This is probably the longest ownership thread, in terms of miles logged, on this forum and the first for an Esteem Diesel.
I would be sharing the ownership experience of our extremely trustworthy workhorse: Esteem Diesel. Yes you heard it right, an Esteem
Diesel. No it’s not a retro fitted diesel engine on an Esteem. It’s one of the few Esteems that Maruti sold with the 1.5 TUD5 Peugeot Engine.
Purchased in May’03 and almost 80% driven by my father, it’s odometer stands on this day at 2,99,880. Just 120 km short of 300,000 km. FYI, Esteem came with a 5 digit odometer, so it will roll over for the third time now.
What I like- Extremely reliable vehicle and a robust engine. Zero breakdowns all through. Still on original engine and suspensions
- Very fuel efficient …consistently
- Low running and maintenance costs
- Basically a high quality product, I would say. Even the paint is original
- Availability of parts (except engine parts) and ease of maintenance
Weaknesses- Underpowered engine. Especially in comparison to today’s diesel engines
- Engine noise is noticeable even after warm up
- Maruti A.S.S. technical knowhow for the 1.5 TUD5 Engine
- AC is not very effective. could’ve been better
- Cabin noises associated with Maruti
About Esteem Diesel
This was the period when the C/lower C segment was dominated by Maruti. Due to lack of competition their recycled aged models were still successful. That was the era of rising dominance of diesels in this segment. The main diesels in this segments were Ford Ikon, Fiat Siena, Tata Indigo and Hyundai Accent (initially came with the same engine as on the Esteem Di). Maruti must’ve thought that the most convenient way of increasing market share without much effort was to put in the motor used on the Zens in 1998 onto the Esteem. High powered diesels were not a feature for this segment until Hyundai broke the code with its Accent Crdi.
It is the same Esteem fitted with a Peugeot diesel engine by Maruti. Esteem was towards the end of its life and maruti was trying to extract maximum out of it and, as always, wasn’t willing to phase it out.
Diesel Esteems were rare. The attendant at the fuel station is always reluctant to put in diesel even after you shout at him,
haan haan D-I-E-S-E-L !!! Why an Esteem diesel?
In 2003, already having two M800s, we were looking for a sedan to replace one of those. The intention was to keep it for a longer duration and preferably it had to be a diesel. Esteem was chosen over Ikon, Siena, Indigo and even over Accent Crdi because of the Maruti badge (I would have definitely gone for Accent Crdi instead). There was also no test drive.
How can a car last 3 Lakh km on Indian roads and still go strong?
There are three main reasons to this:
- The car has run 70% of its life on NH8: We have our factory at Umbergaon in Gujarat (160km from Bombay). Dad does singe day return trips 2-3 times a week on NH-8. The roads are generally good unless during 4 months of monsoon.
- The car was mostly driven by my father: He is a very well experienced mechanical engineer and understands the machine extremely well. He, like me, loves to drive. He drives with a light foot and is a very patient driver. Never have I seen him strain the engine and that’s how he enjoys it. He knows his NH-8 route in and out and maintains a constant 85km/h in 5th which, according to him, requires minimum braking and lesser gear changes.
- Scheduled servicing: The car was always serviced on time. Sometimes availability of even standard parts like fuel filter can be a problem for the diesel engine and so he planned his services well. Parts were always changed in time and never was an oil service interval exceeded.
Odometer standing at 299880 km Exteriors and Interiors:
Even in 2003, Maruti was selling esteems last face lifted in 1998. There was just one facelift that followed, after which the Esteem was phased out. From the outside, it looks exactly like the regular petrol Esteem except for the Di and 1.5D badges at the rear and on the sides respectively. The ‘Di’ trim was the highest trim offered on diesel powered Esteems (D being the other option). It was equivalent of the ‘Lxi’ trim which were offered on petrol Esteems then (different to the current trim levels of maruti). Body colored bumpers were standard. But door handles and ORVM were black.
From the inside, once again it’s exactly similar to its petrol sibling, the only difference being the glow plug indicator light on the instrument cluster. Power Windows were available on the front and rear had wind down function. The seating is overall low; legroom at the front is good but the a bit cramped at the rear.
Exterior pics. Looks exactly like any other Esteem. The difference: 1.5D badge on the side. Notice the Di badge at the rear Glowplug sign. The only indication inside of a diesel engine. Engine and Transmission:
Under the hood is a Peugeot TUD5 Engine. The specifications are: 1527cc; 57PS@5000rpm; 96Nm@2500rpm. It’s a normally aspirated IDI engine mated to a 5 speed gear box (probably the same one as on the petrol Esteem). Doesn’t sound very interesting? Well as an enthusiast (which you would be if you are a bhpian), you might not find it exciting. But, the engine has not been designed for outright performance; rather it’s an engine for cruising and would be the choice of Mr. Practical (and also Mr. Patient). It’s a pure mile muncher. On a highway stretch it can easily do more than 700km with AC on its 35 liter tank. It’s good to do long distances on the highway rather than some spirited driving
The engine bay is cramped, making working on the engine quite a task. The Front suspension has been modified to take the higher weight and vibrations. To control the noise and vibration, generous amounts of sound deadening material has been used in the engine bay and rubber mounts are used for the engine. Despite this, the engine is noisy at start up and even after warmup the clatter is quite noticeable.
Even though it’s loud, the engine is refined. It behaves more like a petrol motor and feels quite comfortable when being revved. Useful power and torque comes after 2000 rpm. Strong acceleration comes above 3000 rpm and the thrust continues all the way upto 5000 rpm. The engine feels refined almost all though the operation range. Once you know the engine behavior you can extract more from it than you would have initially expected to.
The build quality and robustness of the engine is evident. It’s done almost 300,000km without being worked upon once. The engine has been well taken care of and always serviced before time. Even today, the engine is going strong without any felt loss in compression.
Engine Bay with the 1.5 TUD5 Peugeot Engine. Notice the lack of working space. Sound deadening material all around to control noise. Performance and Fuel Efficiency:
As you would have made out from the engine specifications, the engine is underpowered for this car. 0-100 comes in 19 seconds. Power delivery is linear and predictable. Respectable torque and power comes only at higher revolutions. In-gear acceleration is not very inspiring and requires frequent downshifting. To add to the woes, AC saps generous amounts of the sparingly available power. Overtaking requires planning and city driving needs a bit of working through the gears to keep pace with the traffic. Despite this, if you keep the engine on the boil and work smartly through the gears, you can progress quicker than you would’ve initially expected to.
The car behaves well if not pushed around too much. In the city and at low speeds, the light steering is very easy to use and maneuver around. Under very hard driving, the monocoque and its suspension can’t cope up and are not very confidence inspiring.
Fuel Efficiency is the strength of this car. All figures are with AC and measured tankfull to tankfull:
- 100% Mumbai start and stop traffic: 16 kmpl
- 60% Highway (@80-90km/h) + 40% Mumbai traffic: 23 kmpl
- 60% Highway (Hard Driving) + 40% Mumbai traffic: 19 kmpl (by your’s truly)
- 80% Highway (@80-90km/h) + 20% Mumbai traffic: Consistently 25.5 kmpl. Best 27 kmpl
- 100% Highway (@80-90km/h): never measured
Clearly, the engine is designed to cruise. Cruising in 5th at 85kmh, the rpm needle is around the 2250 mark. If it is maintained at this speed, maximum fuel efficiency is extracted from the car. On NH8, where the car has clocked most of its miles, this is the ideal speed and variations in speed are minimum.
Major work done:- AC Condenser replaced twice
- Clutch chanded once
- No other major problem. Even the Engine and Suspension are untouched.
Problems/Issues:
The car has been working superbly fine. No major issues. However, the minor issues were:
- During the early days of ownership, AC Fuse used to blow off very often. The solution, use 40A instead of 30A. Worked absolutely fine
- AC bracket had a design fault, causing the PS/AC belt to get ripped off. The bracket and belt was replaced multiple times by Maruti, finally finding the right one that works fine, until now
- Power Windows are slower than average and take all the time in the world to move
- Availability of diesel engine related parts is a problem. We need to plan services in advance and also stock Oil/Fuel Filters. Even availability of a mechanic to fix the diesel related parts is a problem
- The car is less than 8 years old, but it has done a good amount of running. Due to this parts that seldom fail in a life time are beginning to fail/wear. The key is worn out enough to be pulled out
- There is now a bit of play in the steering. It does not disturb too much but it is noticeable.
An incident worth mentioning:
The car was purchased from a very reputed Maruti dealer at Thane and was delivered at our office. At the time of delivery, the salesperson brought along a bill of Rs. 1200 for wheel covers which he claimed was an extra accessory. My dad was aware that wheel covers are standard on the ‘Di’ model. After attempting to insist, he had to finally agree and let go. Hang on, if you guys think this is bad enough, read on.
A few years later, the car lost two wheel covers during the 26/7 flooding in Mumbai. On its next service at Sai Service, we enquired if they can sell us just two wheel covers instead of the whole set. That’s when the service engineer told us that the wheel covers the car had were not OE covers but cheap aftermarket ones. Yes, you guessed it right, the dealer who sold us the car had changed OE wheel covers with some cheap aftermarket ones and they actually also brought a bill along. Man, my blood is boiling as I’m writing this.
Some interesting facts:- The car completed 2 Lakh km in 4.5 years. But it has taken 3 years for the last 1 Lakh km. It’s due to other cars sharing the miles. At its peak usage, it used to clock 5000km per month
- After 2.70 lakh km, we changed over from Sai Service to Automotive for service. Service Advisors at Automotive wouldn’t believe us and putdown the car mileage in their records at 70,000km
- Regular and Extended Warranty were finished well before time due quick mileage and were never used
- Front brake pads replaced twice; rear brake shoes changed once; Clutch replaced only once.
- 3 Lakh kms are good to circle the globe 7.5 times!!. That’s one circle per year
- Considering an overall FE of 18km/L, the car has consumed 16,666 Litres of Diesel. Factoring for diesel price increase to assume an average diesel cost of 38Rs/L, the car has consumed Diesel worth Rs 6.33 Lakhs. That’s 2.11 Rs/km fuel cost
- Assuming an overall average speed of 40km/hr, to do 3 Lakh kms, the engine has to run 7500 hours. That’s 312days non-stop!!
The Indian Automobile Market - Then and Now:- Hyundai used the same Peugeot engine on its Accent before it came up with the Crdi unit for it. Until the launch of Accent Crdi, diesels with Common-Rail were not available in this segment. If you think 0-100 in 19seconds was slow for the diesel Esteem, wait till you hear this: Its direct competitor Ford Ikon 1.8D took 21seconds for this, 21 seconds!!!!. Common-Rail has changed the game. Diesels are now faster, cleaner and fuel efficient.
- Ignorance to change and replace models was the trend in the market, with Maruti leading the way (still??). Esteem hardly changed during its long life cycle. Car manufacturers are now proactive and fresher models and facelifts come sooner
- Equipment levels and their quality has certainly improved. Looking back now, it seems to be an overpriced car. See what 6.50 lakh can buy you today!!
Ownership Summary:
Most of us here service our cars religiously, but another very important factor that prolongs engine and car life is the way one drives. We all know not straining the engine is gonna make the engine last longer, but we often knowingly ignore this. Not only does it prolong the life of the car, but it also makes is cheaper to run. This car is live example of this theory. We all have something to learn out of this. I am sure it would’nt have gone this far if it were in my hands
Even today, after 7.5 years and 2,99,880 km, it is still very economical to run and maintain. It has been extremely reliable over these years and has never has it let us down. Even if I push her around, she will take it without complaint.
We are not sure how long we intend to keep her. But this has been a no non-sense car. It brought us the efficiency of diesel with the reliability of the Esteem. It has done the job well for it and is still going strong….Great Going!!