New 4X4 project

jyobeb · 15th March 2011, 10:15

I plan to start a new project based on Tata Safari underpinnings, a 56 Willys station Wagon and a Nissan 4.2L engine, soon!!
I need help finding an old model/ total loss safari 4WD vehicle. Any help would be appreciated.

Frankenstein · 15th March 2011, 15:53

HI Jyobeb, interesting project.

Why not use the Willys station wagon chassis itself?

Is this project going to be used for offroad or general touring + light offroad?

I will surely let you know if there is a vehicle in my sight.

jyobeb · 16th March 2011, 01:02

I have absolutely no faith that the 56 chassis can handle the torque of the 4.2l engine and hence my search for a better base!

Another option is a Pajero 2.8 chassis and underpinnings.!!!

Diesel9999 · 16th March 2011, 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyobeb

I plan to start a new project based on Tata Safari underpinnings, a 56 Willys station Wagon and a Nissan 4.2L engine, soon!!
I need help finding an old model/ total loss safari 4WD vehicle. Any help would be appreciated.

Very interesting project. Just curious, what made you chose the Safari underpinnings?

And do you have to get any permission from the RTO etc for the 'new vehicle' you will be creating?

jyobeb · 16th March 2011, 09:37

Ask no questions, get no lies!!!

For the first question, thw Safari chassis is very strong and the dynamics are ok. Secondly spares are available too.

jeepster · 16th March 2011, 09:57

why not a scorpio chassis for base?

they are available widely.

jyobeb · 16th March 2011, 10:03

Scorpio is available but not in 4wd. That would be my first choice.

jyobeb · 11th April 2011, 23:29

And the journey begins!

svsantosh · 12th April 2011, 07:39

Thats a pretty beaten up safari. How much did you pay for it. I saw a slightly better one in my town go for 1.5L a few months ago.

jyobeb · 12th April 2011, 09:33

It's actually not too bad. It's been neglected rather than abused. I picked up the underpinnings for about 50k.

AVR · 12th April 2011, 11:26

This is something I am really looking forward to. Couple of things though:

1) I remember some discussion about Tata guys not wanting to use this chassis for a 200 bhp engine that they were working on primarily because the dynamics of the chassis and its handling would deteriorate significantly. 2) Am also assuming that they worked a bit on the chassis when they moved from TCIC (90/190) to Dicor (115+/320+) to handle the additional power and torque. Do you think you'll need to look up a Dicor to check for any enhancements?
3) What are the specs on the Nissan 4.2L?

Looking forward to updates!

Cheers,
Adi

jeepster · 12th April 2011, 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyobeb

I picked up the underpinnings for about 50k.

whats included in above amount?
chassis? engine+GB+TC? axles?

IMO the pick up looks better than station Wagon.

some pictures from my HDD.

jyobeb · 13th April 2011, 01:24

The body and everything inside, the engine and gearbox are not part of the price. The pick up is actually a beauty but I don't

know about screwing up the Willys body just for that!!!

madhkris · 13th April 2011, 06:29

Hi Jyobeb,
All the best for the restoration.
Is the Safari you have procured a 4 WD? What is the Engine, GB, TC(if present) condition?

slalom · 13th April 2011, 07:47

Hi Jyobeb !
Looks like a great endeavor , hope it turns out to be a phenomenal machine .
All the best !

15th March 2011, 10:15	#1
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	New 4X4 project I plan to start a new project based on Tata Safari underpinnings, a 56 Willys station Wagon and a Nissan 4.2L engine, soon!! I need help finding an old model/ total loss safari 4WD vehicle. Any help would be appreciated.
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Frankenstein BHPian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bangalore/hyderabad Posts: 385 Thanked: 352 Times	Re: New 4X4 project HI Jyobeb, interesting project. Why not use the Willys station wagon chassis itself? Is this project going to be used for offroad or general touring + light offroad? I will surely let you know if there is a vehicle in my sight.
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jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project I have absolutely no faith that the 56 chassis can handle the torque of the 4.2l engine and hence my search for a better base! Another option is a Pajero 2.8 chassis and underpinnings.!!!
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jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project Ask no questions, get no lies!!! For the first question, thw Safari chassis is very strong and the dynamics are ok. Secondly spares are available too. Last edited by jyobeb : 16th March 2011 at 09:38.
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jeepster Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: MH24 aka LATUR Posts: 1,718 Thanked: 2,069 Times View My Garage	Re: New 4X4 project why not a scorpio chassis for base? they are available widely.
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jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project Scorpio is available but not in 4wd. That would be my first choice.
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jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project And the journey begins! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by jyobeb : 11th April 2011 at 23:31.
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svsantosh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubai Posts: 4,264 Thanked: 7,950 Times View My Garage	Re: New 4X4 project Thats a pretty beaten up safari. How much did you pay for it. I saw a slightly better one in my town go for 1.5L a few months ago.
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12th April 2011, 09:33	#10
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project It's actually not too bad. It's been neglected rather than abused. I picked up the underpinnings for about 50k.
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12th April 2011, 11:26	#11
AVR BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 980 Thanked: 871 Times View My Garage	Re: New 4X4 project This is something I am really looking forward to. Couple of things though: 1) I remember some discussion about Tata guys not wanting to use this chassis for a 200 bhp engine that they were working on primarily because the dynamics of the chassis and its handling would deteriorate significantly. 2) Am also assuming that they worked a bit on the chassis when they moved from TCIC (90/190) to Dicor (115+/320+) to handle the additional power and torque. Do you think you'll need to look up a Dicor to check for any enhancements? 3) What are the specs on the Nissan 4.2L? Looking forward to updates! Cheers, Adi
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13th April 2011, 01:24	#13
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project The body and everything inside, the engine and gearbox are not part of the price. The pick up is actually a beauty but I don't know about screwing up the Willys body just for that!!!
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13th April 2011, 06:29	#14
madhkris BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bengalur Posts: 292 Thanked: 83 Times View My Garage	Re: New 4X4 project Hi Jyobeb, All the best for the restoration. Is the Safari you have procured a 4 WD? What is the Engine, GB, TC(if present) condition?
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slalom BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: " Deep " in God's Own Country !! Posts: 200 Thanked: 138 Times	Re: New 4X4 project Hi Jyobeb ! Looks like a great endeavor , hope it turns out to be a phenomenal machine . All the best !
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