XD3P was introduced in the MM540 along with a weaker new chassis which doesnot have the "V" crossmember at the back to fit the towing hook.

4) 2000 - The new look MM540 & MM550 was introduced.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/suvs-m...-what-say.html

Alfa is yours a Year 99/00 with service entry in 00 ? or a Year 98/99 with service entry in 99 ?

whicked wheels · 18th April 2009, 02:06

Just remembered something the plate on the inside, next to the left door. There is some thing written like aquired in 1998 and also in the 2000. i think its the date that the army has taken position of the jeep. (correct me if i am wrong )

bigman · 18th April 2009, 02:12

Whicked wheels,

Yes under serial # there will be Year along the lines of 2000-2001 and then further down the date of acceptance e.g. 22 March 2001 and then below that year of entry into service 2001.

The years are usually printed on the plate in black and the date (e.g. 22 March) is stamped into the plate.

What plans you got for the new 550 ?

Brutus · 18th April 2009, 03:01

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Originally Posted by Alfa_Kilo

The 550 was out in the mid 90s. I have a 99 550. Technically there is no difference between 540/550.

Do you mean the 550's are other models besides the one with the Bolero chassis? I used to think that they are called 550 because of the Bolero chassis, and not because they use the 2.5liter motors. thanks for the correction.

4x4addict · 18th April 2009, 07:47

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Originally Posted by Brutus

Do you mean the 550's are other models besides the one with the Bolero chassis? I used to think that they are called 550 because of the Bolero chassis, and not because they use the 2.5liter motors. thanks for the correction.

540 and 550 really has nothing to do with the powertrain/mechanicals. 550 was launched as an eight seater version of the 540 for excise duty reduction. MM550 DP is available with 2.1 liter peugot engine and 4+1 gearbox. The engine/gear box combo is defined by the charaters after. ie, DP (2.1L + KMT 4 speed). XD (2.5L + KMT 4 Speed), XDB (2.5L + BA10 5 Speed gearbox).

Brutus · 18th April 2009, 13:16

Thats good info guys. I don't know nutz about the 540-550 on this behalf, but tell me something guys, when did the military jeeps start having those engine oil coolers?

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14th April 2009, 23:39	#77
whicked wheels BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PUNE Posts: 366 Thanked: 83 Times View My Garage	Hi Brutus, yes man the same is happening here i dont want to miss the chance of the armada 4wd as they are rare to find. its my long time dream to build long wheel base 4wd.
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14th April 2009, 23:43	#78
Brutus BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 376 Thanked: 69 Times	If you want to do that, why don't you go for the armada grand. It has the newer chassis and the bigger motor. Or if you rally want to offroad hard, the flatfender seems a better choice, but you lose the comfort and the ergonomics of the armada.
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18th April 2009, 00:31	#79
whicked wheels BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PUNE Posts: 366 Thanked: 83 Times View My Garage	For the time being the armada and the cj 3 plans are dropped. tomorow going in for a Ex army 98 model MM 550 if possiable a 2000 one. Guess what the jeeps engines are in running condition.not driveable bucause of some small pipes and other nick nacks as you know.
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18th April 2009, 01:33	#83
whicked wheels BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PUNE Posts: 366 Thanked: 83 Times View My Garage	JUst checked it today both the vehicles are mm550,front disc brakes, single leaver shift (4x4),freewheel hubs, xd engine and the tags are also there.Will get the pics tomorow. but confirmed they are mm550. My friend too had a 2000 model. Last edited by whicked wheels : 18th April 2009 at 01:40. Reason: forgot something.
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18th April 2009, 02:06	#86
whicked wheels BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PUNE Posts: 366 Thanked: 83 Times View My Garage	Just remembered something the plate on the inside, next to the left door. There is some thing written like aquired in 1998 and also in the 2000. i think its the date that the army has taken position of the jeep. (correct me if i am wrong )
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18th April 2009, 02:12	#87
bigman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NA Posts: 1,225 Thanked: 94 Times	Whicked wheels, Yes under serial # there will be Year along the lines of 2000-2001 and then further down the date of acceptance e.g. 22 March 2001 and then below that year of entry into service 2001. The years are usually printed on the plate in black and the date (e.g. 22 March) is stamped into the plate. What plans you got for the new 550 ? Last edited by bigman : 18th April 2009 at 02:16.
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18th April 2009, 13:16	#90
Brutus BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 376 Thanked: 69 Times	Thats good info guys. I don't know nutz about the 540-550 on this behalf, but tell me something guys, when did the military jeeps start having those engine oil coolers?
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