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Originally Posted by gandalf I Was talking about the Diesel corolla. I guess this point was for the Petrol |
This was for diesel, Altis has 6 speed transmission in diesel and in 6th gear at 3000 or 3500 rpm Altis will be at 140-150 and at this speed, Engine doesn't feel strained, I am telling you because i have been in one.
The refinement levels of Altis are such, that even if you redline it, There is hardly any Vibration or clatter inside the cabin.
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Originally Posted by gandalf For the rest ot the points, I would rather go for the XUV. If interior fit and finish is so important to me I would look at the Innova. |
Xuv and Innova is Suv/Muv, No matter how much VFM they are, A sedan like Altis/Civic etc will be more fun to drive and will offer me more comfort and better ride quality then a Innova or a XUV, Plus you won't be happy in a Innova at 120, there's alot of diesel clatter inside the cabin at those speeds, Whereas on the other hand in a Sedan like Civic/Corolla, You won't feel the speed even.
If i don't need that extra 2 seats in Innova/Xuv, I won't look into them, A sedan will be better over a same segment Suv/Muv anyday.
They drive better, They are more comfortable, Better ride quality, Better efficiency, Better High speed manners, etc.
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Originally Posted by gandalf The point I was trying to make is that based on whatever my requirements are a D1 segment sedan is never the best option (there are certain exceptions like the Base Varient Skoda laura TSI is an exception here for a petrolhead who wants a gem of an engine) |
I don't agree
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here, Say, I am in the market with the budget of 19L and Looking for a sedan to be
driven in, I will buy a Altis diesel.
So, If i am in the market for a 19L sedan, I won't be interested in Sunny at all, No matter i save 9L or what. It's just that, Altis will be comfortable over a Sunny, Will offer me better luxury and good ride quality.
If i am looking for self driven option in 19L segment, I will buy a Cruze just for the monster engine under the hood.
Will i look at Xuv or a Vento in this case, Answer will be same NO.
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Originally Posted by gandalf If I have a budget of say 19 lakhs and Look at a Jetta. Wouldnt I test drive a Pessant for 22 Lakhs. even if they both are very similar wouldnt I see if i could stretch and go for the Pessant?
The Laura Top end is 1 lakh cheaper than the superb. Wouldnt it be a better VFM to go for the Suberb rather than the Laura? |
You said it, If i am looking at a Verna top end diesel model at 13L, I will see If i COULD stretch and buy a Cruze at 16L, If i COULD.
I will go ahead and will buy the Cruze over a Vento.
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Originally Posted by gandalf The corolla Diesel Costs me 15 lakhs. Would I not Rather go for the XUV or the Innova for the same price if i am looking for space inside? Would I actually spend 5 Lakhs for a bit of colour and a slightly wider seat when i get a similar performance and back seat comfort with the Sunny? |
Altis will be more comfortable over sunny any given day, The rear seat of sunny lacks Under thigh support, Whereas Altis rear side, Offer superb comfort, that too in luxury.
If i am looking at Altis/Cruze, I won't look in a Innova/XUV, Unless and Until, I am looking for a 7 seater car, Or i need a car, In which i will spend most of my time, In a place, Where road doesn't exist.
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Originally Posted by gandalf The average guy who can afford to buy a D1 Sedan would be Internet Savvy and knows what the market has to offer. If he is looking for snob value, better interiors, better build quality..........SNIP...........My point here is the average XUV owner is a person who can afford a D1 segment vehicle and he did look at the VFM option when he took the decision of buying an XUV |
If an average guy is WILLING to spend 17-18L for a car, I don't think he will go ahead and Will buy a Vento instead of a Laura ( just giving example )
My point- Still remains the same, If i COULD afford to buy a D segment car, I won't look at C segment.
D segment will be better over a C segment anyday, Whether it is Interiors/Build Quality/Snob Value etc.
If sunny offers me better space at back, What it lacks, is Interior quality and Luxury quotient, In which Altis excels and scores over Sunny.
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