REVOLO – Ready To Fit Hybrid Technology

sreedotk · 7th June 2010, 15:37

Bharat Forge Ltd. & KPIT Cummins have announced a joint venture 4th June 2010, at Delhi for providing ready to deploy Hybrid technology solution to be fitted in Indian automobiles. The system is known as REVOLO – Revolutionary Solution for converting any car from 800 CC to 3000 CC into a parallel hybrid without tampering with the transmission of the car.

Linky : KPIT Cummins & Bharat Forge Launch REVOLO Hybrid Car Kit

n.devdath · 7th June 2010, 16:23

Wow, this is great news. Moreover being developed by well known companies only means that it would have been sufficiently tested and the ARAI certification means that it is homologated as well.

Glued to this thread for more info.

GTO · 8th June 2010, 13:21

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Fuel Efficiency Improvements of over 40 % as tested by ARAI

ARAI tested! This definitely adds some credibility to the claims. However, if ARAI says 40%, that's in ideal conditions.

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The solution is a Full Parallel Plug-in Hybrid, which means that the engine and motor will always run simultaneously and give the required boost and fuel efficiency. Plug-in means that you can connect it to the normal electrical power supply at home and charge the batteries. This means a significant reduction in running cost because the batteries are not charged by burning petrol or diesel.

The single largest restrictor! Plug-in hybrid? Not everyone has a power socket available at their parking spot. I guess this is a very basic hybrid implementation, compared to the Prius (and other cars) that charge "on the go".

On first impression, it looks promising enough. Concerned about the battery weight though. 140 kilos is effectively increasing the weight of a Maruti 800 by 20%. The Prius' battery, on the other hand, weighs like 50 kilos!

Whats the exact pricing like?

dadu · 8th June 2010, 14:51

Good innovation, will improve over time.

sreedotk · 8th June 2010, 15:50

Price announced in the same link was The Price of REVOLO will be between Rs. 65,000 and Rs. 1,50,000 for various car segments.

Need to wait until end of the year if some manufacturers get hooked on it.

If for eg it increased the cost by 65,000 for an Alto, A-star or Wagon R. I am sure there will be some takers if the mileage goes up by 3- 4 kms per litre.

AbhiJ · 8th June 2010, 15:57

Fantastic concept...

140 kg batteries in your average car = No boot.

nvdisdesi · 8th June 2010, 16:52

I am seriosly doubting that article...come on guys!!! we can't believe everything we are reading

sreedotk · 8th June 2010, 17:38

Here are a few More links in case it helps

http://www.kpitcummins.com/downloads...10%20Final.pdf

http://www.bharatforge.com/Press%20R...0%20Sarita.pdf

Both the links actually show the same Press release. Since there was a doubt on the article i am linking press releases from the protagonists.

Dr.Abhi · 8th June 2010, 17:46

How can they use regenerative braking without replacing stock brakes with hub motors? Seems too good to be true, otherwise impressive and should be the innovation of the decade!

sreedotk · 8th June 2010, 19:10

I think in the present model it is a plugin Hybrid(i.e charge the battery and it helps in running of the car; battery down run on petrol). It would depend on the end user Carmaker to incorporate the regenerative system.

I am just Speculating since i did not read anything on the regeneration part

dhall_gagan · 9th June 2010, 12:47

Great technological induction into aftermarket car upgrades and surely quite a fascinating one.

As far their plans for getting them fitted in the cars before they come on roads, if it goes well, it sure will see a surge in hybrid technology cars.

You will see another variant attached to every car available in India like:

Marurti: HXi
Hyundai: HLS
GM: HTZ and so on

Rehaan · 9th June 2010, 13:37

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Originally Posted by nvdisdesi

I am seriosly doubting that article...come on guys!!! we can't believe everything we are reading

Whats the part that you are finding hard to swallow?

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Originally Posted by Dr.Abhi

How can they use regenerative braking without replacing stock brakes with hub motors? Seems too good to be true, otherwise impressive and should be the innovation of the decade!

Seems like they might be using the crank-attached motor to regenerate power during engine braking ? (This is my guess, haven't researched it much).

Also it could be something like THIS

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PS - Does anyone have specs on the electric motors being used in these kits?

dhanushs · 9th June 2010, 14:01

In my place the aftermarket LPG kits were an instant hit for cars like 800,alto,santro, wagon R, matiz, esteem, baleno, swift etc..

Even though the LPG kits were highly unreliable, reduced pick up/power considerably and were priced at 25,000 (10-15% of an 800's on road price) the ONLY factor that made them sell like hot cakes was the improved cost efficiency.

As long as this hybrid technology does what it claims - practically, I guess people, atleast in my place, would definitely run for it, however crude/unreliable the technology is.

but then, I hope this works out well as it is one of the best things we could implement immediately/practically in INDIA to save oil.

witwiky · 9th June 2010, 15:11

- KPIT Cummins has filed 11 patents for Revolo.

- It can be fitted onto any engine between 800 CC to 3000 CC including cars, trucks - diesel and petrol vehicles.

- The batteries used in the solution can be charged from a standard external electricity source such as a domestic power outlet.

- This is a Parallel hybrid solution which means the motor and engine work simultaneously at all times. At no point in time will the vehicle work like an
electric vehicle only and hence will continue to operate as a conventional fuel vehicle if the batteries are fully discharged.

- The batteries will be recharged through opportunity based regeneration and regenerative braking thereby enhancing the range per charge.

- The solution also has in-built intelligence which recognizes driving patterns and self adjusts to provide optimum efficiency.

fabiarider · 10th June 2010, 14:18

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Originally Posted by sreedotk

Bharat Forge Ltd. & KPIT Cummins have announced a joint venture 4th June 2010, at Delhi for providing ready to deploy Hybrid technology solution to be fitted in Indian automobiles. The system is known as REVOLO – Revolutionary Solution for converting any car from 800 CC to 3000 CC into a parallel hybrid without tampering with the transmission of the car.

Linky : KPIT Cummins & Bharat Forge Launch REVOLO Hybrid Car Kit

Amazing product. If it works as claimed, this would turn out to be a revolutionary product in world automotive scene with a "Made in India" badge.

7th June 2010, 15:37	#1
sreedotk BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 248 Thanked: 90 Times	REVOLO – Ready To Fit Hybrid Technology Bharat Forge Ltd. & KPIT Cummins have announced a joint venture 4th June 2010, at Delhi for providing ready to deploy Hybrid technology solution to be fitted in Indian automobiles. The system is known as REVOLO – Revolutionary Solution for converting any car from 800 CC to 3000 CC into a parallel hybrid without tampering with the transmission of the car. Linky : KPIT Cummins & Bharat Forge Launch REVOLO Hybrid Car Kit
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n.devdath BANNED Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,287 Thanked: 2,813 Times	Wow, this is great news. Moreover being developed by well known companies only means that it would have been sufficiently tested and the ARAI certification means that it is homologated as well. Glued to this thread for more info.
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dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 463 Times View My Garage	Good innovation, will improve over time.
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8th June 2010, 15:50	#5
sreedotk BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 248 Thanked: 90 Times	Price announced in the same link was The Price of REVOLO will be between Rs. 65,000 and Rs. 1,50,000 for various car segments. Need to wait until end of the year if some manufacturers get hooked on it. If for eg it increased the cost by 65,000 for an Alto, A-star or Wagon R. I am sure there will be some takers if the mileage goes up by 3- 4 kms per litre.
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AbhiJ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kolkata Posts: 1,483 Thanked: 1,221 Times	Fantastic concept... 140 kg batteries in your average car = No boot.
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8th June 2010, 16:52	#7
nvdisdesi Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 19 Thanked: Once	I am seriosly doubting that article...come on guys!!! we can't believe everything we are reading
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8th June 2010, 17:38	#8
sreedotk BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 248 Thanked: 90 Times	Here are a few More links in case it helps http://www.kpitcummins.com/downloads...10%20Final.pdf http://www.bharatforge.com/Press%20R...0%20Sarita.pdf Both the links actually show the same Press release. Since there was a doubt on the article i am linking press releases from the protagonists.
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8th June 2010, 17:46	#9
Dr.Abhi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bathinda, Pb Posts: 328 Thanked: 576 Times View My Garage	How can they use regenerative braking without replacing stock brakes with hub motors? Seems too good to be true, otherwise impressive and should be the innovation of the decade!
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8th June 2010, 19:10	#10
sreedotk BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 248 Thanked: 90 Times	I think in the present model it is a plugin Hybrid(i.e charge the battery and it helps in running of the car; battery down run on petrol). It would depend on the end user Carmaker to incorporate the regenerative system. I am just Speculating since i did not read anything on the regeneration part
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9th June 2010, 12:47	#11
dhall_gagan BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 166 Thanked: 14 Times View My Garage	Great technological induction into aftermarket car upgrades and surely quite a fascinating one. As far their plans for getting them fitted in the cars before they come on roads, if it goes well, it sure will see a surge in hybrid technology cars. You will see another variant attached to every car available in India like: Marurti: HXi Hyundai: HLS GM: HTZ and so on
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9th June 2010, 14:01	#13
dhanushs Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,386 Thanked: 10,817 Times	In my place the aftermarket LPG kits were an instant hit for cars like 800,alto,santro, wagon R, matiz, esteem, baleno, swift etc.. Even though the LPG kits were highly unreliable, reduced pick up/power considerably and were priced at 25,000 (10-15% of an 800's on road price) the ONLY factor that made them sell like hot cakes was the improved cost efficiency. As long as this hybrid technology does what it claims - practically, I guess people, atleast in my place, would definitely run for it, however crude/unreliable the technology is. but then, I hope this works out well as it is one of the best things we could implement immediately/practically in INDIA to save oil.
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9th June 2010, 15:11	#14
witwiky BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Bombay Posts: 80 Thanked: 321 Times	KPIT & Bharat Forge indeed to develop a hybrid solution - Revolo - KPIT Cummins has filed 11 patents for Revolo. - It can be fitted onto any engine between 800 CC to 3000 CC including cars, trucks - diesel and petrol vehicles. - The batteries used in the solution can be charged from a standard external electricity source such as a domestic power outlet. - This is a Parallel hybrid solution which means the motor and engine work simultaneously at all times. At no point in time will the vehicle work like an electric vehicle only and hence will continue to operate as a conventional fuel vehicle if the batteries are fully discharged. - The batteries will be recharged through opportunity based regeneration and regenerative braking thereby enhancing the range per charge. - The solution also has in-built intelligence which recognizes driving patterns and self adjusts to provide optimum efficiency.
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